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Re: welding thread

Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 10:57 am
by TrueTexan
eelj wrote:Almost forgot about this thread, I'm no expert, just a DIY type of person.

I ended up buying a Hobart 210 MVP. Bought a 20lb co2 bottle and did a lot of fabricating this past year. I'm glad that I went with a transformer machine, the inverters may be great but are as throw away as iphones and computers, plus the capacitors like to be used everyday or they wear out quicker. Transformers just keep working.

It's a strange addiction, where ever I go I tend to look at the welds on steel and aluminium structures, I tend to fantasize about all of the equipment for fabricating I feel that I need.

I think people should avoid this addiction and get involved in something less destructive, like sex, gambling, alcohol or narcotics addiction.
Guns and reloading.

Re: welding thread

Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 11:02 am
by eelj
TrueTexan wrote:
eelj wrote:Almost forgot about this thread, I'm no expert, just a DIY type of person.

I ended up buying a Hobart 210 MVP. Bought a 20lb co2 bottle and did a lot of fabricating this past year. I'm glad that I went with a transformer machine, the inverters may be great but are as throw away as iphones and computers, plus the capacitors like to be used everyday or they wear out quicker. Transformers just keep working.

It's a strange addiction, where ever I go I tend to look at the welds on steel and aluminium structures, I tend to fantasize about all of the equipment for fabricating I feel that I need.

I think people should avoid this addiction and get involved in something less destructive, like sex, gambling, alcohol or narcotics addiction.
Guns and reloading.
I've actually considered selling all of my guns and reloading equipment so I could buy a new plasma cutter and mag drill with a complete set of annular cutters.

I should get counseling.

Re: welding thread

Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 11:08 am
by BKinzey
michellemacdroff wrote:I suggest you to go through the internet search. There are many websites available on the internet where you can find the best result. Or you can take an expert's advice too. Welding, without the proper precautions appropriate for the process, can be a dangerous and unhealthy practice.
Suspicious post. :( Reported.

Re: welding thread

Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 1:25 pm
by YankeeTarheel
eelj wrote:
TrueTexan wrote:
eelj wrote:Almost forgot about this thread, I'm no expert, just a DIY type of person.

I ended up buying a Hobart 210 MVP. Bought a 20lb co2 bottle and did a lot of fabricating this past year. I'm glad that I went with a transformer machine, the inverters may be great but are as throw away as iphones and computers, plus the capacitors like to be used everyday or they wear out quicker. Transformers just keep working.

It's a strange addiction, where ever I go I tend to look at the welds on steel and aluminium structures, I tend to fantasize about all of the equipment for fabricating I feel that I need.

I think people should avoid this addiction and get involved in something less destructive, like sex, gambling, alcohol or narcotics addiction.
Guns and reloading.
I've actually considered selling all of my guns and reloading equipment so I could buy a new plasma cutter and mag drill with a complete set of annular cutters.

I should get counseling.
Nah. You're not hunting unicorns or 5 million invisible illegal voters. Yet.

Re: welding thread

Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 5:53 pm
by lurker
i reluctantly admit to owning a 120v chinese stick welder. i've even used it once or twice.

Re: welding thread

Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 9:22 pm
by YankeeTarheel
lurker wrote:i reluctantly admit to owning a 120v chinese stick welder. i've even used it once or twice.
Hey! Did it work? If you barely use it, and it's cheap, might as well!

Re: welding thread

Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 9:49 pm
by lurker
YankeeTarheel wrote:
lurker wrote:i reluctantly admit to owning a 120v chinese stick welder. i've even used it once or twice.
Hey! Did it work? If you barely use it, and it's cheap, might as well!
yes, it did. i used it to repair a mower deck.tricky though. there's a learning curve and the skill is perishable.i had a better one in the late 70s which i used to make motor mounts for my small block chevy LUV truck.

i have a garage half full of tools i've used once or twice, and a couple i thought i might use. pickle forks, pullers, diagnostic equipment.. chances are i'll never use 3/4ths of it again.

Re: welding thread

Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 9:56 pm
by YankeeTarheel
lurker wrote:
YankeeTarheel wrote:
lurker wrote:i reluctantly admit to owning a 120v chinese stick welder. i've even used it once or twice.
Hey! Did it work? If you barely use it, and it's cheap, might as well!
yes, it did. i used it to repair a mower deck.tricky though. there's a learning curve and the skill is perishable.i had a better one in the late 70s which i used to make motor mounts for my small block chevy LUV truck.

i have a garage half full of tools i've used once or twice, and a couple i thought i might use. pickle forks, pullers, diagnostic equipment.. chances are i'll never use 3/4ths of it again.
I have plenty of tools like that, some of which I've never even used at all! I'm thinking of a peculiar "Cutawl Machine", for example:
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I've had a Sherline miniature vertical mill and a mini-lathe, I've had for almost 15 years. I used the lathe a few weeks ago for the first time! :D

Re: welding thread

Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 10:31 pm
by lurker
YankeeTarheel wrote:plenty of tools like that,
if i remember, tomorrow i'll go out and take pictures and we can challenge the young kids to identify them! :yahoo:

Re: welding thread

Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 10:58 pm
by YankeeTarheel
lurker wrote:
YankeeTarheel wrote:plenty of tools like that,
if i remember, tomorrow i'll go out and take pictures and we can challenge the young kids to identify them! :yahoo:
Ha! They'll get stuck on a typewriter, dial phone, and AM radio! :roflmao:

Re: welding thread

Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 8:21 am
by YankeeTarheel
BTW, that super-cheap H-F wire feed 90amp 110v welder is at the lowest price ever this weekend: $79. That's what I fixed my pool's superstructure with.

Re: welding thread

Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 10:09 am
by eelj
That cutawl is very cool. Most of the tools I have accumulated have been because of a special need.

Also not all tools belong in a garage, I consider my Kitchen Aide mixer and Atlas pasta maker to be prized tools and have paid for themselves many times over.

That cutawl would be cool if you could adapt that to a plasma cutter and cut patterns out of a sheet of 1/2" steel, would have to be cheaper that a 15,000 dollar plasma cam.

Re: welding thread

Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 2:21 pm
by zzrguy
Had a blue miller in my old shop for 20 plus years and I got it used never had a issue with it.

Re: welding thread

Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2018 11:10 am
by Bang
I wouldn't know what to do with a welder in my house, I'd only use it for art and I'm not very artistic.

Re: welding thread

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 2:35 am
by Vionnyema
I use C.M.T Pitbull Ultra-Portable 100-Amp Electric Arc Welder - 110V https://mechanicguides.com/best-cheap-welders-money/ . This is a great little welder. I'm certainly no pro, but I grew up using a standard Lincoln arc welder (220 volts) on small projects. This welder is really like a small version of that welder.

My concern was that it would not have adequate current to weld by just using a 110 outlet, OR that my breaker box would keep tripping when using this on my garage circuit. I have had no issues whatsoever. I recently had to weld a crack in a cast iron header on my Chevy Trailblazer (and I've never welded cast iron before). I used this welder set on about "half" power, used a couple of nickel / cast iron rods (which I bought from Amazon - Hot Max 23313), and viola, I welded up the crack! Now it doesn't look pretty ... if a header could get metallic skin cancer, that is what my weld job looks like. But heck, it does the job, and only took 10 minutes and saved me hundreds on a new exhaust (and many hours of labor).

The welder comes with a small combo tool that has a bristle brush and a "hammer" tip to clean up welds. I doubt I'll use the welder more than once every couple of years, but in a pinch, it works GREAT, and for the money is an incredible buy. Weekend warriors only need to get some welding rods, leather gloves, and adequate eye protection and you'll be good to go (do NOT do this at home, but I gave away my welding mask long ago, so I used two layers of sunglasses and tried not to look directly at the weld ... not an easy task!).

In summary - VERY highly recommended!

Re: welding thread

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 3:57 am
by SubRosa
'Tain't been any 110 Volt power in the US since before most of you were born. 220 neither.

120/240 single phase
120/208 three phase
277/480 " "

Get with the program...

Yer friendly electrical nazi.

Re: welding thread

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 11:14 am
by TrueTexan
SubRosa wrote: Tue Dec 04, 2018 3:57 am 'Tain't been any 110 Volt power in the US since before most of you were born. 220 neither.

120/240 single phase
120/208 three phase
277/480 " "

Get with the program...

Yer friendly electrical nazi.
But I remember 110 also house built with only two prong outlets. My first house built about the time I was born ha a fuse box with two fuses. My next house built in 1962 had a breaker box with 6 beakers. My dad’s house next door had 4 breakers and two of them were for the dryer. 220 volt. My house today built two years ago have 30 circuit breakers. The one area builder still skimp on plugs is the garage. I had extras added to the garage when the house was built. They were only going to have three useable plugs in the garage.

Re: welding thread

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 5:10 pm
by YankeeTarheel
When my house was built, the builder, who does his job best when he never touches a tool or climbs a ladder, put only two outlets in the ENTIRE basement! We we had our kitchen re-done and needed a new panel put it, I had the electrician put 4-gang 20 amp outlets all over the basement--at least 5 or 6 of them.

So what kind of (competent) builder can't touch a tool? One with great vision, observation, planning& mgt skills, knowledge, a great roladex...and 10 thumbs and 2 left feet! He actually built the house for himself and his family and lived in it 10 years. He climbed a ladder a couple of years ago--and fell off injuring himself badly, the klutz!

Here's a crazy thought: Whenever you remodel a bathroom, have the electrician install a GFI outlet low, near the commode. Then, if you want to install a PHS (for a heated seat and electric bidet) like a Swash, it's a 10-15 minute job.