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AndyH wrote: Wed Oct 10, 2018 1:59 pm I talked with my dad an hour ago; he's between Gainesville and the Gulf coast. They're not worried there - just grey skies and windy.

155 MPH is a lot of wind, though. I'm glad it's a fast mover.

President Donald Trump’s tweets past and present keep hunting him.

In 2012, Trump tweeted that Barack Obama, “campaigned with JayZ & Springsteen while Hurricane Sandy victims across NY & NJ are still decimated by Sandy. Wrong!”


Fast forward a few years, and Trump is currently headed to a campaign rally in Erie, Pennsylvania, in the midst of a category 4 hurricane hitting Floridas’ coast.

Ahead of his rally, Trump talked to reporters saying that he could not cancel the rally because it would be “unfair” to the “thousands” of people who waited to see him.

highdesert wrote: Sat Oct 13, 2018 11:47 am Andy, how is your dad?

AndyH wrote: Sat Oct 13, 2018 4:26 pm

highdesert wrote: Sat Oct 13, 2018 11:47 am Andy, how is your dad?

He's great, Highdesert, thanks! No storm impact at all.

highdesert wrote: Thu Oct 18, 2018 10:45 am Depressing video to watch. After every disaster the question gets asked should we continue to allow people to rebuild in disaster prone areas. It's not a politically popular question but billions are spent on rebuilding which includes public and private (insurance) funds. In CA the utility ratepayers got screwed over recent fires in the north and south when private utility companies squawked to the legislature over lawsuits. With climate change we'll be forced into this conversation.

featureless wrote: Thu Oct 18, 2018 11:37 am

highdesert wrote: Thu Oct 18, 2018 10:45 am Depressing video to watch. After every disaster the question gets asked should we continue to allow people to rebuild in disaster prone areas. It's not a politically popular question but billions are spent on rebuilding which includes public and private (insurance) funds. In CA the utility ratepayers got screwed over recent fires in the north and south when private utility companies squawked to the legislature over lawsuits. With climate change we'll be forced into this conversation.

It's an interesting question and one I've discussed with peers in the adaption planning world quite a bit. Typically referred to as managed or organized retreat. It's fraught with all sorts of social equity issues, government takings issues, financial issues, etc. In some ways, the insurance market will force the "solution" as they continue to have catastrophic loses. Not that that approach at all addresses the social equity issues. If I had the time, I'd love to do a case study on last year's Sonoma County fires.

highdesert wrote: Thu Oct 18, 2018 11:52 am

featureless wrote: Thu Oct 18, 2018 11:37 am

highdesert wrote: Thu Oct 18, 2018 10:45 am Depressing video to watch. After every disaster the question gets asked should we continue to allow people to rebuild in disaster prone areas. It's not a politically popular question but billions are spent on rebuilding which includes public and private (insurance) funds. In CA the utility ratepayers got screwed over recent fires in the north and south when private utility companies squawked to the legislature over lawsuits. With climate change we'll be forced into this conversation.

It's an interesting question and one I've discussed with peers in the adaption planning world quite a bit. Typically referred to as managed or organized retreat. It's fraught with all sorts of social equity issues, government takings issues, financial issues, etc. In some ways, the insurance market will force the "solution" as they continue to have catastrophic loses. Not that that approach at all addresses the social equity issues. If I had the time, I'd love to do a case study on last year's Sonoma County fires.

I agree that insurance carriers will push it either by leaving the CA market or with premiums becoming astronomical. And yes there is a big social equity question especially the coasts which only the very wealthy could afford by paying exorbitant insurance premiums or self insuring.

Because of the recent fires we're focused on that threat, but earthquakes are still out there. LA Times has an article this morning on earthquakes and retrofitting.
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-m ... story.html

ARRL Northern Florida Section Seeks Volunteers to Deploy to Hurricane Zone

Northern Florida ARES is seeking volunteers to deploy for up to a week to areas of the state devastated by Hurricane Michael. Serious communication issues remain in the Florida Panhandle in the storm's wake, with the telecommunications infrastructure ravaged and storm victims unable to communicate with family members outside the region. The Florida State Emergency Operations Center (EOC) is hoping to recruit eight operators. Section Emergency Coordinator Karl Martin, KG4HBN, said ARES needs as many volunteers as possible.

"They need to be self-sufficient for 7 days (food, water, place to sleep, power, radio, etc.)," he said. "HF is highly recommended. The list of locations needing to be filled continues to grow."

Clay County ARES Assistant Emergency Coordinator (AEC) and Public Information Officer Scott Roberts, KK4ECR, was cited in a news media account that several counties with damage to critical infrastructure remain without any form of communication, with Amateur Radio remaining as the only method of communication between shelters and emergency management. Roberts said a few volunteers deployed from Duval County to assist at shelters in the Panhandle, but more are needed to help relay information and direct resources within affected areas.

"If they need cots, more food, or they're running low on anything, they would pass that information over radio to the state emergency operations center, or the resource centers to get them sent to the shelters," Roberts told News4JAX in Jacksonville this week.

Volunteers must have been vetted by their local county emergency management agency, have radio equipment and antennas for VHF/UHF (SARnet), HF, and, if possible, HF Winlink capability, and their own shelter. Alternate power sources would be needed as well -- including solar, wind, or generator, as well as food and water for 7 days. Volunteers should be familiar with message and traffic-handling.

All prospective volunteers should live in Florida. Do not self-deploy!

Visit the ARRL Northern Florida Section website for more information or contact Martin.