https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/hu ... 8b58802668

I'm not surprised by the blowback, but then again, making death threats against someone for hunting legally is a bit ironic. Am I missing something here? Is she being criticized for posting photos of the animals she killed? Is that considered taboo in other countries?

Yea, youre missing something for sure.

I could understand the outrage if this were an endangered species or if the number killed was excessive, but 2 goats? This is just hatred for hunters, plain and simple.

These same outraged people are perfectly happy to have us buy goat meat at the supermarket, but heaven forbid we kill it ourselves and take pride in our skills.

Larysa Switlyk shot animals that are legally hunted in the country, but many still took offense.

Yep. Wild goats already legally hunted in Scotland, but it's only OK if the rulers and the ruled don't acknowledge it. The pics make people have to acknowledge Scots and paying guests can hunt wild goats.

Eris wrote: Thu Oct 25, 2018 1:20 pmThese same outraged people are perfectly happy to have us buy goat meat at the supermarket, but heaven forbid we kill it ourselves and take pride in our skills.

Exactly.

The anti-hunting sentiment blows my mind. I think hunting is very much like gardening and trying to be self-sufficient. Anti-hunters see it purely as an act of killing, but like you said, they have no qualms buying store bought meat. Out of sight, out of mind.

I’m not against hunting. In fact I see that is part of wildlife management to prevent the over population of certain animals that can cause more problems. That is what she was doing with hunting the goats. I don’t agree with what Agent Orange’s ill bred offspring was doing in Africa. The hunting of endangered animals should not be accepted as okay. It should be the protection of those specific animals to allow them to reproduce and no longer be endangering. What Turnip’s son was doing is no better than the poachers.

Carl_Spackler wrote: Thu Oct 25, 2018 2:03 pm The anti-hunting sentiment blows my mind. I think hunting is very much like gardening and trying to be self-sufficient. Anti-hunters see it purely as an act of killing, but like you said, they have no qualms buying store bought meat. Out of sight, out of mind.

Scottish MP's tweet referenced in the video:
https://twitter.com/Feorlean/status/1055041039491309568

Michael Russell
As the local member of @ScotParl I am raising this as a matter of urgency with @strathearnrose - if this is actually happening on #Islay , and laid on by some sort of tour company I would want to see it stopped immediately

If they cannot jam Switlyk up for hunting legally, perhaps Scottish authorities can get her for the image of an AR on her clothes. Maybe slap her with an ASBO.
https://twitter.com/LthargicSuprhro/sta ... 6717017088

I guess I am in the minority (I am used to that! heh heh).

I have no problem with the act of hunting for food. As a kid, I never understood seeing "trophies" like stuffed heads of animals. It always seemed creepy. I had no problem killing/catching, skinning, cleaning, and eating fish, fowl, or whatever.

Personally, I don't think it is respectful of the animal to take a gloating picture with its dead carcass. Eat it. Skin it. Whatever. Don't gloat over your dead animal. Give thanks. Such beautiful creatures should be respected.

K9s wrote: Thu Oct 25, 2018 9:55 pm I guess I am in the minority (I am used to that! heh heh).

I have no problem with the act of hunting for food. As a kid, I never understood seeing "trophies" like stuffed heads of animals. It always seemed creepy. I had no problem killing/catching, skinning, cleaning, and eating fish, fowl, or whatever.

Personally, I don't think it is respectful of the animal to take a gloating picture with its dead carcass. Eat it. Skin it. Whatever. Don't gloat over your dead animal. Give thanks. Such beautiful creatures should be respected.

I've never hunted but I've recently started fishing after many, many years. But while I see lots of bonefishers, I don't get it. To me, hunting or fishing and not eating the animal is like Alan Rickman's Metatron in "Dogma" (RIP) sipping and spitting out tequilla. I don't like killing but I do like eating and refuse to be a hypocrite about it. I cannot decide if I want to try hunting or not, but I absolutely, totally hate the idea of giving an animal, especially a relatively intelligent animal like a deer, pain. I find trapping to be sickening for that reason.

YankeeTarheel wrote: Thu Oct 25, 2018 10:23 pm

K9s wrote: Thu Oct 25, 2018 9:55 pm I guess I am in the minority (I am used to that! heh heh).

I have no problem with the act of hunting for food. As a kid, I never understood seeing "trophies" like stuffed heads of animals. It always seemed creepy. I had no problem killing/catching, skinning, cleaning, and eating fish, fowl, or whatever.

Personally, I don't think it is respectful of the animal to take a gloating picture with its dead carcass. Eat it. Skin it. Whatever. Don't gloat over your dead animal. Give thanks. Such beautiful creatures should be respected.

I've never hunted but I've recently started fishing after many, many years. But while I see lots of bonefishers, I don't get it. To me, hunting or fishing and not eating the animal is like Alan Rickman's Metatron in "Dogma" (RIP) sipping and spitting out tequilla. I don't like killing but I do like eating and refuse to be a hypocrite about it. I cannot decide if I want to try hunting or not, but I absolutely, totally hate the idea of giving an animal, especially a relatively intelligent animal like a deer, pain. I find trapping to be sickening for that reason.

We grew up poor. Hunting and fishing were really the best way to get meat. When my brother and I grew up and didn't have to hunt to eat, we stopped. We never took those animals for granted. We would never have killed for sport. Pictures or taxidermy seem to glorify the violence, so I think it is creepy.

Again, that is just me. We could never have afforded to "stuff" or "mount" animals like that anyway. YMMV

K9s wrote: Thu Oct 25, 2018 10:59 pm

YankeeTarheel wrote: Thu Oct 25, 2018 10:23 pm

K9s wrote: Thu Oct 25, 2018 9:55 pm I guess I am in the minority (I am used to that! heh heh).

I have no problem with the act of hunting for food. As a kid, I never understood seeing "trophies" like stuffed heads of animals. It always seemed creepy. I had no problem killing/catching, skinning, cleaning, and eating fish, fowl, or whatever.

Personally, I don't think it is respectful of the animal to take a gloating picture with its dead carcass. Eat it. Skin it. Whatever. Don't gloat over your dead animal. Give thanks. Such beautiful creatures should be respected.

I've never hunted but I've recently started fishing after many, many years. But while I see lots of bonefishers, I don't get it. To me, hunting or fishing and not eating the animal is like Alan Rickman's Metatron in "Dogma" (RIP) sipping and spitting out tequilla. I don't like killing but I do like eating and refuse to be a hypocrite about it. I cannot decide if I want to try hunting or not, but I absolutely, totally hate the idea of giving an animal, especially a relatively intelligent animal like a deer, pain. I find trapping to be sickening for that reason.

We grew up poor. Hunting and fishing were really the best way to get meat. When my brother and I grew up and didn't have to hunt to eat, we stopped. We never took those animals for granted. We would never have killed for sport. Pictures or taxidermy seem to glorify the violence, so I think it is creepy.

Again, that is just me. We could never have afforded to "stuff" or "mount" animals like that anyway. YMMV

See, I've got no objection to people hunting for meat because bullets are cheaper than steak.

Some people just can't stand it that other people shoot and eat animals. I don't do it myself, but as long as the kill is humane, I accept the hunting and eating by others. For adults, eating meat is not necessary. Nor is shooting targets. Life goes on--unless you get hunted, I guess. :-0

CDFingers

This is in Scotland, don't know if a hunting ban would fly in England, Wales or Northern Ireland. Scotland is a little smaller than Maine. We have a big cultural difference on firearms.

K9s wrote: Thu Oct 25, 2018 9:55 pm I guess I am in the minority (I am used to that! heh heh).

I have no problem with the act of hunting for food. As a kid, I never understood seeing "trophies" like stuffed heads of animals. It always seemed creepy. I had no problem killing/catching, skinning, cleaning, and eating fish, fowl, or whatever.

Personally, I don't think it is respectful of the animal to take a gloating picture with its dead carcass. Eat it. Skin it. Whatever. Don't gloat over your dead animal. Give thanks. Such beautiful creatures should be respected.

I personally have no problems with people posting pics of their kills. A pic of a 10 pt buck vs a giant Bass is the same to me. I think, too, that when it comes to wild game a lot of people have to prove that they did indeed take down whatever. It's partly an ego thing but also a pride thing imo. Also, trophy hunting vs survival hunting can coexist (not that I condone trophy hunting). My former father in-law always took his deer to the taxidermist to proudly display them in his home. But, he also harvested the meat and always gave it to others to enjoy.

Carl_Spackler wrote: Fri Oct 26, 2018 10:40 am

K9s wrote: Thu Oct 25, 2018 9:55 pm I guess I am in the minority (I am used to that! heh heh).

I have no problem with the act of hunting for food. As a kid, I never understood seeing "trophies" like stuffed heads of animals. It always seemed creepy. I had no problem killing/catching, skinning, cleaning, and eating fish, fowl, or whatever.

Personally, I don't think it is respectful of the animal to take a gloating picture with its dead carcass. Eat it. Skin it. Whatever. Don't gloat over your dead animal. Give thanks. Such beautiful creatures should be respected.

I personally have no problems with people posting pics of their kills. A pic of a 10 pt buck vs a giant Bass is the same to me. I think, too, that when it comes to wild game a lot of people have to prove that they did indeed take down whatever. It's partly an ego thing but also a pride thing imo. Also, trophy hunting vs survival hunting can coexist (not that I condone trophy hunting). My former father in-law always took his deer to the taxidermist to proudly display them in his home. But, he also harvested the meat and always gave it to others to enjoy.

Almost every hunter I know has no problem with it. I was just stating my oddball view on the subject. I don't know why it always bothered me. No offense meant.

I went hunting (taking a hike with a gun) for the first time this fall with my inlaws. I didn't grow up in a hunting family. My male inlaws all hunt. After 25 years in the family, the stars finally aligned and I went with them. To my inlaws, it's a huge bonding experience and source of pride, "bragging" rights and tomfoolery.

I did see a buck but it was outside my comfort range so didn't take a shoot. I think hunting is an important part of being human, to understand what it is to eat meat and to connect to the land. All of that said, I'm don't support trophy hunting although it does have its place when done under managed populations and brings in some much needed money to some parts of the world. I'll look at your hunting photos, just no dicpix please.

K9s wrote: Fri Oct 26, 2018 10:44 am

Carl_Spackler wrote: Fri Oct 26, 2018 10:40 am

K9s wrote: Thu Oct 25, 2018 9:55 pm I guess I am in the minority (I am used to that! heh heh).

I have no problem with the act of hunting for food. As a kid, I never understood seeing "trophies" like stuffed heads of animals. It always seemed creepy. I had no problem killing/catching, skinning, cleaning, and eating fish, fowl, or whatever.

Personally, I don't think it is respectful of the animal to take a gloating picture with its dead carcass. Eat it. Skin it. Whatever. Don't gloat over your dead animal. Give thanks. Such beautiful creatures should be respected.

I personally have no problems with people posting pics of their kills. A pic of a 10 pt buck vs a giant Bass is the same to me. I think, too, that when it comes to wild game a lot of people have to prove that they did indeed take down whatever. It's partly an ego thing but also a pride thing imo. Also, trophy hunting vs survival hunting can coexist (not that I condone trophy hunting). My former father in-law always took his deer to the taxidermist to proudly display them in his home. But, he also harvested the meat and always gave it to others to enjoy.

Almost every hunter I know has no problem with it. I was just stating my oddball view on the subject. I don't know why it always bothered me. No offense meant.

No offense taken. Everyone will have different viewpoints on the subject, and I certainly don't look down on anyone that dislikes viewing animals after they've been killed. My objection comes from those that choose to make death threats against someone for posting pics of their kill, which was illustrated in the link I posted. That type of discourse is not only counterproductive but it truly is steeped in ignorance. If people actually took the time and effort to educate themselves about conservation and hunting practices here in the US we probably wouldn't have so much hostility.

featureless wrote: Fri Oct 26, 2018 10:56 am I went hunting (taking a hike with a gun) for the first time this fall with my inlaws. I didn't grow up in a hunting family. My male inlaws all hunt. After 25 years in the family, the stars finally aligned and I went with them. To my inlaws, it's a huge bonding experience and source of pride, "bragging" rights and tomfoolery.

I did see a buck but it was outside my comfort range so didn't take a shoot. I think hunting is an important part of being human, to understand what it is to eat meat and to connect to the land. All of that said, I'm don't support trophy hunting although it does have its place when done under managed populations and brings in some much needed money to some parts of the world. I'll look at your hunting photos, just no dicpix please.

Agreed. A lot of hunters are perfectly fine with not harvesting a deer. It's about the experience of being with family and enjoying the outdoors.