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Anti-Media claims feds are violating law pertaining to NICS

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2015 10:41 am
by DispositionMatrix
"Feds Illegally Maintain Registry of Firearm Owners; Media Fails to Report It"
http://theantimedia.org/feds-illegally- ... report-it/
In plain English, unless a person is prohibited from owning a firearm, their information cannot be retained. However, a recent Washington Post article parroted the Government Accounting Office’s numbers related to firearms purchases:
“Between 2004 and 2014, suspected terrorists attempted to purchase guns from American dealers at least 2,233 times. And in 2,043 of those cases — 91 percent of the time — they succeeded.”
Upon first reading, many Americans might be glad the authorities are keeping an eye on those potential terrorists in our midst. Of course, the facts are a little different. The term “suspected terrorists” in this case means somebody on the combined terrorist watch-list. These are people that may have never been convicted or even charged with a crime. The list has expanded so much that there are around 700,000 names on the list. They include a number of journalists, former Department of Justice ethics adviser Jesselyn Radack, Nelson Mandela, and the list of non-terrorists and false positives goes on forever. Known nonviolent activists have been added to the list because there is no real justification required to be placed on it, only a “reasonable suspicion.”

Re: Anti-Media claims feds are violating law pertaining to N

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2015 1:06 pm
by workinstiff
I'm really trying to be restrained and calm here, so I'll just comment...what utter bullshit.

Re: Anti-Media claims feds are violating law pertaining to N

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2015 2:39 pm
by DispositionMatrix
workinstiff wrote:I'm really trying to be restrained and calm here, so I'll just comment...what utter bullshit.
I think Anti-Media's issue is how the GAO was able to provide that data. I have not researched it.

Re: Anti-Media claims feds are violating law pertaining to N

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2015 10:25 pm
by BKinzey
Not an angle I had thought of. Another thing to be pisses about. :angry:

Re: Anti-Media claims feds are violating law pertaining to N

Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2015 10:36 pm
by senorgrand
Another secret list of Americans? Pretty sure we all must be on at least one now.

Re: Anti-Media claims feds are violating law pertaining to N

Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2015 2:48 am
by Wurble
LOL, yeah think about it for a second.

They are supposed to delete records of sale. Yet they were able to provide 10 years worth of sale data.

Um... how can they provide 10 years worth of sale data when that sale data is supposed to be deleted ... uh ... OOPS!

Re: Anti-Media claims feds are violating law pertaining to N

Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2015 11:00 am
by TrueTexan
Wurble wrote:LOL, yeah think about it for a second.

They are supposed to delete records of sale. Yet they were able to provide 10 years worth of sale data.

Um... how can they provide 10 years worth of sale data when that sale data is supposed to be deleted ... uh ... OOPS!

I have wondered about that for years, when you have a crime committed with a gun and the PD comes out shortly saying it was purchased so many years ago by so and so at a pawn shop three states away within one to two days.

Re: Anti-Media claims feds are violating law pertaining to N

Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2015 11:23 am
by KnightsFan
Aren't FFLs required to keep records for X-years? Couldn't a serial number be tracked from the factory to the seller?

And I'm sure the ATF and courts bend over backward to help.