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Here's a brief article I wrote after checking out the VPC's website...hope everyone had enjoyable holidays...-ross
https://occupy2a.wordpress.com/2015/12/ ... nd-50-cal/

Hello Ross as usual you are spot on. I wish you frequented here more often. I've felt ever since the early 80s that the 2nd amendment fight has only been fought to perpetuate the fight.

Thanks!

Good piece...thanks for writing and sharing!

Thanks! Y'know, I really do intend to step things back up...

I like it! .50 cals are probably among the least likely guns to be used for criminal purposes because they and the ammo are so goddamn expensive.

I've mentioned it before but I think the gun most likely to be used in crimes is some cheap, zink-framed Ring of Fire .25 or .32 that was bought in a back alley and that can be conveniently dumped in a lake after the fact.

Well done!

Nice write up. I really wish VPC and the like could get grilled more on their creative use of stats.

Great writeup, Ross. The thing most folks need to understand about groups like VPC is, while their contributors and rank-and-file members might be sincere about their desire to reduce violence, the people who come up with these phony statistics and promote them are not. Their only interest is to demonize people and to drive a great big wedge between urban and rural populations, between white-collar office types and blue-collar laborers, between every group they possibly can push apart, and to get themselves a comfortable living and a lot of attention doing it.

Inquisitor put it pretty well when he was talking about Operation Ceasefire a while back. We know it works. We know it produces results where gun control does not. Yet it languishes without funding while the Democratic party throws all its weight behind more gun control. If they're all truly serious about reducing violence and saving lives, why do they put so much effort into legislation that does nothing to solve the problem and so little into programs that show nearly-immediate improvements? What is it that's actually important to them, reducing violence or reducing firearms ownership?

TheHunterOfSkulls wrote:Great writeup, Ross. The thing most folks need to understand about groups like VPC is, while their contributors and rank-and-file members might be sincere about their desire to reduce violence, the people who come up with these phony statistics and promote them are not.

The leadership has an agenda. The sheep follow.

TheHunterOfSkulls wrote:Their only interest is to demonize people and to drive a great big wedge between urban and rural populations, between white-collar office types and blue-collar laborers, between every group they possibly can push apart, and to get themselves a comfortable living and a lot of attention doing it.

That is the battle we already have lost.