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Presumably to terrify him and his Family.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8mizoXyhY8

It's getting real. Or is it? What do you think, fellow Liberals? Are we OK with this?

VooDoo

I think stalking anyone at their residence and protesting at their home is a bad idea. Regardless of political alignment or beliefs.

I think protesting Jim Acosta at his house is bad just the same as protesting at tuckers house is.

I think if you're spreading racist lies on national TV you should be prepared to answer for it.

Isn't it disgusting that when right-wingers and anti-abortionists do this to leftists and women's health doctors, the right wing and Fux Noise is silent.
But when it happens to one of their lying, racist, anti-Semitic "stars", oh THEN "It's an outrage!" "The libtards are so rude!"

And all the usual hypocritical chickenshit!

Personally, I think it's a stupid thing to do, but spare me the fake outrage and crocodile tears.

"IT'S NOT FAIR!!! ONLY OUR SIDE IS ALLOWED TO LIE, CHEAT, HARASS, AND ABUSE!!! BECAUSE WE'RE ON GOD'S SIDE!!!!"

The only thing I found interesting in the footage was their chant--"No borders. No wall. No USA at all."

Some of the same video used by WUSA9.
https://youtu.be/OORbVz-fT-k

YankeeTarheel wrote: Fri Nov 09, 2018 10:55 am Personally, I think it's a stupid thing to do, but spare me the fake outrage and crocodile tears.

This.

featureless wrote: Fri Nov 09, 2018 11:00 am

YankeeTarheel wrote: Fri Nov 09, 2018 10:55 am Personally, I think it's a stupid thing to do, but spare me the fake outrage and crocodile tears.

This.

...........and again!

FDT

Apparently they kicked/broke the door in addition to chanting. I'm a pretty peaceful guy but if you come to my house and surround it and someone breaks the door in an attempt to enter/terrify my family I'm afraid I would take that as a direct attack and respond...someone could get hurt.

I'm shaking my head at the folks that don't see this division between Right and Left as coming to some serious hurt eventually....eventually, if this kind of thing continues, someone is gonna get seriously hurt.

Dun't matter if yer Right or Left minded. This is not gonna end well if it keep going this way.

VooDoo

VodoundaVinci wrote: Fri Nov 09, 2018 11:07 am Apparently they kicked/broke the door in addition to chanting. I'm a pretty peaceful guy but if you come to my house and surround it and someone breaks the door in an attempt to enter/terrify my family I'm afraid I would take that as a direct attack and respond...someone could get hurt.

That's likely to get someone shot.

featureless wrote: Fri Nov 09, 2018 11:10 am

VodoundaVinci wrote: Fri Nov 09, 2018 11:07 am Apparently they kicked/broke the door in addition to chanting. I'm a pretty peaceful guy but if you come to my house and surround it and someone breaks the door in an attempt to enter/terrify my family I'm afraid I would take that as a direct attack and respond...someone could get hurt.

That's likely to get someone shot.

And it's why I said it's a terrible idea to go and harass and intimidate people at their homes.

Would I do something like this? No.

Do I condemn this action? No.

Because I understand their frustration and fears that not standing up to falsehoods that spread hatred will lead to a slippery slope that gets worse and worse.

This action doesn’t make things better. Maybe it wasn’t meant to do anything but stir the pot and create controversy for what to this point has been mostly one sided threats of violence that everyone just poo-poos and wring their hands about. In this it succeeded and got people talking.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... paign=1490

After all, we here at LGC are used to the frustration of seeing pseudo-conservatives blithely making immature pseudo-threats to lives and property as if they don’t expect any serious pushback from society or the Left.

koolaidblue wrote: Fri Nov 09, 2018 10:39 am I think stalking anyone at their residence and protesting at their home is a bad idea. Regardless of political alignment or beliefs.

I think protesting Jim Acosta at his house is bad just the same as protesting at tuckers house is.

That’s nice to hear. But did you state that on your own online community? Because when good people do nothing and stay silent, evil wins.

I thought Tucker Carlson wears bow ties. When did he start wearing grown up ties?

eelj wrote: Fri Nov 09, 2018 2:15 pm I thought Tucker Carlson wears bow ties. When did he start wearing grown up ties?

When he stopped being worth listening to even as a representative of the other side.
(Around the time he moved to Fox) He gets to wear big boy pants when he leaves Fox.

VodoundaVinci wrote:Apparently they kicked/broke the door in addition to chanting. I'm a pretty peaceful guy but if you come to my house and surround it and someone breaks the door in an attempt to enter/terrify my family I'm afraid I would take that as a direct attack and respond...someone could get hurt.

I'm shaking my head at the folks that don't see this division between Right and Left as coming to some serious hurt eventually....eventually, if this kind of thing continues, someone is gonna get seriously hurt.

Dun't matter if yer Right or Left minded. This is not gonna end well if it keep going this way.

VooDoo

That’s disputed. I’ve read an article by someone who was there who said they knocked on the door. This wasn’t a group of 20 y/o black bloc people, this was a collection of 10 activists that included elderly people walking with canes. They have video. The “bad thing” that happened was one of them spray-painted an anarchy A on the driveway.

Meanwhile the Daily Caller and Breitbart have doxxed lefties, including one of the guys who went to Carlson’s house. The result has been harassment including death threats. No one was threatening to harm Carlson... hey, reap what you sow.

Adding link: https://thinkprogress.org/i-was-at-the- ... c2dc0cb67/

Protesting outside is OK provided there's no damage or threat.

Things like this don't paint a good picture on YT as it's only a small slice of the story.
If they broke the door down then that's a crime and in some states lethal force is allowed when "defending one's domicile".
If he let them in then he's a fool.
So whats to be done when extremists on both the Left and Right become emboldened and cross over from protest to physical confrontation?

MaxwellG wrote:Protesting outside is OK provided there's no damage or threat.

Things like this don't paint a good picture on YT as it's only a small slice of the story.
If they broke the door down then that's a crime and in some states lethal force is allowed when "defending one's domicile".
If he let them in then he's a fool.
So whats to be done when extremists on both the Left and Right become emboldened and cross over from protest to physical confrontation?

The door wasn’t broken and no one came to the door.

The right seems to have the idea that just about anything can be considered a threat to be met with force. Be careful.

https://news4sanantonio.com/news/local/ ... candidates

NEW BRAUNFELS -- Community members have come together to help a woman who was a victim of vandals after being targeted for supporting Democratic candidates.

Dede McConville had her car and political signs spray painted the night before the elections.

Car spraypainted red, "LEAVE TEXAS BITCH" painted on campaign signs and her driveway...

I'm guessing lefty victims are more resilient than those poor snowflakes on the right. Sniff.

For every Tucker Carlson harassed by lefties, there are a 1000 Dede McConvilles harassed and vandalized by right-wing hoodlums.
That's actually not too far off the real statistics, either.

gator68 wrote: Sat Nov 10, 2018 12:23 pm

MaxwellG wrote:Protesting outside is OK provided there's no damage or threat.

Things like this don't paint a good picture on YT as it's only a small slice of the story.
If they broke the door down then that's a crime and in some states lethal force is allowed when "defending one's domicile".
If he let them in then he's a fool.
So whats to be done when extremists on both the Left and Right become emboldened and cross over from protest to physical confrontation?

The door wasn’t broken and no one came to the door.

That's funny....there are several credible news sources that claim that the door was broken and that someone did answer the door. Fake news? Or were you there/know people who were there?

Targeting a persons personal residence, whether peaceful or not, is pushing the point to the limit IMHO. I'm a believer that we are headed to a spark that starts a civil war and targeting a persons home, no matter how benign, is pushing the limit. If people (of any political persuasion) target my home and family they need to make certain they cannot be identified lest I make a personal visit to have a chat with them. One does not target a persons domicile and threaten their family no matter our political differences.

I cry foul. You say it didn't happen - others say it did. We'll call it even.

VooDoo

Targeting an entire country, sending bombs, killing in churches and synagogues, burning mosques, vandalizing Jewish cemeteries, marching in the streets and beating some and shooting at others... Where does protesting outside someone's house fit into that continuum?

I have zero problem protesting in public spaces - whether outside a paid liar's home or the Trump tower. Trespassing crosses the line, yet it's expected that the public can walk up to a front door and knock.

It seems pretty ironic that it's not OK to get onto someone's lawn when conducting 1A activities, but it is OK to come into their house via the airwaves and do actual damage.

AndyH wrote: Sat Nov 10, 2018 8:25 pm Targeting an entire country, sending bombs, killing in churches and synagogues, burning mosques, vandalizing Jewish cemeteries, marching in the streets and beating some and shooting at others... Where does protesting outside someone's house fit into that continuum?

I have zero problem protesting in public spaces - whether outside a paid liar's home or the Trump tower. Trespassing crosses the line, yet it's expected that the public can walk up to a front door and knock.

It seems pretty ironic that it's not OK to get onto someone's lawn when conducting 1A activities, but it is OK to come into their house via the airwaves and do actual damage.

The right-wing insists on far, FAR more restrictive standards for left-wing protesters than themselves, and like damn fools we don't tell 'em to go fuck themselves!

Because a fascist takeover doesn't count on "fair", it counts on USING "fair" as another tool to batter its enemies. IOW, it uses the decency WE have that they don't have against us. And Mr. Carlson is just as guilty of it as Orren Hatch, John Cornyn, Jim Jordan, Yertle, Sarah "upchuck" Sanders, and, of course, Don the Con, the Orange shit-stain himself.

YankeeTarheel wrote: Sat Nov 10, 2018 9:35 pm The right-wing insists on far, FAR more restrictive standards for left-wing protesters than themselves, and like damn fools we don't tell 'em to go fuck themselves!

Because a fascist takeover doesn't count on "fair", it counts on USING "fair" as another tool to batter its enemies. IOW, it uses the decency WE have that they don't have against us. And Mr. Carlson is just as guilty of it as Orren Hatch, John Cornyn, Jim Jordan, Yertle, Sarah "upchuck" Sanders, and, of course, Don the Con, the Orange shit-stain himself.

VodoundaVinci Asked:

It's getting real. Or is it? What do you think, fellow Liberals? Are we OK with this?

I would far rather the protests were outside the HQ of the media companies, not a private home.

I do not wish to be naive - I just wish for a civil discourse. At the end of some Roadrunner cartoons, the Roadrunner and the Coyote are punching out the time clock at work and are civil towards one another - I want that to be true.

And I think this makes Carlson look a bit of a victim: something I do not want.