The Liberal Gun Club Forum

TheHunterOfSkulls wrote:

Inquisitor wrote:

pdoggeth wrote:They've changed from "we're pro-life" to "we're for life". Was the word "pro" not doing well with focus groups?

Wouldn't want any abortion restrictionist confusion.

Or rather, they don't want anyone noticing how many tactics they've borrowed from the anti-choice movement.

Exactly this, and there can be a surprising amount of crossover in their tactics. The major difference is how honest they are about their main goal.

"We want to ban abortion because it's killing the precious Jesus children! But the court says we can't do that so we'll burden you with as many common sense obstacles as we can include to make it more difficult and expensive to murder babies. Like mandatory waiting periods to give the girl time to think it over, mandatory "education" so she knows how bad the procedure is, forced disclosure to the parents, mandatory ultrasounds, mandatory making the woman listen to fetal heartbeat, making clinics liable for malpractice suits if they give abortions, and more! Think of the unborn children!"

This is (correctly!) blasted for infringing on fundamental human rights and dignity. It is recognized for the slow erosion that it is. But then these same people will make the same exact demands of the second amendment, waiting periods, mandatory education, lawsuits against gun sellers who legally sell to mass shooters, making it more difficult and expensive, etc. but say they don't want to ban "all guns."

I guess it's easy to be logically inconsistent and dismissive when it comes to rights a person doesn't personally care about.

CDFingers wrote:One of the gun ranges in town put this up for Easter:

This is the real northern California, folks. Where I live...

"Safety through training"

http://downrangechico.com/

CDFingers

If that's the "real Northern California", shouldn't the bunny be surrounded by cannabis plants?

Mikester wrote:Exactly this, and there can be a surprising amount of crossover in their tactics. The major difference is how honest they are about their main goal.

"We want to ban abortion because it's killing the precious Jesus children! But the court says we can't do that so we'll burden you with as many common sense obstacles as we can include to make it more difficult and expensive to murder babies. Like mandatory waiting periods to give the girl time to think it over, mandatory "education" so she knows how bad the procedure is, forced disclosure to the parents, mandatory ultrasounds, mandatory making the woman listen to fetal heartbeat, making clinics liable for malpractice suits if they give abortions, and more! Think of the unborn children!"

This is (correctly!) blasted for infringing on fundamental human rights and dignity. It is recognized for the slow erosion that it is. But then these same people will make the same exact demands of the second amendment, waiting periods, mandatory education, lawsuits against gun sellers who legally sell to mass shooters, making it more difficult and expensive, etc. but say they don't want to ban "all guns."

I guess it's easy to be logically inconsistent and dismissive when it comes to rights a person doesn't personally care about.

Too many people calling themselves "liberals" and "socialists" today really aren't either of those things. They're authoritarians. Liberals and socialists look at a thing and say, "Most people can be trusted with ____, so there's no reason to make it illegal or restricted.". These authoritarian pretenders look at a thing and say, "I don't like ____, and I don't care if most people can be trusted with it, they just shouldn't have it at all.". Liberals and socialists look at society and say, "We have a problem. There's a boot on everyone's necks, and it doesn't belong there.". Authoritarians say, "We have a problem. There's a boot on everyone's necks, and it only belongs on the necks of people not like me.".

TheHunterOfSkulls, nicely put!

Merkwuerdigliebe wrote:If that's the "real Northern California", shouldn't the bunny be surrounded by cannabis plants?

Look at his eyes. Then you know where the plants went.

This year they have Santa with an AR saying you never know who's going to come down your chimney. This is the range I wrote about in the recent LGC home page blog entry where the distances are in yards not meters because this is the future State of Jefferson.

When I shot the GP100 for the Bullseye match this go 'round, the counter dude said, "Nice Dead grips." The State of Jefferson could end up very tolerant of liberals--all four dozen of us.

CDFingers

CDFingers wrote:

Merkwuerdigliebe wrote:If that's the "real Northern California", shouldn't the bunny be surrounded by cannabis plants?

Look at his eyes. Then you know where the plants went.

This year they have Santa with an AR saying you never know who's going to come down your chimney. This is the range I wrote about in the recent LGC home page blog entry where the distances are in yards not meters because this is the future State of Jefferson.

When I shot the GP100 for the Bullseye match this go 'round, the counter dude said, "Nice Dead grips." The State of Jefferson could end up very tolerant of liberals--all four dozen of us.

CDFingers

So when's independence day?