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So before anyone says "you cannot not use it hunt," just know that the 2nd Amendment is not about "hunting." I have the right to defend myself from swarms of killer bees. There is no effective round to combat swarms of bees. Some of you will immediately start yelling "straw man" arguement. I will tell you that this is actually a real problem. FACT: Bee attacks have risen over 300% over this past weekend. Look at this article from yesterday's news.

http://www.upi.com/Odd_News/2015/03/22/ ... 427069817/

These people could have defend themselves with the XM42. You don't believe it? Well here is an article from a mainstream, fair and balanced news source. This article was also posted yesterday.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/03/22/be ... 00s-times/
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GeorgiaRN wrote:So before anyone says "you cannot not use it hunt," just know that the 2nd Amendment is not about "hunting." I have the right to defend myself from swarms of killer bees. There is no effective round to combat swarms of bees. Some of you will immediately start yelling "straw man" arguement. I will tell you that this is actually a real problem. FACT: Bee attacks have risen over 300% over this past weekend. Look at this article from yesterday's news.

http://www.upi.com/Odd_News/2015/03/22/ ... 427069817/

These people could have defend themselves with the XM42. You don't believe it? Well here is an article from a mainstream, fair and balanced news source. This article was also posted yesterday.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/03/22/be ... 00s-times/
So now I need to carry a gun for bad guys, an angle grinder in case I lose the keys to my bike lock and a flame thrower for bee attacks?

I can't really tell if you're serious or not. This is normal bee behavior for this time of year. Colonies split and the bees swarm. If you stay away from them or keep calm near them there is no problem. They find a new place to nest and calm down. Just like most of this country need to. We're not the the only things that live here. Also, the media need to quit with the" Africanized Killer Bee" shit, it's just hype.
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Mason wrote:
GeorgiaRN wrote:So before anyone says "you cannot not use it hunt," just know that the 2nd Amendment is not about "hunting." I have the right to defend myself from swarms of killer bees. There is no effective round to combat swarms of bees. Some of you will immediately start yelling "straw man" arguement. I will tell you that this is actually a real problem. FACT: Bee attacks have risen over 300% over this past weekend. Look at this article from yesterday's news.

http://www.upi.com/Odd_News/2015/03/22/ ... 427069817/

These people could have defend themselves with the XM42. You don't believe it? Well here is an article from a mainstream, fair and balanced news source. This article was also posted yesterday.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/03/22/be ... 00s-times/
So now I need to carry a gun for bad guys, an angle grinder in case I lose the keys to my bike lock and a flame thrower for bee attacks?

I can't really tell if you're serious or not. This is normal bee behavior for this time of year. Colonies split and the bees swarm. If you stay away from them or keep calm near them there is no problem. They find a new place to nest and calm down. Just like most of this country need to. We're not the the only things that live here. Also, the media need to quit with the" Africanized Killer Bee" shit, it's just hype.
My attempt at satire. I guess I am no Onion or Currant. :( I thought the "fair and balanced" reference would have given it away. Now to find some propaganda about swarms moving into GA, so I can justify this purchase to my wife. "Prepping for Bee Swarms"
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Three Democratic representatives want to NFA flamethrowers.
https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/114/hr4009/text
Government, by its nature, seeks to control.
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Practical use is relative.

For example:

Burning the needles off of cacti.

During extreme periods of drought in the semi-arid Chihuahua region, my Grandfather use to take cactus and use a flame to burn off the sharp needles so that his live stock would have something to eat that provided water. It worked for them.

Using the XM42 would have made this a much more interesting experience.
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JackpineSalvage wrote:I would imagine a flamethrower is sorta like an immersion blender or a bulldozer, in that you never really know what you're going to use it for until you own one, and afterwards you wonder how you ever got along without it.
For a thread that was obviously dripping with satire and sarcasm, you sure did a smooth job of bringing it to the realm of feasible practicality. Kudos! :thumbup:
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What statistically-relevant problem in the US with flamethrowers are the reps trying to solve?

Supporting a ban on something due to one's inability to identify its merits is not equivalent to supporting a ban on something based on its perceived demerits.
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SailDesign wrote:
DispositionMatrix wrote:Three Democratic representatives want to NFA flamethrowers.
https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/114/hr4009/text
Government, by its nature, seeks to control.
I'm not so sure I don't agree with them, actually. I'd be happier if people could own machine-pistols than flame-throwers.
I would be too.

By the way, flame throwers are in common use in agriculture. Albeit the ones I used as a kid to clear brush were slight less dramatic.

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Meh. I don't seem to remember a single instance where a flamethrower, agricultural or otherwise, has been used in a crime here in the US. Why use the blunt power of legislation on something that has had no prior use in the way they fear? Instead, it would likely create tax stamps for the little weed burners that many of us have used, classifying them as AOW's.
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shinzen wrote:Meh. I don't seem to remember a single instance where a flamethrower, agricultural or otherwise, has been used in a crime here in the US. Why use the blunt power of legislation on something that has had no prior use in the way they fear? Instead, it would likely create tax stamps for the little weed burners that many of us have used, classifying them as AOW's.
From the text of the bill:
1.Short title
This Act may be cited as the Flamethrowers? Really? Act.
In other words, they cannot fathom why anyone would need a flamethrower so flamethrowers need to be restricted.
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shinzen wrote:Meh. I don't seem to remember a single instance where a flamethrower, agricultural or otherwise, has been used in a crime here in the US. Why use the blunt power of legislation on something that has had no prior use in the way they fear? Instead, it would likely create tax stamps for the little weed burners that many of us have used, classifying them as AOW's.
Spend some time with someone who was on the receiving end of one in war-time,adn you will appreciate why they should not be available to all the idiots out there that want one. A friend's father had been badly burned in WW2 by a German one, and even in 1968 he refused to get out of the car in public because people would react badly.

Keep 'em on the no-fly list.
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SailDesign wrote:
shinzen wrote:Meh. I don't seem to remember a single instance where a flamethrower, agricultural or otherwise, has been used in a crime here in the US. Why use the blunt power of legislation on something that has had no prior use in the way they fear? Instead, it would likely create tax stamps for the little weed burners that many of us have used, classifying them as AOW's.
Spend some time with someone who was on the receiving end of one in war-time,adn you will appreciate why they should not be available to all the idiots out there that want one. A friend's father had been badly burned in WW2 by a German one, and even in 1968 he refused to get out of the car in public because people would react badly.

Keep 'em on the no-fly list.
Hey something somewhere has to be outlawed right. These flame throwers have been the bane of our urban centers for years. Just the domestic violence alone.

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