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dandad wrote:
jc57 wrote:In 2014 my home state (TN) repealed all state laws on knives and put in a pre-emption clause as well. So basically there are no longer any knife restrictions, and local laws can't override it. No blade length limits, automatics OK, open carry, fixed blade, whatever. What I own and prefer to carry, knife-wise, was legal before the law change so no change for me. Former limit was 4" and the closest thing I have to that is an old Buck 110. I pretty much just carry a Victorinox Swiss Army knife (alox-handled Cadet) and maybe a Case slipjoint. I do leave a Zero Tolerance or Benchmade folder in the car, but those are still under 3.5" and were perfectly legal before the laws were repealed.

However, if I want to carry a club or baton I have to get training and carry a card with me showing I passed the training class (4 hour class, $50 fee). I had a fair amount of baton training in the police academy in 19080 (with refresher training in later years during in-service training), but I don't guess that counts.

I might just go get the training - there's a class offered at my local range. I don't plan to go around carrying a nightstick in general but going out for walks in the neighborhood, I'd rather have a stick than any other type of weapon to fend off stray dogs if the need arose.

being a Gimp I use a cane. I was considering some cane / stick fighting classes myself .. for those times where drawing a weapon might not be a first choice or necessary.
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I think if I wore that suit and hat, and stood in a few of those positions, the attacker would laugh themselves into submission.. :lol:

Is that mustache a weave ?



actually there are a couple ex Mossad and Russian special forces guys who are also St. Louis Police as well as trainers for many police departments in the area that offer classes to the public too. Krav Maga , cane/ stick, self defense classes and more. I was thinking of giving them a shot to see how it goes. They wont start teaching you any defense or fighting until you take and pass what they call their "breathing and body" 2 month course, where they teach proper breathing and get your body in basic shape so you dont hurt yourself.. Which could take me 12 months or more to pass that :laugh:
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dandad wrote: being a Gimp I use a cane. I was considering some cane / stick fighting classes myself .. for those times where drawing a weapon might not be a first choice or necessary.
My girlfriend and I have been sword (stick) fighting for a decade (her) or two (me) and have lots of friends that do the same... right surprises a perp that pulls a knife on you (or a gun if they are close enough) and you whip their ass with a stick/pipe, but it's not the be all/end all of defensive weapons of course.

She's actually more comfortable with a stick like defensive weapon than a gun.

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hroller wrote:
dandad wrote: being a Gimp I use a cane. I was considering some cane / stick fighting classes myself .. for those times where drawing a weapon might not be a first choice or necessary.
My girlfriend and I have been sword (stick) fighting for a decade (her) or two (me) and have lots of friends that do the same... right surprises a perp that pulls a knife on you (or a gun if they are close enough) and you whip their ass with a stick/pipe, but it's not the be all/end all of defensive weapons of course.

She's actually more comfortable with a stick like defensive weapon than a gun.

where do you go out in Overland? Im in Bevo south city area, so its not that big of a hall to overland.

I totally agree, stick fighting is not the end all, but it could be enough to deter the less violent, or , give one time to get to the end all in the IWB.
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hroller wrote:
dandad wrote: being a Gimp I use a cane. I was considering some cane / stick fighting classes myself .. for those times where drawing a weapon might not be a first choice or necessary.
My girlfriend and I have been sword (stick) fighting for a decade (her) or two (me) and have lots of friends that do the same... right surprises a perp that pulls a knife on you (or a gun if they are close enough) and you whip their ass with a stick/pipe, but it's not the be all/end all of defensive weapons of course.

She's actually more comfortable with a stick like defensive weapon than a gun.
Yeah, the amount of heavy fighting you two have done would make canes rather unfair to carry on the Metro. ;)
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hroller wrote:
dandad wrote: where do you go out in Overland? Im in Bevo south city area, so its not that big of a hall to overland.

I totally agree, stick fighting is not the end all, but it could be enough to deter the less violent, or , give one time to get to the end all in the IWB.
http://www.b3r.org/

Yes, it's goofy dress up, play time... but the fighting is full speed and not choreographed.

Hroller

hey, the dress up has a purpose, and it can be a lot of fun. the kids and I sometimes go and watch groups like this out in Crondolete and Tower Grove park.
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dandad wrote:
And now I just ran across this from 2014

http://bearingarms.com/breaking-ct-supr ... amendment/

The Connecticut Supreme Court has recognized that the Second Amendment extends beyond firearms in State v. DeCiccio, after a Connecticut man moving to Massachusetts was arrested and convicted for transporting a dirk (a kind of long-bladed thrusting dagger used during the tall ship era, as well as ceremonially in certain cultures) and a police baton to his new home.

The court found that both kinds of non-firearms weapons are protected under the Second Amendment.
The ONLY intelligent thing that has come out of Connecticut. I cannot wait until I am able to retire and GTFO of this state. I hate having to apologize for the insanity that comes from our representatives and elected officials.

Especially "Smurphy". I wrote him a well thought out email regarding allowing the military that are stationed off-military installations, after the event in Chattanooga. The drivel he sent back was painful in ways that made me sick. It came down to the tired and ridiculous notion: soldiers are trained to use guns with deadly accuracy. We can't have that in public - it will scare the children."

He's a moron.
First of all, let's call it what it really is...It's not a gun buy-back, because the government never owned them. It's a gun turn in.

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christianne wrote:
dandad wrote:
And now I just ran across this from 2014

http://bearingarms.com/breaking-ct-supr ... amendment/

The Connecticut Supreme Court has recognized that the Second Amendment extends beyond firearms in State v. DeCiccio, after a Connecticut man moving to Massachusetts was arrested and convicted for transporting a dirk (a kind of long-bladed thrusting dagger used during the tall ship era, as well as ceremonially in certain cultures) and a police baton to his new home.

The court found that both kinds of non-firearms weapons are protected under the Second Amendment.
The ONLY intelligent thing that has come out of Connecticut. I cannot wait until I am able to retire and GTFO of this state. I hate having to apologize for the insanity that comes from our representatives and elected officials.

Especially "Smurphy". I wrote him a well thought out email regarding allowing the military that are stationed off-military installations, after the event in Chattanooga. The drivel he sent back was painful in ways that made me sick. It came down to the tired and ridiculous notion: soldiers are trained to use guns with deadly accuracy. We can't have that in public - it will scare the children."

He's a moron.
Ive tried writing state reps before. All I ever get back is a boiler plate letter , saying thank you, we will, or , are looking into this, followed by a signature.
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