Feinstein to push for no-grandfathered semi-auto ban?

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Feinstein rumored to be pushing semi-auto ban if Obama reelected

ELECTIONS 2012NOVEMBER 6, 2012BY: DAVID CODREA

California Senator Dianne Feinstein‘s Washington, D.C. “…staff held meetings on Friday with FTB/ATF [Firearms Technology Branch/ Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives] legal staff to discuss a new ‘Assault Weapons Ban,” Jim Shepherd of The Shooting Wire reported yesterday, characterizing the meeting as a “rumor” based on “pretty good intelligence.”

Feinstein’s rumored bill “would ban pistol grips and "high-capacity" magazines, eliminate any grandfathering and ban sales of ‘weapons in possession’" Shepherd writes.

Gun Rights Examiner has been holding on to identical information attempting to get verification, but with its publication in a prominent gun owner community venue, it becomes legitimate to share the discussion. This correspondent received an email from a source purported to be forwarded from Lawrence G. Keane, Senior Vice President, Assistant Secretary and General Counsel for the National Shooting Sports Foundation, which stated:

I just heard that Sen. Feinstein’s attorney is meeting right now with folks from FTB and ATF legal (Eric Epstein [legal], Todd Martin [Legal] and Earl Griffith [FTB] and others) to discuss a new SAW ban, that she would want to start pushing through as soon as (if) Obama gets reelected.

- - No pistol grip allowed
- - No HC Mags
- - No grandfathering
- - No sale permissible if in possession

That is all I know right now

This is certainly consistent with President Obama's call in the debates to re-up the federal semi-auto ban (as well as go after handguns), and is further circumstantially corroborated by a new NSSF release relating how Feinstein continues to defend ATF actions in Fast and Furious gunwalking, all the while still "claiming, erroneously, that 70 percent of guns seized in Mexico were traced to the United States."

Since Keane was the purported source of the email, he was the one to ask about its authenticity.

“Just got this forwarded to me--is it genuine?” this correspondent emailed earlier today.

No reply has been sent at this writing, so the query was extended to another insider source to probe its credibility.

"The ATF personnel noted are indeed the players,” the source replied, “but what is noticeably absent is anyone from the executive level, AD or DAD [Assistant Director/Deputy Assistant Director]--the policy implementer/makers. That part is strange and shows that while ATF may have had to go to the meeting, the Bureau and DoJ are not necessarily supportive.

"In addition, the cost of enforcement and regulation would be tremendous,” the source continued. “I don’t see the financial aspect being supported if such a law were passed unless it is revenue neutral and ownership was taxed like NYC does with guns.”

There's then the matter of how likely, barring an unforeseen event, such a bill would be to make it to the White House for signature. While the current political thought is not very, political thought can change with the circumstances of the day, and who really knows what events could put such legislation on the front burner?

But even if Feinstein's latest assault on liberty fizzles, one unexpected prediction in the source's reply may prove to be a bombshell if [his/her] instincts are right, and remember, this is someone who knows the Bureau and the culture it operates in, so the opinion can't just be dismissed as wild speculation:

“My true feeling is that ATF is likely toast after the election, no matter who wins."

Someone needs to tell her it isn't going to work and to stop burning bridges. Get on it, Cali LGCers.

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"...A victory is useless unless it reflects your deepest wishes." Baron Vladimir Harkonnen
Of course she will. She will be joined by similarly minded individuals across the nation, hailed as a champion of gun control and the war on crime, embraced by the president as a true leader...and her bill will make it through the senate with ease.

Then it will meet the House of Representatives and there it will linger in committee, never to be heard from again...or...

The real dilemma is whether the right will see this as an opportunity to alienate the democrats by letting it, or a compromise, through with the intention of playing off of voter discontent in 2014 and 2016. Voters, having the attention span of a blue soap dish, will equate everything happening (and not happening) in congress with the majority party....that of course being the party in control of the white house.
People want leadership, and in the absence of genuine leadership they'll listen to anyone who steps up to the microphone.”Aaron Sorkin/Michael J Fox The American President
Subliterate Buffooery of the right...
Literate Ignorance of the left...

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I do not like her. It isn't that I disagree with her (I do disagree with her). It's that she doesn't base this in a realistic understanding of the issues she is trying to address.

I hate the fact that she will do this, but won't do shit to improve the opportunities of people in the communities who suffer most from gun violence. This is political cover for not actually making things better.

I hate the fact that she will try to do this despite the fact that it will never happen and all it will do is hurt the chances of making real changes that will really make the world better.

Some days I think her political ascent is the worst part of what Dan White did.

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Feinstein rumored....

“rumor” based on “pretty good intelligence.....”

attempting to get verification....

I just heard....

circumstantially corroborated....

purported source....

opinion can't just be dismissed as wild speculation.....
Not a single verifiable fact in the whole story. This is the most specious bit of "reporting" I've seen in a long time.

But a lot of you guys seem to be buying it? :no:

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MtnMan wrote: Not a single verifiable fact in the whole story. This is the most specious bit of "reporting" I've seen in a long time.

But a lot of you guys seem to be buying it? :no:
well, maybe...and maybe maybe...
from her mouth:
http://www.sfgate.com/opinion/article/F ... 741632.php
People want leadership, and in the absence of genuine leadership they'll listen to anyone who steps up to the microphone.”Aaron Sorkin/Michael J Fox The American President
Subliterate Buffooery of the right...
Literate Ignorance of the left...

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MtnMan wrote:
Feinstein rumored....

“rumor” based on “pretty good intelligence.....”

attempting to get verification....

I just heard....

circumstantially corroborated....

purported source....

opinion can't just be dismissed as wild speculation.....
Not a single verifiable fact in the whole story. This is the most specious bit of "reporting" I've seen in a long time.

But a lot of you guys seem to be buying it? :no:
When you have a donkey living next door and hear something braying, you tend to blame the donkey next door. ;)
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Problem with most of those weapons is that there are innumerable knock-offs. But since most of what anti-gun Democrats have "learned" about guns is by watching 80's action movies, my guess would be she (or staff) asked for what they had heard of:

1) Uzi 9mm
2) Tec 9 (9mm)
3) Mac 10 (.45)
4) Ar15 (5.56 with 100 round drum)
5) Benelli semi-auto 12g (maybe an M1) -- often referred to as an "automatic" shotgun

I bet she asked for a "phased plasma rifle in the 40 watt range" and someone had to explain why they couldn't get one for the press conference...
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Fukshot wrote:I hate the fact that she will do this, but won't do shit to improve the opportunities of people in the communities who suffer most from gun violence. This is political cover for not actually making things better.
Bingo, this is it exactly.

When I used to live in San Fran I remember reading (can't think where now) how Feinstein actually has a CCW permit. Sort of hypocritical if you ask me, she can have it but others can't.
The reason you wouldn't want to burn the flag, is because you can.

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rolandson wrote:
MtnMan wrote: Not a single verifiable fact in the whole story. This is the most specious bit of "reporting" I've seen in a long time.

But a lot of you guys seem to be buying it? :no:
well, maybe...and maybe maybe...
from her mouth:
http://www.sfgate.com/opinion/article/F ... 741632.php
Hopefully within the next few elections (Presidential and midterms), we'll be able to weed out most of the anti-gun liberals and get some who actually understand why people own them and help defend them. All this silly AWB talk won't get us anywhere, even is it is passed. Just another hurdle.
All problems can be solved with a copious amount of high explosives.

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Considering the source, and the fact it was issued election day for something that supposedly happened the Friday before, I vote bullshit until proven otherwise.

There's no doubt DF wants a ban, but the report of a meeting, the guy writing it and the timing - smells like a fish to me.
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