Re: border patrol fires into Mexico kills kid who threw rock

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JerseyDog wrote:There IS video of the river shooting. The Rio Grande at that point is so shallow and narrow that it's little more than a drainage ditch that can be walked across without getting your thighs wet. The officer had a suspect in custody on the ground and was applying cuffs when numerous mexican youths started chucking baseball or larger sized rocks at him hard enough than they were landing around him.

Suspect beneath you + additional assailants yards away + gun on your wast + rock blow to the head = Fucked.

I've never understood how people minimize rocking. How about I call you over to my house and my 18 y/o nephew repeatedly throws 2-3 pound shards of shattered concrete at your head with deadly intent? Ok, he's actually a pitcher so that's not fair. So we'll separate you by a 15 foot high chain link fence then have him throw the rocks hard enough they clear the fence and still have enough velocity to reach you on the other side. Mind you the aim is lot harder so most of the time he won't hit you at least. So we'll call over 14 of his friends and have them try at the same time.

The intent of the throwers is lethal. Border Patrol agents can and do get serious injured or even maimed during rockings. The threat is real. Police do not have a duty to retreat, that's been affirmed by the courts over and over. Every last foot of that ground up to the border fence is US soil and if law enforcement believe there is evidence of illegal activity that needs to be investigated they have the right and duty to do so.
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Re: border patrol fires into Mexico kills kid who threw rock

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Collector1337 wrote:If that is indeed what happened, then yes, I would have also opened fire.

If it was one asshole kid, no, but a whole gang of them? Screw it, empty the mag.

They might be too young/stupid to realize it, but they are basically attempted murderers.
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Re: border patrol fires into Mexico kills kid who threw rock

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AmirMortal wrote:
Collector1337 wrote:If that is indeed what happened, then yes, I would have also opened fire.

If it was one asshole kid, no, but a whole gang of them? Screw it, empty the mag.

They might be too young/stupid to realize it, but they are basically attempted murderers.
This is precisely why we have laws against executing children and the mentally disabled. I support those laws. If that is indeed your view, I sure hope that you are not in a position to do this...ever.
It's funny how polar the opinions are on this topic.

I was agreeing with you if read any of my previous posts on this thread, but in light of new information (given that what was said was true), I probably would have done the same.

Yes, we do have those laws about execution, but... this wasn't an execution, and the border agent did in fact open fire and kill one of them.

If a young/stupid kid is throwing big rocks at me, his maturity and IQ are irrelevant, something deadly is still deadly regardless of who is doing it and I still have a right to defend myself.
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