http://crimeblog.dallasnews.com/2012/12 ... noon.html/

Around 5:30 yesterday, Dallas police officers were dispatched to 3 MO Tires & Wheels at S. Buckner Boulevard and Military Parkway, where they arrived to find 47-year-old Vicente Banuelos Sr. lying on the ground. He’d been shot — five times, as far as officers could tell, in his chest and stomach. From the look of the casings they found on the ground, police believe the suspect used a .45 semi-automatic.

But they don’t know who they’re looking for. A woman who was at the shop getting her tires changed told police she saw a man just walk up to Banuelos, point a “chrome-plated pistol” at him and begin firing — maybe three times, maybe five. She told police the suspect never said a word to Banuelos, and that after the shooting he took off on foot, headed north.

Another witness, the man changing the woman’s tires, told officers the same story — except he saw what happened after the suspect left. He told officers the man ran east across Buckner. He then jumped into a car and headed east on Hoyle Avenue. But he couldn’t say whether the suspect was driving or if it was someone else. The report doesn’t offer a description of the shooter.

Banuelos was taken to Baylor University Medical Center, where he was operated on. Police say he’s listed in serious condition.

Let the caliber war begin!

Had to be the chrome. Chome plating on a gun reduces the effectiveness of the ammo by 68%, according to an Internet post (this one, in fact).

If that gun had been blued, the first shot would have blown his spine out his back.

Wait! Wait! Don't tell me! Vincente doesn't have any idea of who he was or who he was working for, right?

I wonder where he was hit?

SwampGrouch wrote: I wonder where he was hit?

At the tire shop.

Simmer down wrote:

SwampGrouch wrote: I wonder where he was hit?

At the tire shop.

Seriously, it makes me wonder if the shooter wasn't intending to maim instead of killing him. Like the IRA kneecapping people.

Obviously he's a Highlander...there can be only one!

senorgrand wrote:Obviously he's a Highlander...there can be only one!

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This exemplifies the theory of shot placement.

Shit! I drove by that place yesterday, I wondered why they had the news crew there.

This is a bs story. Everybody knows that one hit from a 45 will vaporize you. Five and your remains get catapulted back in time.

AmirMortal wrote:This is a bs story. Everybody knows that one hit from a 45 will vaporize you. Five and your remains get catapulted back in time.

You're thinking of 10mm.

Maybe the perp got a hold of some of my reloads. I swear it takes everything they've got to get out of the barrel on their own sometimes.

The grumbling spirit of Jeff Cooper must be...well, grumbling, I guess...

William Manchester wrote a book about his experiences as a Marine in the Pacific in WWII and tells of a time he shot a Japanese soldier with his .45 ACP 1911 A1...he shot him 8 times before the guy finally even fell over.

If you really need stopping power, get a 12 gauge loaded with slugs.

Go back to sleep, Jeff...

mark

FWIW, it's confusing stopping power with lethality that can lead to... humor, in some places.
A baby rattlesnake's bite will not stop you immediately but can kill ya soon enough.
That's why I carry a bunchof the little fellers.

AmirMortal wrote:This is a bs story. Everybody knows that one hit from a 45 will vaporize you. Five and your remains get catapulted back in time.

Indeed. All the Manly Mens on the internet know that the .45 ACP is the killingest thing ever, because John Browning. I suspect those cops are in the tank for the 9mm Manufacturer's Girly Guild.


(OT: These same MMs never tire of telling you that the huge pectoral muscles of the average Bad Guy will easily deflect the wimpy .380 ACP, because, um, John Browning?).