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TrueTexan wrote: Sun Feb 10, 2019 2:41 pm
Wino wrote: Sun Feb 10, 2019 1:31 pm If you have sinned, guess I'm in total blasphemy !! I wouldn't own a 1911 in any caliber, unless someone gave me one, then I'd probably sell or trade it. Just not a fan and we're not a good fit.
There is always hope for the heretics, that they will one day see the light and become a true believer and become one in the fold of the believers in God's sidearm the 1911. :yahoo:

Remember if God carried a sidearm it would be a m1911A1. :D
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TrueTexan wrote: Sun Feb 10, 2019 2:41 pm
Wino wrote: Sun Feb 10, 2019 1:31 pm If you have sinned, guess I'm in total blasphemy !! I wouldn't own a 1911 in any caliber, unless someone gave me one, then I'd probably sell or trade it. Just not a fan and we're not a good fit.
There is always hope for the heretics, that they will one day see the light and become a true believer and become one in the fold of the believers in God's sidearm the 1911. :yahoo:

Remember if God carried a sidearm it would be a m1911A1. :D
I'm atheist, but if I weren't, my god would carry a Colt .45 revolver, not some metal brick like a 1911. :sarcasm: :mrgreen:
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Wino wrote: Sun Feb 10, 2019 3:07 pm
TrueTexan wrote: Sun Feb 10, 2019 2:41 pm
Wino wrote: Sun Feb 10, 2019 1:31 pm If you have sinned, guess I'm in total blasphemy !! I wouldn't own a 1911 in any caliber, unless someone gave me one, then I'd probably sell or trade it. Just not a fan and we're not a good fit.
There is always hope for the heretics, that they will one day see the light and become a true believer and become one in the fold of the believers in God's sidearm the 1911. :yahoo:

Remember if God carried a sidearm it would be a m1911A1. :D
I'm atheist, but if I weren't, my god would carry a Colt .45 revolver, not some metal brick like a 1911. :sarcasm: :mrgreen:
At least it is a 45 Caliber not one of those silly European 9mm poodle poppers. :D
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Actually a few years ago, I seriously considered carrying a Single Action revolver for personal protection. Even now, if the law said it was a SA or nothing, I would be happy with the SA. That is what I carried for two years in Alaska and never felt under-armed. (But it was a Ruger .44 magnum.) The one time I had to use it in self defense (against a seriously dangerous feral dog), I never noticed that I had to cock it. I fired several rounds about as quickly as I wished.

(For those who want to know why it took more than one round, the first shot was deadly, but did not stop the dog. The problem with dogs is that if you shoot them anywhere other than the brain or heart, the bullets pass through them, leaving deadly holes, but not a quick stop. For those who have never been to Kodiak Island, defending against feral dogs is a real thing. People bring dogs onto the island, they get loose and never come back to humans. There are packs of them; they have zero fear of people, and they love to prowl the "Kodiak Surplus Store" also known as the garbage dump where people go to find spare parts, lumber and anything else.

I bought the new ATI 1911 for a range gun, not a carry gun. IMO, the 1911 has the wrong trade-offs for a carry gun. Too big to hide. Too heavy and not enough capacity. That is why the military switched from .45 ACP to 9mm. People may hate that decision, but the military really has a mission for their sidearms and they make choices we may not personally like.

75% of the guns I own have no 'practical use' in my life other than to shoot them for fun. My Walther PPK/S in 22LR certainly qualifies. My American Enfield 1917 could be used for hunting, but that is not why I own it. My Blackhawk .357 is a hoot to shoot, but its only practical role is as a backup firearm in SHTF.

Other than size and weight, I would have no trouble using a Colt .45 revolver for a carry weapon; it is certainly reliable, powerful and I can shoot well with one.

I do love the mechanical nature of all steel semi-autos, of which the M1911 must be considered the still viable modern grandfather. I own quite a few polymer pistols and they are fine weapons. They do not evoke the same feelings during tear-down and reassembly. I respect the design of the Glocks and my own Sig P320s. They shoot very well. They are reliable. But they have no soul. My Enfield M1917 has a soul and it speaks to me of the history, fear and heroism of the soldiers in WWI and WWII. Even my all stainless S&W 686 seems to have some attenuated soul. I could never, ever sell it. My Henry Steel Bigboy (.357) makes me cranky with its tube feeder, but it has a place in my heart.

I would trade my (wonderful) P320s in a heartbeat for something I liked more and never have a twinge of regret.

I am finding this all a complex set of interactions. It partially explains "collecting" guns to me. I knew a guy at University who collected guns. When I showed him mine, he looked down the barrel of the first and said "You SHOOT this gun. It's been fired!" Apparently he owned thousands of dollars of weapons and never fired them. That is not me. I have zero safe queens. I fire everything I own.

And when I shoot them, clean them, or repair them, I get a visceral feedback that nothing in the realm of computers, data science or mathematics can evoke.

In the M1911, I am looking for another gun with a soul, even if it speaks Tagalog.
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Any man who would ask incredulously, “You shoot this gun?!?” should have gotten the immediate reply, “Yes, I do. Let me show you how your wife works too.”
"It is better to be violent, if there is violence in our hearts, than to put on the cloak of non-violence to cover impotence. There is hope for a violent man to become non-violent. There is no such hope for the impotent." -Gandhi

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Buck13 wrote: Wed Feb 13, 2019 11:22 pm
max129 wrote: Thu Feb 07, 2019 11:03 pm
I blame my daughter-in-law (a total sweetheart) because she is from the Philippines and says the PI makes great pistols.
I am glad Rock Island does not make a modestly priced 6" 1911 because I would buy one.
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Just say'n...
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My ATI has arrived. I just need to go to my LGS to pick it up.

My new 'Safe' arrived yesterday. I have two actual real Safes for valuables, but I lock my guns in locking cabinets. I bought the Stack-On GCB-8RTA. It took about 2 hours to assemble. Yes you could cut into it in a few minutes with a grinder. But I live in a high-rise with 3 layers of security between the street and my condo. Anyone entering the building with a big grinder is going to look pretty obvious.

In any event, I will go pick up my ATI 1911 9mm later today and give it a good cleaning. As far as I can tell, the ATIs and the Rock Islands are made from the same left-behind plans after WWII and they both have high quality steel. I will let you know my first impressions after I clean it and shoot it.

And "Yes" I believe that Rock Island has the same configurations as ATI. There is a Command 9mm and a long slide in both .45 and 9mm.

BTW, I blame YankeeTarheel for the new safe ... just saying
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max129 wrote: Thu Feb 14, 2019 9:40 am Yes you could cut into it in a few minutes with a grinder. But I live in a high-rise with 3 layers of security between the street and my condo. Anyone entering the building with a big grinder is going to look pretty obvious.
Anyone entering the building with an big grinder, wearing blue coveralls with a name patch, and carrying a clipboard is going to attract no attention whatsoever. People will just assume he's some contractor on a legitimate job.

That said, if you don't live on the ground floor, I'd be afraid the weight of a real gun safe would be too much, and I have a Stack-On cabinet myself anyway, so my stone just broke one of my glass walls.
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I agree with max129 I don’t carry my 1911. It is a range gun for fun. When I do carry it is ether my S&W 686 plus 3 inch or the Ruger Alaskan, never know when a brown bear might show up. When I do carry a semi auto handgun it is my Sig p227 double stack 45. I don’t have to worry about safeties since it is double action on the first bullet with a heavy trigger then all other are single action with a short reset trigger.
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Bisbee wrote: Thu Feb 14, 2019 4:58 pm Why carry a hand cannon when a derringer can work just fine? The movies tell us so and eyes just don’t lie.
Yes, movies and TV depictions of firearms are very accurate.

From round count & magazine capacity to recoil to accuracy.... I can barely watch gunfight scenes.
It is an unfortunate human failing that a full pocketbook often groans more loudly than an empty stomach.

- Franklin D. Roosevelt

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I picked up my new ATI 1911 9mm today. It cost me a little more than $450 because I wanted the Commander model. Other than barrel length, it is a bare bones GI model.

This is no custom gun. Everything is basic.

I tore it down and cleaned it. Not really dirty, but there was some residue from the test firing. The gun is basic, but frankly, I am really happy with the fit and finish. I was expecting a little rougher for less than $500.

I will range test it tomorrow. But I doubt I will have many issues. This baby feels very tight and solid. After cleaning and a touch of grease on the rails, I hand cycled it about 100 times. Really very smooth. Stiff springs, but it is a new 1911.

I already bought a new set of grips (lighter colored wood.) But the picture shows the grips that come with the gun, and they are decent quality.

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The above is a good enough image. The high resolution image is at the link below:

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New ATI 1911 9MM - Range Report:

Action is smooth and crisp. Sights are perfectly on - bullseye from a rest.

The trigger (Series 70) is nice and has a crisp light break (SAO of course).

Everything was perfect - Except: Failure to feed and chamber - sometimes once every 5 rounds. No eject failures at all. No stovepipes. Every failure was the bullet nose downward being crammed into the lowest part of the ramp. I don't have a 'real' 1911 to compare it to, but I think these things are stock.

The ramp to guide the bullet is a bit on the steep side - nothing like a 45 degree ramp. Much more straight up and down. And the barrel also has a mini ramp, but also not very angled.

It could be my magazines. I have 4 of them - all made by MEC-GAR. The one mag that came with the gun looks exactly like the two other 9 round mags I bought and then the 10 round mag is the same maker - all 4 made in Italy.

If it was always on the first bullet or last bullet I could blame tension. But it is just as frequent on bullet number 2 through 8 so it is likely not a magazine spring issue.

The appearance of the issue is that the bullets are not canted upward in the magazine and they get rammed forward and don't slide up the ramp.

The slide is still pretty stiff - that could be another source. If the discharge does not push the slide back far enough, that could be causing the misfeeds. I put 150 rounds through it, and it is not getting any better, so if it is the slide springs, they may need to be replaced before they 'break in'.

When I was cleaning it afterwards, I noticed yet again that this baby has very close tolerances. The slide has a heavy spring, but there is no binding at all. Things are smooth.

Overall, I am much happier than you would think. This thing is a fun range gun. I will work out the feeding issues. And Unlike my carry guns, it doesn't really matter to me if it feed less than perfectly. If you carry a gun, you NEVER want to have it feed poorly or jam. With a range gun, a few such quirks are far less bothersome.

Anyone with an ATI or a Rock Island have recommendations on 9mm magazines? Thanks!!
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