Mason wrote:Son of a bitch. Give me a drink.

lurker wrote:one-way ticket to mars is looking better and better.

TrueTexan wrote:

dandad wrote:

sikacz wrote:

eelj wrote:Have seen a few videos of Rebels shooting the parachuting pilots in the air. Then they show one of the bodies on the ground being stripped and al kinds of gleeful shouting going on. A number of mideast experts claim that isis is not in the area and the language and accents of the ground fighters has them believing they are our jihadis, in other words trained and financed by the cia. I'm getting tired of listening to people screaming out to their god while killing other people, it seems so medieval.

It is medieval. Look forward (sarcasm coming) to hearing more such gleeful expressions. Won't be long before it's one of ours.

I live in the part of St. Louis with 40,000 Bosnian and Serbian refugees, and hearing some of the stories from the ones who were in the middle of that conflict , and how propaganda pushed on them daily in radio, television broadcast , the press, and so many other groups turned even friends and family on each other. Constantly hearing how this religion, this race, this type, even where someone lived and how they lived was used to basically brain wash masses into outright hate of each other, where before they may not have liked each other, but they tolerated them and lived in relative peace.

My Sister-In-Law's husband is a Serb/Croat and not liked by ether side. He was in Kosoov with his family during the bombing that he said was not needed. that the hostilities had already died down. The only thing or people he hates out of that whole mess was the Bill and Hillary Clinton.

wifesbane wrote:Having watched Putin's moves, I fully him to retaliate by sending aircraft back into the same area but making sure to fire first to maintain some plausibility of it being a "defensive act". That puts the next stage of escalation to Obama's desk. It could fracture NATO.

sikacz wrote:

Mason wrote:Son of a bitch. Give me a drink.

Mind if I join you?

BKinzey wrote:

sikacz wrote:

Mason wrote:Son of a bitch. Give me a drink.

Mind if I join you?

The service is a little slow but the drinks are good and priced right.


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lurker wrote:putin seems to be showing some restraint. it may be that he recognizes that we have a common enemy, and sees more benefit in temporary cooperation. there's always time to rattle sabers later. if assad can't hold, putin's got another tiger by the tail, and russia is familiar with the outcome of fighting on two fronts, especially when there's discontent at home and the body bags start coming in. sometimes it leads to regime change.

sikacz wrote:

lurker wrote:putin seems to be showing some restraint. it may be that he recognizes that we have a common enemy, and sees more benefit in temporary cooperation. there's always time to rattle sabers later. if assad can't hold, putin's got another tiger by the tail, and russia is familiar with the outcome of fighting on two fronts, especially when there's discontent at home and the body bags start coming in. sometimes it leads to regime change.

He's moved in anti-aircraft equipment and a ship with missiles. And I believe taken some economic actions to punish Turkey.

eelj wrote:Turkey is not only NATO but a true boot licking member. Putin is unless I'm mistaken an atheist so he would naturally fear armageddon. He probably read this article in counterpunch http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/11/24/ ... f-madness/ and is too afraid too do what would be the normal responce.