Who knew Trick or Treating as the Hitler family would be offensive?

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A Kentucky father has apologized for dressing his young son as Adolf Hitler for a Halloween event while posing as a Nazi soldier, saying his intent was to portray historical figures.

Bryant Goldbach also donned the uniform of a Nazi solider and headed to a “Trail of Treats” event in Owensboro, Ky., on Thursday, WEHT Eyewitness News reported.

“I think it was in bad taste for me to let my child to wear that, probably for me to wear that. It didn't occur to me. I thought it was a bad decision on my part," Goldbach said, according to the news outlet.

He added he would would “give anything to make it right.”

Rabbi Gary Mazo of Temple Adath B’nai Israel said in a statement that Goldbach’s apology was “important” but said it was a “sad reflection” on society that he didn’t know it would be offensive.

“A good rule of thumb would be: ‘If your costume calls to mind an event where millions were killed, choose another costume,’ ” he wrote.

Goldbach’s apology came after he originally blasted the “so-called ‘Tolerant Left’ ” for the treatment his son and him received at the Halloween event, WEHT Eyewitness News first reported.

“Tonight as we walked we saw people dressed as murderers, devils, serial killers, blood and gore of all sorts. Nobody batted an eye,” Goldbach originally wrote. “But my little boy and I dress as historical figures and it merits people not only making snide remarks, but approaching us and threatening my little 5-year-old boy.”

Goldbach wrote that adults threatened to rip off his chid’s costume.

“Yes, liberalism is alive and well,” he continued. “And we had the displeasure of dealing with the fruits of the so called ’Tolerant Left.’ ”

Previous posts on Goldbach’s Facebook page prior to his apology also criticize liberals, The Evansville Courier & Press reported.

Phrases like “white pride doesn’t mean hate,” and “being liberal means being a hypocrite” were included on Goldbach’s social media.
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing ... J315f2ETvM

Of course the internet being what it is, his Facebook and Twitter accounts were flooded with vitriol to the point his Twitter account disappeared and his Facebook page is now private; BUT not before countless screencaps of his social media were posted and he was doxxed. While he gave a tearful apology on camera, his social media paints a different story of the man and it is what you would expect. One more Nazi sent scurrying back under his rock.
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harriss wrote: Sun Oct 28, 2018 9:47 pm

Unlike Bryant Goldbach, Hitler didn't have a family. He was unmarried until a few hours prior to killing himself when he married his longtime mistress Eva Braun. He kept Braun out of the public eye claiming he was married to the German people.
I'm aware of that. The article did not mention that his daughter was with them attired as Eva Braun in her traditional Bavarian attire as seen in Hitler's home movies from Berchtesgaden
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If he had dressed up the family as Li'l Antifas, the right wing snowflakes would have been crying in their safe space (Faux News).

Sometimes people are legitimately offended by things. It doesn't mean they are wrong to be outraged at Nazis. It doesn't mean they shouldn't speak up. Nazi and Klan costumes for children are, at best, in very bad taste. Some people need to be reminded that most people don't tolerate Nazi and Klan ideologies in this country.
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K9s wrote: Mon Oct 29, 2018 12:12 am So the guy says he was just a history buff and it triggered the libs?

Maybe he should have just stuck with his historically correct Klan robes?
Actually, he did confederate soldiers in the past, so there is a possible trend.
I believe that got rather a negative reception as well.
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YankeeTarheel wrote: Mon Oct 29, 2018 11:09 am
K9s wrote: Mon Oct 29, 2018 12:12 am So the guy says he was just a history buff and it triggered the libs?

Maybe he should have just stuck with his historically correct Klan robes?
Actually, he did confederate soldiers in the past, so there is a possible trend.
I believe that got rather a negative reception as well.
Sounds like he just enjoys using his kids to troll people.
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Eris wrote: Mon Oct 29, 2018 11:17 am
YankeeTarheel wrote: Mon Oct 29, 2018 11:09 am
K9s wrote: Mon Oct 29, 2018 12:12 am So the guy says he was just a history buff and it triggered the libs?

Maybe he should have just stuck with his historically correct Klan robes?
Actually, he did confederate soldiers in the past, so there is a possible trend.
I believe that got rather a negative reception as well.
Sounds like he just enjoys using his kids to troll people.

Could be onto something here. Many parents use their children to get their points of view out in public. I see it at my son's school on a regular basis. When my son was in middle school, the parents would try to push some of the rules as fast as they could using the kids.

I hate seeing children used as pawns!!

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BjornSig wrote: Tue Oct 30, 2018 2:11 am I guess I just don't understand why so many are angry about this? How does it directly effect you? I could not care much about what others do as long as it does not affect me and my family. His First Amendment Right is his to use as he sees fit. What he dresses in is his business.
And how we react is our business. First Amendment doesn’t cover neighbors expressing themselves as shitty people.
If your neighbor dressed in an American flag dipped in shit and otherwise defaced I’ll hazard you’d sing a different tune.
You are so predictable in your posts Boring Bjorn.
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HuckleberryFun wrote: Tue Oct 30, 2018 8:25 am
BjornSig wrote: Tue Oct 30, 2018 2:11 am I guess I just don't understand why so many are angry about this? How does it directly effect you? I could not care much about what others do as long as it does not affect me and my family. His First Amendment Right is his to use as he sees fit. What he dresses in is his business.
And how we react is our business. First Amendment doesn’t cover neighbors expressing themselves as shitty people.
If your neighbor dressed in an American flag dipped in shit and otherwise defaced I’ll hazard you’d sing a different tune.
You are so predictable in your posts Boring Bjorn.

What is your issue with me? What is the problem?

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BjornSig wrote: Tue Oct 30, 2018 9:18 am
HuckleberryFun wrote: Tue Oct 30, 2018 8:25 am
BjornSig wrote: Tue Oct 30, 2018 2:11 am I guess I just don't understand why so many are angry about this? How does it directly effect you? I could not care much about what others do as long as it does not affect me and my family. His First Amendment Right is his to use as he sees fit. What he dresses in is his business.
And how we react is our business. First Amendment doesn’t cover neighbors expressing themselves as shitty people.
If your neighbor dressed in an American flag dipped in shit and otherwise defaced I’ll hazard you’d sing a different tune.
You are so predictable in your posts Boring Bjorn.

What is your issue with me? What is the problem?
I think that Huck's point is that "conservatives" freak out if someone defaces the flag or kneels during the anthem, but sing a different tune about Nazis and Klan wearing their costumes in public. If the Klan robes or Nazi uniform don't bother conservatives, then why is only some protected speech (usually by minorities & women) treated differently?
It is an unfortunate human failing that a full pocketbook often groans more loudly than an empty stomach.

- Franklin D. Roosevelt

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K9s wrote: Tue Oct 30, 2018 10:03 am
BjornSig wrote: Tue Oct 30, 2018 9:18 am
HuckleberryFun wrote: Tue Oct 30, 2018 8:25 am
BjornSig wrote: Tue Oct 30, 2018 2:11 am I guess I just don't understand why so many are angry about this? How does it directly effect you? I could not care much about what others do as long as it does not affect me and my family. His First Amendment Right is his to use as he sees fit. What he dresses in is his business.
And how we react is our business. First Amendment doesn’t cover neighbors expressing themselves as shitty people.
If your neighbor dressed in an American flag dipped in shit and otherwise defaced I’ll hazard you’d sing a different tune.
You are so predictable in your posts Boring Bjorn.

What is your issue with me? What is the problem?
I think that Huck's point is that "conservatives" freak out if someone defaces the flag or kneels during the anthem, but sing a different tune about Nazis and Klan wearing their costumes in public. If the Klan robes or Nazi uniform don't bother conservatives, then why is only some protected speech (usually by minorities & women) treated differently?
Why? (he says sarcastically :sarcasm: )

We all know why.
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BjornSig wrote:I guess I just don't understand why so many are angry about this? How does it directly effect you? I could not care much about what others do as long as it does not affect me and my family. His First Amendment Right is his to use as he sees fit. What he dresses in is his business.
You honestly don’t care about things that don’t directly affect you or your family?
You be ok with Jew killing, lynchings, brown shirts marching through the street beating people as long as it doesn’t affect you?

I’d be surprised if that’s true (but not too surprised after two years of Trump.)

The holocaust didn’t happen over night. It took a decade of normalizing discrimination,violence and hatred against a minority. This episode is one event of many that feels like the beginning of a very bad time. Why did that guy shoot up the synagogue? Why does this guy feel ok going out in public dressed like a Nazi? You don’t think these are linked?
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gator68 wrote: Tue Oct 30, 2018 1:22 am
BjornSig wrote:While I find this fathers choice of a costume very wrong; people need to get over it. Just chill.
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He’s posted things about white pride and his wife is a holocaust denier.
Fuck that.
He’s been just waiting to wear his SS uniform in public and thought now was the time.
Nope.
So true.

Full disclosure: I've dressed as a parody of a nazi once (well, two or three times) but I was wearing clown makeup.
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It was fun to borrow the aesthetic from the third reich to do something ridiculous and even when wearing a mock armband swastika which was actually made up of running clown silhouettes people were still taken aback. I'll bet this guy would have been upset that I desecrated a perfectly good replica uniform.

This guy in his period 'costume'? Yeah, I'll bet there's plenty of wear on the heels of his boots.
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There are better costumes to wear than any Nazi costumes. I thought of a great scary costume to wear. The Grim Reaper only in an Orange robe where the head is shielded. When the cowling is folded back the face is a mask of Orange Stain on the front and Beautiful Teddy Cruz on the back mask. Two faces of evil.
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Eris wrote: Tue Oct 30, 2018 6:53 pm So would it be OK to dress up as Col. Klink or Sgt. Schultz from Hogan's Heros?
I dressed up as Sgt. Schultz when I was in 6th grade but that was when Hogan's Heroes was a first run popular show and costumes at school for Halloween was normal. That was when I also learned that wasn't a smart idea; my shop teacher was a survivor of the German occupation of Norway and it brought back some unpleasant memories for him.
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Yeah, Bubba here in this story forgot that we really don’t normalize fascists or racists in America and we don’t dress as them to go trick-or-treating just for “historical accuracy”. People “need to chill” here as much as white supremacists need to take their lumps without whining like a little bitch when they decide to march in White Pride “parades”, Bjorn.

Now if this guy and his family put on green face paint and went as Nazi Zombies...
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