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Posted: **Sun Jul 19, 2020 10:29 pm**

I love both. Mostly depends on the weather for me.

SR

Posted: **Mon Jul 20, 2020 7:53 am**

kronkmusic wrote: Sun Jul 19, 2020 10:21 pm Man I truly feel bad for you if you think coffee gets anywhere near really good tea. The best coffee in the world is basic compared to even decent loose leaf Chinese, Japanese, and Taiwanese tea. If we ever meet I'll brew you some real tea and your mind will be blown. Definitely bringing a full gamut of tea to the next in-person national meet, gotta enlighten my liberal gun owning brothers and sisters.

Long long ago in a land far far away I used to put on wine, coffee & tea seminars in a resort community. They initially were something to interest the wives while the husbands played golf but gradually the attendance changed and they added ones to entertain the husbands while the wives played tennis. The range though when you start looking at the varietals and properly brewed coffee or tea are pretty much even. Until recently the edge definitely went to the teas since there were just so much more variety available but these days coffees are catching up.

Posted: **Mon Jul 20, 2020 9:08 am**

kronkmusic wrote: Sun Jul 19, 2020 10:21 pm
YankeeTarheel wrote: Fri Jul 17, 2020 11:06 pm
Gaznazdiak wrote: Fri Jul 17, 2020 9:08 pm
YankeeTarheel wrote: Fri Jul 17, 2020 9:24 am

I guess the moral to this is: Don't drink tea!

The army gave me a life long addiction to it. It was made up in the early morning in massive square insulated urns with 10 liters of water and seemingly a couple of kilos of tea leaves in a wire strainer, put on the back of a Land Rover and trucked out to wherever we were.

By the time it got to us it was almost strong enough to stand your spoon up in. To this day I still use several bags to make up my pint cup, which is refilled the moment it's empty. My family always said I only have one cuppa a day, starts when I wake up and finishes just before bed.
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The Army's instant coffee on the other hand made an excellent metal etching solution.
Not sure good tea is better than bad coffee...But good coffee is better than either.
Man I truly feel bad for you if you think coffee gets anywhere near really good tea. The best coffee in the world is basic compared to even decent loose leaf Chinese, Japanese, and Taiwanese tea. If we ever meet I'll brew you some real tea and your mind will be blown. Definitely bringing a full gamut of tea to the next in-person national meet, gotta enlighten my liberal gun owning brothers and sisters.

I've drunk just about every tea there is, from Yerba Mate to Lapsang Souchong to Thai Jasmine. I've drunk the Picard tea "Earl Grey, Hot", Green tea, Sweet-Touch-Nee Cha, and all kinds of herbals, brewed loosely or bagged. NO tea compares to Swing's Ethiopian Yergacheffe, Zimbabwe, or Guatemala Santa Isabel (which I'm enjoying this morning).

British Tea is SO bad they doctor it with milk and sugar just to make it drinkable. Unfortunately too many Americans do the same to coffee. Personally I only add that crap when either tea or coffee is SO bad I feel it will peel the lining off my esophagus and the enamel off my teeth. And the garbage Starbuck's sells doesn't qualify as coffee, and Dunkin's barely does.

Next you'll try to convince me that Scotch (the smell and taste of which makes me turn green and want to puke) is better than Maker's 46 Bourbon or Zacapa 23 year old Rum! (neither of which compare to the BEST of their kind, IMHO: Blanton's Single Barrel and Clément 1952 Trés Vieux Rhum Agricole)

Posted: **Mon Jul 20, 2020 9:21 am**

Posted: **Mon Jul 20, 2020 9:56 am**

YankeeTarheel wrote: Mon Jul 20, 2020 9:08 am
kronkmusic wrote: Sun Jul 19, 2020 10:21 pm
YankeeTarheel wrote: Fri Jul 17, 2020 11:06 pm
Gaznazdiak wrote: Fri Jul 17, 2020 9:08 pm

The army gave me a life long addiction to it. It was made up in the early morning in massive square insulated urns with 10 liters of water and seemingly a couple of kilos of tea leaves in a wire strainer, put on the back of a Land Rover and trucked out to wherever we were.

By the time it got to us it was almost strong enough to stand your spoon up in. To this day I still use several bags to make up my pint cup, which is refilled the moment it's empty. My family always said I only have one cuppa a day, starts when I wake up and finishes just before bed.
20200718_110557.jpg

The Army's instant coffee on the other hand made an excellent metal etching solution.
Not sure good tea is better than bad coffee...But good coffee is better than either.
Man I truly feel bad for you if you think coffee gets anywhere near really good tea. The best coffee in the world is basic compared to even decent loose leaf Chinese, Japanese, and Taiwanese tea. If we ever meet I'll brew you some real tea and your mind will be blown. Definitely bringing a full gamut of tea to the next in-person national meet, gotta enlighten my liberal gun owning brothers and sisters.
I've drunk just about every tea there is, from Yerba Mate to Lapsang Souchong to Thai Jasmine. I've drunk the Picard tea "Earl Grey, Hot", Green tea, Sweet-Touch-Nee Cha, and all kinds of herbals, brewed loosely or bagged. NO tea compares to Swing's Ethiopian Yergacheffe, Zimbabwe, or Guatemala Santa Isabel (which I'm enjoying this morning).

British Tea is SO bad they doctor it with milk and sugar just to make it drinkable. Unfortunately too many Americans do the same to coffee. Personally I only add that crap when either tea or coffee is SO bad I feel it will peel the lining off my esophagus and the enamel off my teeth. And the garbage Starbuck's sells doesn't qualify as coffee, and Dunkin's barely does.

Next you'll try to convince me that Scotch (the smell and taste of which makes me turn green and want to puke) is better than Maker's 46 Bourbon or Zacapa 23 year old Rum! (neither of which compare to the BEST of their kind, IMHO: Blanton's Single Barrel and Clément 1952 Trés Vieux Rhum Agricole)

hah! well I wouldn't try to convince you of anything about booze, and while you're right about Starbucks being crap, you're still wrong about tea

Posted: **Mon Jul 20, 2020 11:12 am**

Drinks are like calibers. Everyone's got favorites, nobody's "right."

Lapsang and Islays are great if you love pine tar. I do. Don't think it'd work for coffee, but I love a good Yirgacheffe.

Posted: **Mon Jul 20, 2020 11:24 am**

wings wrote: Mon Jul 20, 2020 11:12 am Drinks are like calibers. Everyone's got favorites, nobody's "right."

Lapsang and Islays are great if you love pine tar. I do. Don't think it'd work for coffee, but I love a good Yirgacheffe.

Wet or dry processed?

Posted: **Mon Jul 20, 2020 11:38 am**

.22 dry, .45 wet.

Posted: **Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:43 pm**

Being in Texas and raised in a southern family the only tea to drink is ice tea. Now my dear mother would only make unsweet ice tea. So that is what I drink. The rest of my relatives and most of the under educated wife’s relative think the only tea to drink is sweet tea. So filled with sugar you can dip a spoon in it and the sugar will crystallize around the spoons.

Coffee I drink it black and love a great coffee. I spent over twenty years drink hospital coffee that would make navy coffee look like colored water. The best coffee I ever had was at the Mirage in Vegas smooth with a robust flavor and no burnt bean taste. The two reason people go for Starbucks coffee, one they have never had a good cup of coffee and two tat had all this crap to the coffee to mask the taste. Good coffee like good Scotch should be enjoyed straight. Maybe with the Scotch a few drops of water to make it bloom.

Posted: **Mon Jul 20, 2020 2:09 pm**

wings wrote: Mon Jul 20, 2020 11:12 am Drinks are like calibers. Everyone's got favorites, nobody's "right."

Lapsang and Islays are great if you love pine tar. I do. Don't think it'd work for coffee, but I love a good Yirgacheffe.

Ethiopian Yergacheffe coffee is smooth as silk, rich without being overpowering, with a slight winy aroma that makes your mouth water and a hint of cocoa after taste. I've been getting coffee from Swings Coffee in Alexandria, VA for 35 years.

As for iced tea, that's a whole 'nother story and I like it very much, whether unsweetened, with sugar, or the blue, pink or yellow chemical, but always with lemon. I like iced coffee (a NY favorite) but I like Iced tea better.

Posted: **Mon Jul 20, 2020 3:27 pm**

Well, I've never met a beer I did not finish at least one of. Can't say that about coffee. I sure do like grinding it in the morning and getting that first nose rush as the water makes the grounds bloom. Sometimes black. Sometimes honey. Sometimes sugar. I spent a dozen years in restaurant kitchens, so I'm flexible.

Best coffee I had as a cook was when I worked the broiler at Larry Blake's on Telegraph in Berzerkely in the mid 70's. The coffee station was right there, but near the end of the night I'd ask one of the servers for a cup of coffee. A few minutes later a cup would appear on the shelf where I put the orders up. It contained Grand Marnier.

CDFingers

Posted: **Mon Jul 20, 2020 11:07 pm**

I feel the need to clarify.

I too can appreciate a "good" coffee, although it has always smelled better to me than it tasted.

The army coffee of which I spoke was something truly abysmal, mainly because of how it was prepared on a very particular occasion. It was just instant, and if made a cup at a time, and only mildly objectionable.

We were on exercise and I had been about to dismount from the back of a Mog and turned to say something to the guy behind and stepped into thin air, faceplanting from the chest high truck bed, aside from losing several patches of bark, I twisted my right knee which blew up like a balloon.

Consequently I was temporarily assigned to the Q store and radio picket duty.
One of the cooks decided that, lacking his usual access to an electric urn for his coffee addiction, he would have the next best thing. An empty ration tin(~5lt) on the fire.
Then someone decided that rather than the embuggerance of making individual cups, it would be easier to just pour instant coffee powder into the "urn".
When the level dropped, more water and coffee was added, and this mixture simmered away for 9 days.
On the 2nd day I accidentally dropped the spoon from my KFS set into this liquid. Being assigned to the Q, I just "requisitioned" a new set.
On the final day, when we were clearing out, I emptied the coffee pot to get my spoon back, only to find that all the nickel plating was gone and there were large pits eaten into the steel.

After my first cup of this satanic goat's piss, I decided to emulate the idea for a constant source of hot water and make my tea from that.

I did however get great enjoyment from offering any visitors a coffee and watching the reactions.

I can almost hear the skin of coffee lovers crawling at this account.

Posted: **Mon Jul 20, 2020 11:22 pm**

Hey, less yak yak (tea, coffee, goat piss) more yuk yuks.

Posted: **Mon Jul 20, 2020 11:23 pm**

CDFingers wrote: Mon Jul 20, 2020 3:27 pm Well, I've never met a beer I did not finish at least one of. Can't say that about coffee. I sure do like grinding it in the morning and getting that first nose rush as the water makes the grounds bloom. Sometimes black. Sometimes honey. Sometimes sugar. I spent a dozen years in restaurant kitchens, so I'm flexible.

Best coffee I had as a cook was when I worked the broiler at Larry Blake's on Telegraph in Berzerkely in the mid 70's. The coffee station was right there, but near the end of the night I'd ask one of the servers for a cup of coffee. A few minutes later a cup would appear on the shelf where I put the orders up. It contained Grand Marnier.

CDFingers

Grand Marnier will definitely improve even mediocre coffee! But not first thing in the morning!

Posted: **Mon Jul 20, 2020 11:29 pm**

Gaznazdiak wrote: Mon Jul 20, 2020 11:07 pm I feel the need to clarify.

I too can appreciate a "good" coffee, although it has always smelled better to me than it tasted.

The army coffee of which I spoke was something truly abysmal, mainly because of how it was prepared on a very particular occasion. It was just instant, and if made a cup at a time, and only mildly objectionable.

We were on exercise and I had been about to dismount from the back of a Mog and turned to say something to the guy behind and stepped into thin air, faceplanting from the chest high truck bed, aside from losing several patches of bark, I twisted my right knee which blew up like a balloon.

Consequently I was temporarily assigned to the Q store and radio picket duty.
One of the cooks decided that, lacking his usual access to an electric urn for his coffee addiction, he would have the next best thing. An empty ration tin(~5lt) on the fire.
Then someone decided that rather than the embuggerance of making individual cups, it would be easier to just pour instant coffee powder into the "urn".
When the level dropped, more water and coffee was added, and this mixture simmered away for 9 days.
On the 2nd day I accidentally dropped the spoon from my KFS set into this liquid. Being assigned to the Q, I just "requisitioned" a new set.
On the final day, when we were clearing out, I emptied the coffee pot to get my spoon back, only to find that all the nickel plating was gone and there were large pits eaten into the steel.

After my first cup of this satanic goat's piss, I decided to emulate the idea for a constant source of hot water and make my tea from that.

I did however get great enjoyment from offering any visitors a coffee and watching the reactions.

I can almost hear the skin of coffee lovers crawling at this account.

Oh goodness. that had me nearly doing a spit-take, Gaz!

Hell, with that SHIT even I would prefer tea! Instant C-rap cannot be given the appellation "coffee"!
With a one-cup melitta or other filter and boiling water I can still make a perfect cup nearly as fast as instant C-rap--UGH!!!!
I shudder to think you actually drank that stuff--I expect it was like Trump's insane rec that we drink bleach!

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Posted: **Tue Jul 21, 2020 6:26 am**

Thanks Gaz. Needed those.

Posted: **Tue Jul 21, 2020 8:56 am**

Bucolic wrote: Tue Jul 21, 2020 6:26 am Thanks Gaz. Needed those.

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