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Trump's playbook election plans discovered

Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2015 10:21 pm
by TrueTexan
We read about Cruz's plan to bomb ISIS. Trump is going to protect us from those terrorist Muslims. He has been bombastic and pushing the envelope of decency. Know we find out from his ex-wife where he got his game plan.

Warning Godwins Law.
That stunning but not entirely surprising revelation comes from his ex-wife Ivana, who told Vanity Fair in a 1990 interview that “from time to time her husband reads a book of Hitler’s collected speeches, My New Order, which he keeps in a cabinet by his bed.” The magazine said Trump confirmed he got it from a film industry friend, Marty Davis. “I thought he would find it interesting,” Davis said. “I am his friend, but I’m not Jewish.”

Adolf Hitler’s My New Order is not just any book. It came after Hitler’s two-volume Mein Kampf (German for My Struggle), and was published in 1925 and 1926 before the Nazi rise to national power and World War II. It is not just a collection of excerpts from speeches Hitler made between 1918 and 1941; it is profusely indexed and filled with details about the speeches’ impact on the media and political establishment.

The American literary magazine Kirkus Review, founded in 1933, puts it this way: “Paralleling actual quotations from Hitler’s own utterances, he [the editor of the English edition] includes corresponding data showing the effect on the world press, and his own commentary relating the statements to doctrines previously presented in Mein Kampf… Section after section follows pattern-background, speech, press.”
But it appears that one way or another, much of the content in My New Order about how Hitler says propaganda works, and how he structures his speaking style, and how Hitler targets the lowest-common denominator as his intended audience, has seeped into Trump: the way he speaks, argues, rages and responds in public. This goes beyond what has been reported in the New York Times, which analyzed 95,000 words from five months of speeches and concluded that Trump shares a style with the 20th century's biggest demagogues.
http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/d ... ers-recipe

If Trump get the nomination there will be high fives in hell between Paul Joseph Goebbels and Hitler.

Re: Trump's playbook election plans discovered

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2015 8:44 am
by comedian
Godwin's Law needs to be thrown out of the window when it starts to get in the way of the truth.
I don't think trump is much of a threat to our Republic ( the current corporate tools in Washington are taking care of that without trump's help, i.e. the TPP ) but his white supremacist demagoguery has inspired racial violence and will cause more in the future.

Re: Trump's playbook election plans discovered

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2015 9:00 am
by SailDesign
comedian wrote:Godwin's Law needs to be thrown out of the window when it starts to get in the way of the truth.
<snip>
Care to clarify that? I mean, I know Godwin's law, but I can't figure out your drift.... As in "how TF can Godwin "get in the way of truth?"

Re: Trump's playbook election plans discovered

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2015 10:03 am
by Inquisitor
SailDesign wrote:
comedian wrote:Godwin's Law needs to be thrown out of the window when it starts to get in the way of the truth.
<snip>
Care to clarify that? I mean, I know Godwin's law, but I can't figure out your drift.... As in "how TF can Godwin "get in the way of truth?"

Too often its invoked and not a valid comparison. So that everything is a Nazi thing to do. Boy who cried wolf and all that.

So when a real Nazi shows up, invoking it automatically gives credence to "we are over reacting" etc.

Re: Trump's playbook election plans discovered

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2015 11:01 am
by Wrboz
Trump sure looks like a fascist from my vantage point.

Re: Trump's playbook election plans discovered

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2015 1:12 pm
by Wino
Trump and other republican front runners show just how despicable, depraved, desperate and duped the base is of the right wing have become. Fascist is an apt label.

Re: Trump's playbook election plans discovered

Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2015 5:34 pm
by PiratePenguin
SailDesign wrote:
comedian wrote:Godwin's Law needs to be thrown out of the window when it starts to get in the way of the truth.
<snip>
Care to clarify that? I mean, I know Godwin's law, but I can't figure out your drift.... As in "how TF can Godwin "get in the way of truth?"
It's not the law itself.

The actual law is: as the length of an Internet discussion increases, the probability of one of the participants being compared to Hitler approaches 1.

There's a longstanding tradition from the days of Usenet that when you compare your opponent to Hitler, you have lost the argument.

When your opponent is saying the same sort of things Hitler said and is apparently being inspired by Hitler's actual speeches, abiding by that tradition would seem to hamper honest discussion.

Re: Trump's playbook election plans discovered

Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2015 7:57 am
by Auer
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