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Folks against these idiots are using social media to track them and identify them. Many stories now of some of them getting fired and so on, found on facebook, hounded, grounded, and pounded.

Now they know why the KKK wore hoods. Shame. Shame. Shame.

Remember Woodie Guthrie's guitar.

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One interesting quote from King County Executive Dow Constantine:

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True, that: they lost, they're losing, and they're losers.

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^^^ Wow, impressive use of social media to identify those who are proudly marching for White Power to their employers...
"It is better to be violent, if there is violence in our hearts, than to put on the cloak of non-violence to cover impotence. There is hope for a violent man to become non-violent. There is no such hope for the impotent." -Gandhi

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The Stormer ran a eulogy for Heather on their site which, by the way, GoDaddy has given them 24 hrs to find a new server.

.These Pepe the Frog fuckers are a real classy bunch.
Stormer article on Heather.jpg
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JColville wrote:The Stormer ran a eulogy for Heather on their site which, by the way, GoDaddy has given them 24 hrs to find a new server.

.These Pepe the Frog fuckers are a real classy bunch.
Stormer article on Heather.jpg
"Fat and a drain on society"

They just described 99% of their followers.

Hope no other hosting site will give them space..
Although Putin might give them some space on a Russian server.
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CEO of Merck resigns from Trump's Council over The Orange Ones lack of response on racism and violence in Charlottesville, Virginia. But of course the Orange Blob attacks the man over twitter.
WASHINGTON ― A CEO serving on President Donald Trump’s council on manufacturing announced his resignation early Monday from the White House panel, in protest of Trump’s continued silence on the white nationalist groups who incited Saturday’s deadly violence in Charlottesville, Virginia.

Ken Frazier, the head of Merck pharmaceuticals, said in a statement he was stepping down “as a matter of personal conscience” and “to take a stand against intolerance and extremism.”

In response, Trump ― who has yet to personally denounce the far-right groups who sparked Saturday’s deadly carnage in Charlottesville ― directly attacked Frazier on Twitter.

His tweet was one of several posted on Monday morning, ranging from attacking “obstructionist Democrats” to pledging he would work on “trade and military” and reiterating his support for Sen. Luther Strange (R-Ala.), who is squaring off against several opponents in a GOP primary on Tuesday, to

None of his tweets addressed the weekend’s violence.

After Trump on Saturday had blamed “many sides” for the hatred that led to the violence in Charlottesville, the White House on Sunday said in a statement that “of course” that included “white supremacists, KKK Neo-Nazi and all extremist groups.”

Still, the statement was attributed to an unnamed spokesperson, not to Trump himself.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/tru ... mg00000009
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The Orange One finally gave a half assed condemnation of the Racist gathering and violence at Charlottesville, VA.
It took more than 48 hours, but President Donald Trump finally denounced the white supremacist groups whose rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, this past weekend sparked deadly violence.

But his Monday proclamation that “racism is evil” means little coming from a man who largely has not backed away from the racism upon which he built both his campaign and his real estate business.

Not only did Trump’s condemnation pale in comparison to those from lawmakers on both sides of the aisle, celebrities and even the maker of the tiki torches used at the rally, but it also came after he blamed “many sides” for the violent protest.

Throughout his campaign and after his election, HuffPost kept running lists of examples of Trump’s racism dating as far back as the 1970s. We’ll continue to document those incidents here as they happen.

Since winning the election, Trump has picked top advisers and cabinet officials whose careers are checkered by accusations of racially biased behavior.

Steve Bannon, Trump’s chief strategist and senior counselor, was executive chairman of Breitbart, a news site that Bannon dubbed the “home of the alt-right” ― a euphemism that describes a loose coalition of white supremacists and aligned groups. Under Bannon’s leadership, Breitbart increased its accommodation of openly racist and anti-Semitic writing, capitalizing on the rise of white nationalism prompted by Trump’s campaign.

Retired Lt. Gen. Mike Flynn ― who worked as Trump’s national security adviser until resigning in February amid revelations that he discussed U.S. sanctions against Russia with that country’s ambassador ― has drawn scrutiny for anti-Muslim comments he has made over the years. In February, Flynn tweeted that “fear of Muslims is rational.” Over the summer, he said that there is a “diseased component inside the Islamic world” that is like a “cancer.” Flynn has defended Trump’s past proposal of banning Muslim immigration and suggested he would be open to reviving torture techniques like waterboarding.

In addition, Trump has nominated Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-Ala.) to be attorney general of the United States. The Senate refused to confirm Sessions as a federal judge in 1986 amid accusations that he’d made racially insensitive comments, including that the only reason he hadn’t joined the Ku Klux Klan was because members of the extremist group smoked marijuana. Civil rights groups condemned Trump’s nomination of Sessions, while leading white nationalists celebrated it.

And Steve Mnuchin, who Trump tapped to serve as Treasury secretary, faces allegations of profiting from racial discrimination. As a hedge fund manager, Mnuchin purchased a troubled mortgage bank, sped up its foreclosure rate and sold it for a killing several years later. Along the way, Mnuchin’s bank came under fire from housing rights groups for racist practices like lending to very few people of color and maintaining foreclosed-upon properties in neighborhoods that were predominantly black and brown less than in white neighborhoods.

While the hate speech and racist violence emboldened by his campaign only escalated after his win, Trump downplayed the incidents and half-heartedly denounced them.

There were nearly 900 hate incidents across the U.S. in the 10 days following the election, a report released last month by the Southern Poverty Law Center found. Those attacks include vandals drawing swastikas on a synagogue, schools, cars and driveways; an assailant beating a gay man while saying the “president says we can kill all you faggots now”; and children telling their black classmates to sit in the back of the school bus.

In nearly 40 percent of those incidents, the SPLC found, people explicitly invoked the president-elect’s name or his campaign slogans.

The Council on American-Islamic Relations and the Anti-Defamation League have also tracked significant growth in racist and bigoted attacks.

“We’ve seen a great deal of really troubling stuff in the last week, a spike in harassment, a spike in vandalism, physical assaults. Something is happening that was not happening before,” ADL national director Jonathan Greenblatt told The New Yorker.

Despite those findings, Trump insisted on CBS’ “60 Minutes” the Sunday after his election that there had only been “a very small amount” of racist incidents.

“I am so saddened to hear that,” Trump said when asked about the racist incidents. “And I say, ‘Stop it.’ If it helps, I will say this, and I will say right to the camera: ‘Stop it.’”

He also accused the media of overstating the attacks.

“I think it’s built up by the press because, frankly, they’ll take every single little incident that they can find in this country, which could’ve been there before ― if I weren’t even around doing this ― and they’ll make it into an event, because that’s the way the press is,” he said.

Trump’s denouncement of hate-fueled violence was relatively mild, especially compared to the zeal with which he routinely attacks other targets ― like, say, “Saturday Night Live,” or the cast of “Hamilton,” who addressed Vice president-elect Mike Pence at a recent performance in New York that Pence attended.

“[Trump] hits the news media when he thinks there’s a story that’s unfair, he tweets when he is outraged about something in the media,” CNN host Wolf Blitzer said last month, after Trump criticized the cast of “Hamilton” for singling out Pence, whom the audience also booed. “But he doesn’t seem to go out of the way to express his outrage over people hailing him with Nazi salutes.”
And on and on with more racist actions for many years from the Orange One.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/tru ... mg00000009
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"We can have democracy in this country, or we can have great wealth concentrated in the hands of a few, but we can't have both." ~ Louis Brandeis,

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Just hours after GoDaddy kicked them out Google Domains has done the same thing to the Daily Stomer.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/goo ... mg00000009

Would be nice if a hacker could make it when somebody clicked to go to that sites name it would redirect them to the ACLU, NAACP, SPLC or the FBI’s domestic terrorist page.
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"We can have democracy in this country, or we can have great wealth concentrated in the hands of a few, but we can't have both." ~ Louis Brandeis,

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Got to love Ken Fisher and the other CEO's that supported him or made comments in support of his position ... even some of the republican senators, Sessions did not disappoint me.. figured he would try to keep the feds out of this.. but got his peepee wacked and had to send the FBI.

I think this may be a far bigger deal than the news of the moment.. Sad that it had to happen this way.. Heather Heyer is a martyr and will be remembered.

Love the way Trump screwed the pooch on this.

the thing I feel a lack of is that all this about Trump and dog whistles .. is the failure to mention he directly tweeted blatant hate against Transgenders with his military service ban stuff.. That, and the "Hispanic Judge" that shouldn't rule on his case. the characterization of the undocumented immigrants as murderers and rapist are all direct hate speech along with mocking disabled, dissing POW's The list of direct hate tweets is long, bloody women nasty women Moslem refugees stereotyped as terrorists ... you don't have to looking between the bushes for Spicy and dog whistle coded phrases...
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Any comments about the "Oathkeepers" showing up with guns. Apparently they believe they have the moral high ground here when it comes to determining Constitutional rights. Vigilantes. How could anything go wrong? :sarcasm:
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AndyH wrote:Next rally appears to be planned for Texas A&M on 9/11.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/14/us/texas- ... index.html
Just heard on TPR that this "white lives matter" rally's been squashed.

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/educati ... y-concerns
Texas A&M has cancelled an upcoming rally that promoted an appearance of "alt-right" figure Richard Spencer on Sept. 11th.

University officials issued a statement saying it was doing so because of safety concerns.

"On December 6, 2016 the university and law enforcement allowed the same speaker the opportunity to share his views, taking all of the necessary precautions to ensure a peaceful event," university officials said in a statement. "However, in this case, circumstances and information relating to the event have changed and the risks of threat to life and safety compel us to cancel the event."

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The system administrator of Daily Stormer, a white supremacist hate site that called Charlottesville victim Heather Heyer vile names, is allegedly planning to send followers to the slain paralegal’s funeral, according to a screenshot of a conversation posted to Twitter.
http://heavy.com/news/2017/08/daily-sto ... ernheimer/

This makes my blood boil. I truly wish I could attend her funeral to show support and stand against these scumbags.

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Compare Trump’s muted reaction to Charlottesville with his animated response last December to a similar incident in Columbus, another college town where an extremist plowed a car into a crowd of people. Abdul Razak Ali Artan, an Ohio State University student, drove a Honda sedan through a crowd outside a school building last November before emerging from the vehicle and slashing at people with a butcher knife. As president-elect, Trump flew to OSU to meet with survivors and praise the cop who shot the attacker. “This is a great honor for me today,” Trump told reporters during the visit. “We’re in a fantastic state that I love, Ohio.” One big difference: Artan was a Somali Muslim refugee. It's not even clear Trump has tried to call the mother of Charlottesville victim Heather Heyer.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/pow ... 3811d6941/
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Not surprised, but find it telling that Orange Spore only tweeted about Merck CEO and not the others that quit for his spineless initial babbling statement. Suspect it has something to do with his race.
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Now after condemning the actions of the Alt Right and calling out racist groups by name, The Orange Spore has done his usual flip flop to gain support of the Alt right crowd.
President Donald Trump spoke again Tuesday on the white supremacist conflict in Charlottesville, Virginia, defending his much-criticized initial statement on the protests and offering an even stronger critique of demonstrators and the causes they fought for during the violent weekend gathering.

During remarks at Trump Tower, the president blasted protesters “on both sides” of the conflict in Charlottesville, echoing his initial statement that there was hatred “on many sides.”

“You had a group on one side who was bad, and you had a group on the other side that was also very violent, and nobody wants to say that, but I’ll say it right now,” Trump said, referring to white supremacists, anti-fascists known as “antifa” and counterprotesters who converged in Charlottesville over the weekend. “You had a group on the other side that came charging in without a permit, and they were very, very violent.”

Trump explained why he wasn’t quick to condemn any specific people in his initial statement on the protests.

“You have people who are very fine people on both sides,” Trump said.

He argued he was waiting on “the facts” Saturday before condemning white supremacists.

“I wanted to make sure, unlike most politicians, that what I said was correct, not make a quick statement. The statement I made on Saturday, the first statement, was a fine statement, but you don’t make statements that direct unless you know the facts,” Trump argued. “It takes a little while to get the facts. You still don’t know the facts. It is a very, very important process to me. It is a very important statement. So I don’t want to go quickly and just make a statement for the sake of making a political statement. I want to know the facts.”

Trump stayed silent until Saturday afternoon on the situation in Charlottesville, which began heating up with white supremacist marches Friday night. His response ― which followed that of his wife, Melania, the first from the White House to comment on the protests ― was a rebuke of hatred “on many sides.”

“We condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious display of hatred, bigotry and violence on many sides ― on many sides,” Trump said at a ceremony for the signing of a bill to reform the Veterans Affairs health care system. “It’s been going on for a long time in our country, not Donald Trump, not Barack Obama. It’s been going on for a long, long time.”

Trump said Tuesday his initial remarks were described as “beautiful.” However, he was widely panned for failing to call out hate groups, prompting even some Republican lawmakers to criticize his remarks.

On Monday ― three days after the events in Charlottesville began and two days after a car driven by a white supremacist plowed into a group of counterprotesters and killed a woman ― Trump finally condemned hate groups in a press conference where he appeared rigid, carefully reading his statement from a teleprompter.

But on Tuesday, Trump issued his strongest statement yet, pointing blame at groups who showed up to demonstrate against the white supremacists who organized in Charlottesville to protest the removal of a statue of Robert E. Lee, a Confederate general.

“What about the alt-left that came charging at the, as you say, ‘alt-right’? Do they have any semblance of guilt?” Trump asked reporters. “What about the fact that they came charging with clubs in their hands, swinging clubs? Do they have any problem? I think they do.”

During his remarks Tuesday, the president argued taking down Confederate statues, such as the Lee statue, could lead to the removal of statues of other historic figures, such as George Washington or Thomas Jefferson.

“You really do have to ask yourself, where does it stop?” Trump said.

He also defended those in his administration who have ties to white nationalism, including senior adviser Steve Bannon.

Ever the businessman, Trump also took the opportunity to plug his winery in Virginia before leaving the press conference, saying it’s the reason he knows a lot about Charlottesville.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/tru ... mg00000009

But what could we expect from the The Orange Slime One with its history of Racism.
Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored.-Huxley
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When has that piece of orange crap ever cared about facts and spoken with restraint?

Very, very violent? Hell yes- because fucking Nazis! Nazis Talking about killing Jews. Jews like my wife.

Killing Nazis is not hate, it's my peoples heritage.
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