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Darwinchip wrote:

TrueTexan wrote:

lurker wrote:i'd bet we can come up with some more imaginative theories, and make them look plausible. and if we keep repeating them, someone will believe them..

Hillary did it.

You're close with this one, but it's actually time traveling future Hillary. About 10 years from now she's still upset about not winning the election so she steals the world's only time machine and comes back to exact her revenge. That's why Republicans are so focused on her (current Hillary), they know everything negative about them and Trump is actually her (future Hillary) doings.

Some have questioned why she didn't just adjust the election results to give herself the presidency but... Did you hear that? It sounded like the rustle of a pantsuit... Oh no, I've said too much!

Let me guess - she keeps her time machine in Benghazi?

AndyH wrote:Let me guess - she keeps her time machine in Benghazi?

Too obvious. She has a network of pizzerias that all have basements. The time machine is programmed to jump from one to the next on a set schedule to keep it from being discovered. (It can also perform an emergency jump should certain warning conditions be met.)

Edit: Benghazi is, however, where she keeps the surplus fuel for the time machine.

AndyH wrote:

Darwinchip wrote:

TrueTexan wrote:

lurker wrote:i'd bet we can come up with some more imaginative theories, and make them look plausible. and if we keep repeating them, someone will believe them..

Hillary did it.

You're close with this one, but it's actually time traveling future Hillary. About 10 years from now she's still upset about not winning the election so she steals the world's only time machine and comes back to exact her revenge. That's why Republicans are so focused on her (current Hillary), they know everything negative about them and Trump is actually her (future Hillary) doings.

Some have questioned why she didn't just adjust the election results to give herself the presidency but... Did you hear that? It sounded like the rustle of a pantsuit... Oh no, I've said too much!

Let me guess - she keeps her time machine in Benghazi?

Your wrong. The future Hillary became president bathed to come back after a sex change operation as Donald Trump to extract revenge for not electing her instead of Obama and insure she would be president.

You forgot about Bat Boy's role in all this...

Laugh if you like. Just ask yourself why, after 54 years, there are still JFK files that are too hot to release to the public, even though a law was passed to release them, but the CIA and FBI talked Trump into withholding them. Nothing to see here folks, keep it moving.

By the way, the hard drive from the laptop found in Paddock's room is missing. Here is the official explanation:

“Investigators suspect gunman Stephen Paddock removed the hard drive from the laptop after (he) opened fire from his high-rise suite at the Mandalay Bay hotel-casino into a crowd at a country music concert, killing 58 people and wounded hundreds of others, the official said.”

https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/nationa ... 22043.html

And then he went to the post office and mailed it, or hid it somewhere where the FBI couldn't find it, went back to his room and committed suicide?

Witnesses claiming there were multiple shooters. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqaDxGUxA1k

Lee harvey oswald killed JFK at the behest of the soviets. How do people still not understand this. Dude defects to the soviet union, suddenly comes back then kills JFK.... simple.

SilasSoule wrote:Laugh if you like. Just ask yourself ...

People often say silly things when they don't yet have the answer. Best not to fan the flames if one doesn't want to end up working at FoxNoise or MSNBC.

wanzer777 wrote:Lee harvey oswald killed JFK at the behest of the soviets. How do people still not understand this. Dude defects to the soviet union, suddenly comes back then kills JFK.... simple.

Actually, according to the newly released documents Soviet leaders were extremely concerned and thought JFK's assassination was a right-wing coup by anti-Soviet hardliners.

"The news of the assassination of President Kennedy was flashed to the Soviet people almost immediately after its occurrence. It was greeted by great shock and consternation and church bells were tolled in the memory of President Kennedy," a Dec. 1, 1966 document said.

The top secret file details how Soviet leaders believed a "well-organized conspiracy on the part of the 'ultraright'" in the U.S. was responsible for Kennedy's death, not a single person. Lee Harvey Oswald, described as a "neurotic maniac" who was "disloyal," was not connected to the Soviet Union, according to an unnamed source."

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"Soviet leaders feared "without leadership, some irresponsible general in the United States might launch a missile at the Soviet Union," the document states. The KGB, Soviet intelligence agency, was also instructed to gather intelligence on Lyndon B. Johnson, who was largely unknown there, and his connection to the Kennedy family."

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/wor ... 809966001/

SilasSoule wrote:

wanzer777 wrote:Lee harvey oswald killed JFK at the behest of the soviets. How do people still not understand this. Dude defects to the soviet union, suddenly comes back then kills JFK.... simple.

Actually,

in las vegas.

It's Las Vegas you schmucks!

ELVIS MUST BE INVOLVED!

Can we bring it back to LV shooting related? Law enforcement reports, documented news articles, and such.

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Xela wrote:Can we bring it back to LV shooting related? Law enforcement reports, documented news articles, and such.

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Go ahead - whatcha got?

AndyH wrote:

Xela wrote:Can we bring it back to LV shooting related? Law enforcement reports, documented news articles, and such.

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Go ahead - whatcha got?

Moderator gotta moderate!

There is the matter of the brain:

Las Vegas Gunman’s Brain Will Be Scrutinized for Clues to the Killing
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/26/us/l ... brain.html

AFTER LAS VEGAS, SEARCHING FOR MEANING IN A KILLER'S BRAIN (their caps, not mine)
https://www.wired.com/story/las-vegas-brain/

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Xela wrote:There is the matter of the brain:

Las Vegas Gunman’s Brain Will Be Scrutinized for Clues to the Killing
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/26/us/l ... brain.html

AFTER LAS VEGAS, SEARCHING FOR MEANING IN A KILLER'S BRAIN (their caps, not mine)
https://www.wired.com/story/las-vegas-brain/

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This seems like BS to me. 21st century phrenology.

Sheriff give interview:

“There is a lot of people that have hundreds and hundreds of guns, but for this individual to do it at a certain point in time and to do it all with such robust action, you would think that Ms. Danley would have some information associated with that,” he said. “But currently we haven’t been able to pull that out of her, if it’s in her.”

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"No motive for the Oct. 1 shooting has been revealed yet, but Lombardo said that since September 2015, Paddock – a high-rolling gambler – had lost a significant amount of wealth.

“I think that might have a determining factor on what he determined to do,” Lombardo said.

The sheriff said Paddock was narcissistic, had some bouts of depression and was very status-driven, based on how he liked to be recognized in the casinos and by his family and friends, which was starting to decline."

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"Paddock fired off more than 1,000 rounds of ammunition from his room at the Mandalay Bay Resort and Casino and had access to over 4,000 more, Lombardo told KLAS.

The shooting spree stopped after, according to Lombardo’s belief, Paddock realized the authorities were closing in.

“I believe the suspect believed the wolf was at the door and took his own life,” Lombardo said.

A hard drive that was missing from one of Paddock’s laptops found in the room after police entered has still not been recovered.

“The hard drive was not located in the room,” Lombardo said. “We may never know where that hard drive is. It could have been removed years ago.”"

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/11/02/la ... gests.html

So I'm not a computer whiz, but carrying around a laptop without a hard drive would be rather pointless, eh?

I'm also sure Paddock is not the first person to lose a lot of money in Las Vegas, but he is the first millionaire to go on a mass killing spree, if we are to believe the official version of events.

Sorry, I'm still putting my bet on the conspiracy theory about him being involved in an arms dealing sting.

SilasSoule wrote:So I'm not a computer whiz, but carrying around a laptop without a hard drive would be rather pointless, eh?

Don't need a hard drive. Linux on a USB drive, for one easy example.

More evidence emerges that Paddock may have been an arms dealer.

""For a thrill try out bumpfire ar's with 100 round magazine." Investigators at the time of the filing had been unable to determine if Paddock was sending emails between two accounts both belonging to himself, or was communicating with someone else."

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/01/12/us/l ... index.html

Investigators claim Paddock made extensive efforts to conceal his attack plans and THWART THE SUBSEQUENT INQUIRY by investigators.

"As he meticulously planned the Las Vegas attack, the man responsible for the worst mass shooting in modern American history took elaborate steps to stymie the inevitable law enforcement investigation, according to federal court documents unsealed on Friday.... “Paddock planned the attack meticulously and took many methodical steps to avoid detection of his plot and to thwart the eventual law enforcement investigation that would follow,” the F.B.I. said."

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/12/us/l ... ddock.html

But he checked into the hotel under his own name, driving his own car, and left a room full of his own firearms and ammunition behind in his hotel room. Evil genius or was the attack not what it appears to be?

AndyH wrote:

SilasSoule wrote:So I'm not a computer whiz, but carrying around a laptop without a hard drive would be rather pointless, eh?

Don't need a hard drive. Linux on a USB drive, for one easy example.

Or Linux on a DVD with an external optical drive. I use a Linux DVD and external optical drive to diagnose problems from malware to broken hardware.

I'm sure people on this message board or maybe even this thread have asked this question before. Why does the main stream media call an AR-15 a high powered rifle? It's not. A high powered rifle is a long range, flat trajectory, rifle that is accurate out to and beyond 1000 yards. The AR-15 doesn't come close.

harriss wrote:Why does the main stream media call an AR-15 a high powered rifle?

To make the story more dramatic and advance the scary black rifle narrative.

It dovetails nicely with the VPC's plan for the term "assault weapon" which at this point must have exceeded the organization's expectations.

One recent report said the FBI found child pornography on one of his computers. Is there a connection between kiddy porn and his gun collection? Did his gambling finance an addiction to child pornography? He may have been part of a child porn ring and he may have felt that law enforcement was close to cracking the ring.http://abcnews.go.com/US/las-vegas-gunm ... d=52467413

And one Republican congressman is peddling the story that Paddock had an Islamic State connection.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nati ... story.html

DispositionMatrix wrote:

harriss wrote:Why does the main stream media call an AR-15 a high powered rifle?

To make the story more dramatic and advance the scary black rifle narrative.

It dovetails nicely with the VPC's plan for the term "assault weapon" which at this point must have exceeded the organization's expectations.

I looked for a definition of "High Power" a few years ago and most of the definitions I found centered around competitive rifle shooting. Separating Small Bore class (or Rimfire) and High Power class. So by that definition, yes, 5.56 is high power.

I would agree that most journalists who use the phrase "high power" couldn't give a definition.

so, what about .17hmr?

Las Vegas police fired additional shots in Stephen Paddock’s room after finding him dead. “11:20 p.m.: Police use explosives to blow open Paddock’s door, and they discover him dead. 11:26 p.m.: Police breach the interior door to Paddock’s second room, where a police officer accidentally fires three rounds into the room.” http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-las ... story.html Just another odd twist in a continually changing story.