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Brain injury with respect to repetitive sport shooting has not yet been studied, so this study has been launched:

https://experiment.com/projects/examini ... ain-injury

I sometimes get a headache after large caliber rifle range trips. Not so much at all with one handed pistol shooting,

What say you folks? How do you perceive heavy recoil and your brain?

CDFingers

I didn't think so, but....

Now I've something new to worry about!

Not yet.

Never had a problem. 63 and an avid shooter mostly indoors and recently outside at rifle ranges. Never had a problem but I'd assume there is varying degrees of sensitivity to heavy concussive sounds. Professional musician from the era before controlled in-the-ear monitors and I have friends who stood on the same stage as myself and were exposed to the same levels and are now deaf. My hearing, while not as good as it was when I was 30, was still good enough to pass stringent hearing tests while looking for a job with the TSA. A little tinnitus but it does not bother me.

I'd suspect that "loud enough to cause damage" would be very subjective and variable depending on hearing sensitivity and the exact circumstance of expose as well as skull thickness and what type of hearing protection was used. I have been told by others that even with plugs and muffs the rifle range under a roof is too loud for them once the guns move into center fire/high power.

VooDoo

Another advantage of rimfires.

VodoundaVinci wrote: Thu Jan 10, 2019 6:48 am Never had a problem. 63 and an avid shooter mostly indoors and recently outside at rifle ranges. Never had a problem but I'd assume there is varying degrees of sensitivity to heavy concussive sounds. Professional musician from the era before controlled in-the-ear monitors and I have friends who stood on the same stage as myself and were exposed to the same levels and are now deaf. My hearing, while not as good as it was when I was 30, was still good enough to pass stringent hearing tests while looking for a job with the TSA. A little tinnitus but it does not bother me.

I'd suspect that "loud enough to cause damage" would be very subjective and variable depending on hearing sensitivity and the exact circumstance of expose as well as skull thickness and what type of hearing protection was used. I have been told by others that even with plugs and muffs the rifle range under a roof is too loud for them once the guns move into center fire/high power.

VooDoo

Same age, but my hearing loss isn't from shooting...it may be from years of motorcycle riding without ear plugs (and DNA as both my father and brother had/have severe hearing loss)
At the range I wear both ear plugs and -30db ear muffs. But the concussion from muzzle brakes in the next both can be harsh.

Bucolic wrote: Thu Jan 10, 2019 7:25 am Another advantage of rimfires.

In addition to being cheaper to shoot.

Not yet. These days, I do double-up on hearing pro...even outdoors. Any concussion that I feel is auditory. The last time I did feel slightly nauseous was at a crappy indoor range where a jackwagon was firing a bubba'd 8mm Mauser with a stupid muzzle-brake.

One more reason (sensitivity varies) that cans/suppressors should be legal in every State. I'd love to make it quiet and nice for all my shooting friends but my State and many others are terrified of "silencers". I don't shoot much rim fire as I tend to shoot what I carry and train in "move and shoot" or triple tap mode in pistols and I shoot with a brake in precision rifle. I am courteous enough now to shoot at the outdoor 200, 300, and 600 yard ranges even in the rain due to folks on the covered range getting upset with folks who shoot with brakes.

We need federal legalization of suppressors.

VooDoo

This is exactly why I am going to get a 224 Valkyrie instead of a 6.5 creedmore. Same distance, half the recoil.

CDFingers wrote: Wed Jan 09, 2019 10:47 am Brain injury with respect to repetitive sport shooting has not yet been studied, so this study has been launched:

https://experiment.com/projects/examini ... ain-injury

I sometimes get a headache after large caliber rifle range trips. Not so much at all with one handed pistol shooting,

What say you folks? How do you perceive heavy recoil and your brain?

CDFingers

It seems intuitive with large caliber handguns, rifles and shotguns but needs research to verify. Legalizing suppressors in all 50 states would help as Voodoo mentioned and sticking with smaller calibers.

"The "guy rules factor" holds that the more powerful the machine and the harder it is to control, the more macho those who use it are." - Massad Ayoob

I'm not buying the fact that the only reason .338 Lapua Magnum or .50 caliber or 3 1/2" 12 gauge exist just so guys can be Macho.

I *have* rehabilitated many new and smaller staured shooters (my Wife and I) who have been traumatized by a Mucho Macho Significant Other or mentors who insisted they learn to shoot and carry a compact .45 ACP or polymer frame .357 Magnum with 158 gr. +P loads because anything else isn't gonna give ya a one shot stop on a meth crazed Zombie.

Nothing is gonna stop a meth crazed Zombie and the chances of one of us being confronted by one is about like winning the lottery 3X or being struck by lightning twice in the same spot. But I'm not buying into the logic that we should all be shooting .22's at the local range, tossing our brakes in the trash, and learning to embrace our gentler side/lower recoil/lower noise options in lieu of scaring the kids next door.

I'm not shooting a 6.5 Creedmoor bolt action wth a brake and mounted in a tactical chassis to sterilize my range neighbors, be a Mall Ninja, or play Macho Man. Nor am I shooting a Dan Wesson .357 Mag. with full house loads from a 2 1/2" barrel to scare the kids at the range with the 4' flame and concussion that rings the walls. Loud concussion is part of the firearms game - it comes with the territory and I'm all for suppressors or segregated ranges (high power over here - .22 rim fire over there) or additional sound baffling etc.

I'm just concerned when folks begin to intimate that no one needs big, loud, powerful, or scary/tactical stuff and that we can all benefit from dialing it down. It bugs me as I'm not trying to be rude or a Tough Guy....just working and training here. And I train with some rather nasty pieces and I go to the concrete walled range and move and shoot rapid fire from the draw with some scary loud and powerful guns. My Nephew and I have been confronted by Police 2X at a local range because someone reported fully automatic gunfire. Just me an Dude doing fast triple taps with AR's and pistols.

VooDoo

I don’t particularly think about the loudness or recoil of a gun. I love to shoot .22LR mostly because it’s economical and allows me to concentrate on practicing.The treat is taking out one of the larger calibers for fun. The recoil or loudness is not a deterrent, the cost of ammo is. LOL.