The Liberal Gun Club Forum

This is a definitely a double face palm.

old son of Justin Ryan Jones said his father was pretending to fire at his sister when the gun went off and he shot the 9-year-old girl, according to an arrest affidavit.

Jones, 30, of Austin is charged with injury to a child, a first-degree felony, and remained in the Bell County Jail on Monday in lieu of $25,000 bail, jail records showed.

Jones reportedly told a Bell County Sheriff’s Department deputy he was showing his children gun safety when the gun he was holding fired and shot his 9-year-old daughter.

But Jones’ son said his father was pretending to shoot them.

The 7-year-old said he liked the clicking sound the gun made. He said his father pulled the trigger and “his sister was shot,” the affidavit said.

Jones’ other son, age 6, said his father was pointing the gun at his sister and held it in both hands while pretending to shoot them.

The girl was shot in the upper chest area and was initially in critical condition when transported to Baylor Scott and White Memorial Hospital. The injuries she had led to several surgeries, but she was recently released from the hospital and is expected to fully recover, Lt. T.J. Cruz, Bell County spokesman, said Friday.

Jones was allowed to go to the hospital with his daughter after the shooting because he was so upset after the incident, Cruz said.

The father was watching his children in their grandparent’s home in the 5200 block of Indian Springs Road when the shooting happened. The children live with their grandparents, Cruz said.

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Some people should not be allowed to handle anything more dangerous than a spoon and that only under close supervision.

If he's convicted of that felony, he would not be able to legally possess any firearm, which serves him right.

The kids live with the grandparents. How about you sell your guns and take care of your kids already?

Sorry, reminds me of some relatives. Money for everything but their main responsibilities in life.

These are the morons responsible for creating the conflict I have with my family over my carry. My sister has decided she simply can't come to my house anymore since there are guns. It's unfortunate, and makes me sad since I value our relationship. She sees these types of reports in the news and thinks that if guns are kept in a home, there's the opportunity for children to be shot. I have tried to point out that a responsible parent keeps loaded weapons away from children, and then properly instructs them on safe usage. This is the same as when we've taught our children about hunting, except with handguns.

As for this father? Complete dumb-ass.

TrueTexan wrote: Some people should not be allowed to handle anything more dangerous than a spoon and that only under close supervision.

And how do you filter out these people before they can get their hands on a gun through a store or show? I believe people should be assessed before they are allowed to touch a gun.

You poo pooed that, so do you have a plan?

RobertS wrote:

TrueTexan wrote: Some people should not be allowed to handle anything more dangerous than a spoon and that only under close supervision.

And how do you filter out these people before they can get their hands on a gun through a store or show? I believe people should be assessed before they are allowed to touch a gun.

You poo pooed that, so do you have a plan?

Some people shouldn't be allowed to have children. This guy looks to be one of them. What filters should have been in place for that?

Cooper's Four Rules? I don't need any rules! I'm a child of the 60's and 70's, and we learned then that rules are just for suckers. They just help "the man" oppress people! I'm a grown man with an independent mind, I don't follow any rules!

Derp...

This example really underscores the fact that firearms possession and use should not be a right, any more than driving or riding a motorcycle is considered a right. Education and proof of competency & safety through a licencing procedure should be mandatory!

Meh... nobody listens.

Bisbee wrote:This example really underscores the fact that firearms possession and use should not be a right, any more than driving or riding a motorcycle is considered a right. Education and proof of competency & safety through a licencing procedure should be mandatory!

Meh... nobody listens.

No reason it can't be a right AND have mandatory training. Other nations have managed that.

Problem is, those other nations don't have multi-million-dollar funded organizations dedicated to curtailing that right in every possible fashion using the same tactics as the anti-choice and anti-LGBT Right wing. Their only contribution to the discussion of education, safety regulations, and training has been to demand that education be limited or non-existent, that safety regulations be byzantine and punitive, and that training be as difficult and expensive as possible. If there were any actual legitimate interest in firearms safety and proficiency among the mainstream of the pro-restriction faction this would be a non-issue.

But that is not their primary goal at all. Their primary goal, which has been adequately made clear over and over, is a drastic reduction in the number of firearms owned and the number of people who can own firearms. Not the number of criminals in possession of firearms. Not the number of dangerous people in possession of firearms. Not the number of stolen firearms or the number of firearms illegally sold to prohibited persons. They do not hold Switzerland or the Czech Republic up as the examples they want to emulate. They always look to Australia, the UK, and Japan, with Japan being the shining ideal out of all three.

At the heart of the pro-restriction movement there is nothing but contempt and disgust for the idea of private firearms ownership. ALL private firearms ownership, no matter how they try to court "responsible" firearms owners who don't have evil black rifles what kill children or those assassin tool silencer thingies that make all guns completely quiet and undetectable.

We could have mandatory training and reasonable safety regulations. The community all ready voluntarily trains and follows safety practices. But the other side is not willing to enter into any kind of dialogue or compromise with us; instead blaming their reticence on the NRA, an organization that by their own admission does NOT encompass the majority of firearms owners. They expect us to sit down to a meal where we are served nothing, they get everything they order, and we get stuck with the check at the end. And no matter what we do on our end to uphold the things they claim to want, it's never good enough.