My little dog has very good aim. She manages to step on the nethers just about every time she hops on my lap. Oph.sikacz wrote: Wed Feb 13, 2019 1:11 pm Dog size is a bit like a caliber debate. In the end it comes down to shot placement.
featureless wrote: Wed Feb 13, 2019 1:14 pmMy little dog has very good aim. She manages to step on the nethers just about every time she hops on my lap. Oph.sikacz wrote: Wed Feb 13, 2019 1:11 pm Dog size is a bit like a caliber debate. In the end it comes down to shot placement.
Our stinkin' rotten Garfield-type orange cat is good at that, too, especially when I'm asleep.featureless wrote: Wed Feb 13, 2019 1:14 pmMy little dog has very good aim. She manages to step on the nethers just about every time she hops on my lap. Oph.sikacz wrote: Wed Feb 13, 2019 1:11 pm Dog size is a bit like a caliber debate. In the end it comes down to shot placement.
Mine don’t misstep. It’s on purpose.
Tervs are beautiful dogs.YankeeTarheel wrote: Wed Feb 13, 2019 12:52 pmPerfect way to describe the ideal little dog I can deal with: A big dog in a little dog's body. Despite a preference from medium to large dogs, I like any friendly, nice dog of any size. It's just that most little dogs...aren't!featureless wrote: Wed Feb 13, 2019 11:05 amThat's pretty much how I felt about small dogs. Then I ended up with one. Promised the kid for years she'd be able to have a dog when she turned 10. While pound scrounging, we were looking for a 20-40 pound range. Then we stumbled across all 11 pounds of our big dog in a little dog's body. She's the sweetest dog I've ever known. Not sure what mix she is, but looks to have some mini pin in her (coloring for sure) but her feet are definitely terrier. Here's our fake dog in front of her fake fire with our departed kitty.YankeeTarheel wrote: Wed Feb 13, 2019 9:57 am I always figure that a dog you have to put on a table to be judged is hardly a real dog at all.
And there's no reason a 60 or 80 # dog can't be a lapdog (at least part of them).
But if you're going to be a little frou-frou dog, you can at least ACT like a real dog, not a yappy, spoiled, nip-at-everyone, shit-on-the-carpet, little POS.
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Here's our tiny Belgian Tervuren. She was about 9 in this pic but is going to be 13 this spring. Tiny because she's a little below standard size and weight for females. Absolutely LOVES everyone--a real people dog! Not much of a watchdog, which is highly unusual for Tervs, but a real sweetheart.
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Yeah, they are pretty, and so are their fellow breed, the Belgian Sheep Dogs, all black. In Canada, Europe and the UKC, they are considered the same breed. We've had 2 BSDs and they are about the same. They have TWO big drawbacks Tervs don't:K9s wrote: Wed Feb 13, 2019 5:59 pmTervs are beautiful dogs.YankeeTarheel wrote: Wed Feb 13, 2019 12:52 pmPerfect way to describe the ideal little dog I can deal with: A big dog in a little dog's body. Despite a preference from medium to large dogs, I like any friendly, nice dog of any size. It's just that most little dogs...aren't!featureless wrote: Wed Feb 13, 2019 11:05 amThat's pretty much how I felt about small dogs. Then I ended up with one. Promised the kid for years she'd be able to have a dog when she turned 10. While pound scrounging, we were looking for a 20-40 pound range. Then we stumbled across all 11 pounds of our big dog in a little dog's body. She's the sweetest dog I've ever known. Not sure what mix she is, but looks to have some mini pin in her (coloring for sure) but her feet are definitely terrier. Here's our fake dog in front of her fake fire with our departed kitty.YankeeTarheel wrote: Wed Feb 13, 2019 9:57 am I always figure that a dog you have to put on a table to be judged is hardly a real dog at all.
And there's no reason a 60 or 80 # dog can't be a lapdog (at least part of them).
But if you're going to be a little frou-frou dog, you can at least ACT like a real dog, not a yappy, spoiled, nip-at-everyone, shit-on-the-carpet, little POS.
20171201_193755.jpg
Here's our tiny Belgian Tervuren. She was about 9 in this pic but is going to be 13 this spring. Tiny because she's a little below standard size and weight for females. Absolutely LOVES everyone--a real people dog! Not much of a watchdog, which is highly unusual for Tervs, but a real sweetheart.
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They do, as do Tervs. Same coat, different color. In the summer, they shed most of the undercoat to leave mainly the longer hairs. In the winter, they grow a heavier undercoat that's really so thick they can sleep in the snow like huskies. Our little terv has no problem sleeping outside when it's below freezing. When Belgians shed, which is 2x a year, there's a TSUNAMI of fur--everywhere! The rest of the time they don't shed. Also, intact females, when they breed, "blow their coats" and look almost like Malinois (the short-hair variety.)K9s wrote: Wed Feb 13, 2019 6:57 pm I thought BSDs had double coats that protect them from both heat and cold?
Your girl is a beauty. My boys both seem impervious to cold and like to roll and play in the snow. It was fun watching them this winter after the polar vortex hit. They are also both great guard dogs. Nothing can approach our house without a response from them. Henri has a specific bark for "strangers" that sounds like something from the bowels of hell. Louis tries, but half the time his bark sounds like he's yodeling. He's still a pup. The cacophony that breaks out from both of them during a pizza delivery is truly something to behold. My own furry alarm system.YankeeTarheel wrote: Wed Feb 13, 2019 7:19 pmThey do, as do Tervs. Same coat, different color. In the summer, they shed most of the undercoat to leave mainly the longer hairs. In the winter, they grow a heavier undercoat that's really so thick they can sleep in the snow like huskies. Our little terv has no problem sleeping outside when it's below freezing. When Belgians shed, which is 2x a year, there's a TSUNAMI of fur--everywhere! The rest of the time they don't shed. Also, intact females, when they breed, "blow their coats" and look almost like Malinois (the short-hair variety.)K9s wrote: Wed Feb 13, 2019 6:57 pm I thought BSDs had double coats that protect them from both heat and cold?
But summers in Northern Europe don't usually get hot the way it does here in NJ. We frequently get triple digits in our back yard in the sun in late May, and it was clearly tougher on the BSDs than the Terv--basic physics.
You got a pair of handsome boys there! Yeah, they LOVE the cold (at least most of them do--snow as well). Belgians, in every variety, are an addiction. You'll either love them or they'll drive you bat-shit crazy...sometimes both. They are smart, funny, protective, and..."Always in motion when not under command"! You know they like you when you are subject to "the Belgian lean". Our first BSD had a bark that sounded like a yodelling rusty hinge, but other have had barks that were everything from deep like a rottweiler to high like a little, little dog. Our girl, when my wife was commuting, if she was outside when she came home, sounded like she was being tortured and in agony!(she was fine, just excited). Otherwise, when she wants to come in, it's a normal barkjoemac wrote: Wed Feb 13, 2019 7:56 pmYour girl is a beauty. My boys both seem impervious to cold and like to roll and play in the snow. It was fun watching them this winter after the polar vortex hit. They are also both great guard dogs. Nothing can approach our house without a response from them. Henri has a specific bark for "strangers" that sounds like something from the bowels of hell. Louis tries, but half the time his bark sounds like he's yodeling. He's still a pup. The cacophony that breaks out from both of them during a pizza delivery is truly something to behold. My own furry alarm system.YankeeTarheel wrote: Wed Feb 13, 2019 7:19 pmThey do, as do Tervs. Same coat, different color. In the summer, they shed most of the undercoat to leave mainly the longer hairs. In the winter, they grow a heavier undercoat that's really so thick they can sleep in the snow like huskies. Our little terv has no problem sleeping outside when it's below freezing. When Belgians shed, which is 2x a year, there's a TSUNAMI of fur--everywhere! The rest of the time they don't shed. Also, intact females, when they breed, "blow their coats" and look almost like Malinois (the short-hair variety.)K9s wrote: Wed Feb 13, 2019 6:57 pm I thought BSDs had double coats that protect them from both heat and cold?
But summers in Northern Europe don't usually get hot the way it does here in NJ. We frequently get triple digits in our back yard in the sun in late May, and it was clearly tougher on the BSDs than the Terv--basic physics.
K9s wrote: Wed Feb 13, 2019 8:32 pm "You'll either love them or they'll drive you bat-shit crazy...sometimes both."
I think "both" describes all pets and children. And siblings.
OK. Maybe just my brothers.YankeeTarheel wrote: Wed Feb 13, 2019 8:58 pmK9s wrote: Wed Feb 13, 2019 8:32 pm "You'll either love them or they'll drive you bat-shit crazy...sometimes both."
I think "both" describes all pets and children. And siblings.
Oh, no! Mine, too!K9s wrote: Wed Feb 13, 2019 9:36 pmOK. Maybe just my brothers.YankeeTarheel wrote: Wed Feb 13, 2019 8:58 pmK9s wrote: Wed Feb 13, 2019 8:32 pm "You'll either love them or they'll drive you bat-shit crazy...sometimes both."
I think "both" describes all pets and children. And siblings.
They definitely have some unique mannerisms. They lean into us. Their noses also sometimes seem like they are made of rubber. When Henri is playing or trying to "herd" the kids, he uses the end of his nose. I call it "nose punching". I've never seen a dog do that before. He also has a variety of different vocalizations: grunts, snorts, etc. When he wants to play, he lowers his front and sneezes. Louis is still growing into all of that, but it's starting.YankeeTarheel wrote: Wed Feb 13, 2019 8:11 pmYou got a pair of handsome boys there! Yeah, they LOVE the cold (at least most of them do--snow as well). Belgians, in every variety, are an addiction. You'll either love them or they'll drive you bat-shit crazy...sometimes both. They are smart, funny, protective, and..."Always in motion when not under command"! You know they like you when you are subject to "the Belgian lean". Our first BSD had a bark that sounded like a yodelling rusty hinge, but other have had barks that were everything from deep like a rottweiler to high like a little, little dog. Our girl, when my wife was commuting, if she was outside when she came home, sounded like she was being tortured and in agony!(she was fine, just excited). Otherwise, when she wants to come in, it's a normal barkjoemac wrote: Wed Feb 13, 2019 7:56 pmYour girl is a beauty. My boys both seem impervious to cold and like to roll and play in the snow. It was fun watching them this winter after the polar vortex hit. They are also both great guard dogs. Nothing can approach our house without a response from them. Henri has a specific bark for "strangers" that sounds like something from the bowels of hell. Louis tries, but half the time his bark sounds like he's yodeling. He's still a pup. The cacophony that breaks out from both of them during a pizza delivery is truly something to behold. My own furry alarm system.YankeeTarheel wrote: Wed Feb 13, 2019 7:19 pmThey do, as do Tervs. Same coat, different color. In the summer, they shed most of the undercoat to leave mainly the longer hairs. In the winter, they grow a heavier undercoat that's really so thick they can sleep in the snow like huskies. Our little terv has no problem sleeping outside when it's below freezing. When Belgians shed, which is 2x a year, there's a TSUNAMI of fur--everywhere! The rest of the time they don't shed. Also, intact females, when they breed, "blow their coats" and look almost like Malinois (the short-hair variety.)K9s wrote: Wed Feb 13, 2019 6:57 pm I thought BSDs had double coats that protect them from both heat and cold?
But summers in Northern Europe don't usually get hot the way it does here in NJ. We frequently get triple digits in our back yard in the sun in late May, and it was clearly tougher on the BSDs than the Terv--basic physics.
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