So you went and whacked a deer, now what

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Well you could take it to a butcher for processing and pay him. Most butchers around the area where I live process and do a very good job but they charge by the pound. That means by human nature they will not be as interested in discarding certain waste like tallow silver skin and blood shot meat. Blood shot meat is where the dreaded lead is located, tallow and silver skin plus much of the cartilage tastes like shit and in even small amounts can spoil a whole batch of sausage mixings. This video is long but an excellent tutorial on butchering a deer. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3OaFdP3psc Sharp knives rule.

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Processing venison is the number two reason I don't hunt deer. First is because I'm basically lazy, too much work, also, It costs a lot to hunt when you break it down to all the particulars. Travel, time off, gear etc.. Cheaper to eat beef.
I'll stick to bunnies, and squirrels. They fit in a bag I can carry. A warm squirrel can be skinned and in the skillet in five minutes.
But. For those with more energy and culinary skills, that is a good video.

Here's how I do squirrels, only I use game shears. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBcokkJh6n4
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We are in a time where people think that chickens run around as packaged breasts. It's taken many years of me getting whole chickens for my wife, who is a city dweller, to get used to that. There is a large disconnect between our food supply and people, and I don't think it's healthy.
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Yeah, processing a deer is a big responsibility and/or cost. Also part of the reason I haven’t hunted bigger game than rabbits & squirrels, like Popgunn.
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shinzen wrote: Thu Nov 15, 2018 6:33 pm We are in a time where people think that chickens run around as packaged breasts. It's taken many years of me getting whole chickens for my wife, who is a city dweller, to get used to that. There is a large disconnect between our food supply and people, and I don't think it's healthy.
Saw one in the market the other day, it had 3 thighs & legs, 4 wings and 2 breasts...I sure would have liked to see that one hopping around the barn yard!
In cooking school we had to break down a half cow, a pig and a chicken, name the cuts and a few methods for cooking them.
Nice video shows the breakdown of the animal.
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I mostly joined LGC just now to reply to this thread. That looks like a good vid eelj, I watched the beginning. I wanted to ad my two kip about butchering and the cost of hunting as I'm self taught and I've done quite a few large animals.

It's not complicated. It's just meat. At it's most basic you hack up pieces of meat, cook, and eat them. Gutting a deer is probably more important than your butcher job. I'm sure there are good vids online, the main part is don't bust the gut sack or bladder, and wash out the body cavity with water as soon as you can. It's helpful to have a place to hang an animal to make skinning easier, helps with the large cuts too, cutting downhill and all. I don't age anything, and we hunt when it's very cold out.

The costs for most everything is very minimal. Poor people worldwide kill and process animals. Any second hand bolt gun of sufficient caliber with a scope is more than accurate enough for hunting. Maybe $300. Practice is mostly with a 22 rifle, off hand too, no bench rests out in the woods. Practice and practice some more. Clothing is $20 for a vest and hat together. Blaze Orange. Clothes are the same clothes I wear outside hiking or working. Hunter Safety is maybe $15. Take the class that is an actual class, real good info and it's mostly paid from Pittman Roberston funds. I've just spent 11 days walking in the snow at 8,000 feet hunting deer and elk. Fleece sweat pants, good winter boots, back pack, small stove and pot for coffee, Fleece shirt, fleece hoodie, fleece vest. All of them very cheap. Down the bottom of the pack is an emergency rain coat that fits over everything, and a down jacket. Even with temps in the single numbers and snowing I never needed to use them. Binoculars $100, GPS $300, Software for GPS $100 (On X Maps) Elk tag 45, Deer $35, Bear $45.

Knife is anything, I've used steak knives out of the drawer. For processing I rinse each piece of meat in clean water at the sink, allow to drain, cover with cling wrap, then butcher paper, and label. Later if we want burger or sausage we thaw the meat and grind it in a hand grinder we ordered online for $30. We did buy a freezer, sometimes 2 elk and a couple deer add up to 500 lbs or more. One deer could fit in a regular freezer of a fridge though a real freezer is colder. We use it all. Cut the leg bones with band saw and wrap for pho. All the flank meat becomes jerky. I cut out all the fat and silver skin I can, but if possible save all the cartilage for pho. Lots of meat ends up with silver skin or bits of fat, that's ok with me. I don't eat the fat from the body cavity but I'm fine with the rest of it.

Time off from work is a good thing to do. If you want to hunt, you should already like spending a lot of time in the woods. I don't tree stand hunt, can't out here, animals are way too spread out. I usually cover three to ten miles a day, mostly off trail. An hour each way travel. I got nothing in 11 days. Pulled a shot over the back of a cow, gave up a shot on another cow trying to move in and get a bigger one and the herd took off. Spent a lot of time chasing that herd. Only saw deer while elk hunting, and not one bear track. When it was time to hunt deer they'd migrated down the mountain. Still have a private land elk tag good until Jan 31, my son will fill that one, we've never gone empty handed with that tag.

That's it. If you've ever considered hunting, do. Shooting when it's not paper is not always easy, but one learns a lot about firearms, shooting, nature, and the scenery is good.

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Eris wrote: Sun Nov 18, 2018 11:01 pm The "cost" I refer to in hunting is the $2-3k fee to be able to hunt on someone's private land. Texas has almost no public land.
I'm aware of that fact and am quite sorry for that. One of the great things about living in the Americas in the beginning was being able to kill a deer for the family without getting your ears shaved off or hung by the kings rangers.

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Tagsoup, I read your intro. I like your user name. Hope you work out here on our forums. You really like the out doors and hunting, some advice from an old fart, take care of your health I'm 65 retired and living on 40 acres of prime Mn hunting land. This is my first year of no hunting due to back problems. Life didn't quite turn out the way I had envisioned.

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atxgunguy wrote: Mon Nov 19, 2018 1:42 pm
Eris wrote: Sun Nov 18, 2018 11:01 pm The "cost" I refer to in hunting is the $2-3k fee to be able to hunt on someone's private land. Texas has almost no public land.
Have you looked into the TX Annual Hunting Permit? I recognize it's not the best arrangement, but it offers some options on State land.

https://tpwd.texas.gov/huntwild/hunt/pu ... c_hunting/
I did not know they did mentored hunts. That would be perfect for me. Alas, it's too late for me this year, but I'll definitely try to keep this in mind for next year.
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Eris another option is to do the classic "knock on the door". There are some people who would never think of charging people to hunt the land, they don't let anyone hunt their land because no one has asked them that they took a shine to. I hunt some very prime acreage just because no one ever thought that old rich lady that donates to the adjacent National Park would allow hunting. Turns out she grew up part of the time on ranches, and is not put off by guns or hunting, no one had ever asked. I'd personally rather not hunt than to pay, it's the idea of it.

Eelj, I hear you about the health thing. Last year I was only 2 weeks out of the hospital when it was time. Two friends put me in front of the herd cow, then they winched her out, and skinned her after I winched her up in my barn. All I had to do was pull the trigger and butcher. This year am a lot better, and hope to be for quite a while. With luck I'll maybe have another couple decades as long as I don't get hurt or try to carry too big a load. Hope things get better with your back.

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atxgunguy wrote: Mon Nov 19, 2018 1:42 pm
Eris wrote: Sun Nov 18, 2018 11:01 pm The "cost" I refer to in hunting is the $2-3k fee to be able to hunt on someone's private land. Texas has almost no public land.
Have you looked into the TX Annual Hunting Permit? I recognize it's not the best arrangement, but it offers some options on State land.

https://tpwd.texas.gov/huntwild/hunt/pu ... c_hunting/
+1. I do most of my hunting on state land in Texas. There aren’t many places where you can walk in and hunt deer with a rifle, but there are some (mostly in E Texas). If you like to hunt for doves or small game, there are many more options.

TPWD also offers drawn hunts. You enter a drawing for the ones you want. The chances of being drawn is small (thousands enter for the more popular hunts and maybe a dozen or so are drawn) but the chances of success are much higher than on walk-in hunts. I have been drawn five times for various hunts over the past seven years, and came out with something in all but two.

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I was wondering what the heck are they talking about "Too expensive to hunt"? I didn't realize Texas had such limitation on public hunting. I guess I won't complain as much as I often do. WE have plenty of hunting areas here in indiana. It does get packed, but I have scouted enough to find my own little patch of land on public land that I can call my own for now anyways...

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Eris wrote: Sun Nov 18, 2018 11:01 pm The "cost" I refer to in hunting is the $2-3k fee to be able to hunt on someone's private land. Texas has almost no public land.
Corp I worked for back in the 80's had a large lease in southwest Texas 20K+ acres supposedly for customer entertainment. Cost was around $150K a year for lease. Only Zeus knows what the improvements cost - electricity, mobile homes, cabins, reefer for deer storage, covered pavillion and inclosed dining and bar area, blinds. Cost my corp. office store an estimated $250K yearly from bottom line. While we did entertain some customers, it was more for the owner, his family and friends - but back then was a great tax write off - not sure if it would be today. I'm not a deer hunter, but did hunt game birds, but that was not allowed as "they" did not want to "spook" the deer.
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