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DALLAS — Thelma Taormina keeps a pistol at her Houston-area home to protect against intruders. But one of the last times she used it, she said, was to run off a persistent utility company worker who was trying to replace her old electricity meter with a new digital unit.

“This is Texas.” she declared at a recent public hearing on the new meters. “We have rights to choose what appliances we want in our home.”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/ ... story.html

That makes me so damn mad I could spit. Obama and his lectric sheeeeit.

Simmer down wrote:That makes me so damn mad I could spit. Obama and his lectric sheeeeit.

I have to admit I was thinking of you and Xela when I saw this.

You know, there is an easy answer to this issue. The electric company should just say "You don't want our new meters? No service for you then."

Heh.

Ultravox wrote:You know, there is an easy answer to this issue. The electric company should just say "You don't want our new meters? No service for you then."

Heh.

+5

Ultravox wrote:You know, there is an easy answer to this issue. The electric company should just say "You don't want our new meters? No service for you then."

Roger that. With no TV for Fox News, the old biddy will roll over within a week. That or spend her whole social security check on gas for her prepper generator.

Ron White once said, "You can't fix stupid".

Ultravox wrote:You know, there is an easy answer to this issue. The electric company should just say "You don't want our new meters? No service for you then."

Heh.

Hell no! That would be an attack on the 1st, 4th, 5th and 18th amendments!!!11!!1!1!!!

Ultravox wrote:You know, there is an easy answer to this issue. The electric company should just say "You don't want our new meters? No service for you then."

Heh.

In the summer heat, she might have to decide whether she wants power, or whether she wants to be a true individualist and stick this one out.

The power company should require the switch to the new meter, but if they cave, they could also persuade her by raising the rates so significantly she would have to consent to the newfangled, anti-freedom digital meters.

She's right - the meters detect, count, and report weapons in the home for when the Mass Confiscation occurs during the Kenyan muslim's 2nd term. I know this is true 'cause god told me during a conversation we had halfway thru my 3rd 6-pack of Lone Star.

She just doesn't want people to know that she has figured out how to turn back the old style meter to save money and hide her indoor grow operation.

punkinlobber wrote:Ron White once said, "You can't fix stupid".

Affirmative.

Aztex999 wrote:She's right - the meters detect, count, and report weapons in the home for when the Mass Confiscation occurs during the Kenyan muslim's 2nd term. I know this is true 'cause god told me during a conversation we had halfway thru my 3rd 6-pack of Lone Star.

omg

Ultravox wrote:You know, there is an easy answer to this issue. The electric company should just say "You don't want our new meters? No service for you then."

Heh.

And that's able to be enforced under the utility commission's laws.

http://www.puc.state.tx.us/agency/rules ... /25.29.pdf

Section 25.29, paragraph B, item 3 -

Disconnection with notice. Electric utility service may be disconnected after proper notice for any of these reasons

"violation of the electric utility's rules on using service in a manner which interferes with the service of others or the operation of nonstandard equipment, if a reasonable attempt has been made to notify the customer and the customer is provided with a reasonable opportunity to remedy the situation;"

Throttle the power on that segment to the point where their lack of electronic feedback creates conditions that interfere with the service of others, send a letter that their use of service in the non-feedback manner interferes, provide the feedback meter to remedy the situation, and after ONE attempt to switch them over (which should be preserved on camera) cut them off.

It's funny how that whole process is required because of Big Government sticking it's nose in the way that business functions. I continue to be amazed how liberals in texas manage to have faces that are NOT permanently frozen in expressions of ... They must be some of the most jaded people on the planet.

There's also breach of law, these yahoos are in violation of meter location requirements...

http://www.puc.state.tx.us/agency/rules ... 25.121.pdf

Location of meters.
(1) Meters and service switches in conjunction with the meter shall be installed in accordance with the latest revision of American National Standards Institute (ANSI), Incorporated, Standard C12 (American National Code for Electricity Metering), or other standards as may be prescribed by the commission, and will be readily accessible for reading, testing, and inspection, where such activities will cause minimum interference and inconvenience to the customer.
(2) Customer shall provide, without cost to the electric utility, at a suitable and easily accessible location:
(A) sufficient and proper space for installation of meters and other apparatus of electric utility;

Can't test the analog meter if it's got a cage around it. Violate the space requirements with that cage. Violate the accessibility requirements by barring power company folks. Violate the customer requirements by not providing these things as required by law.

Let them have their small government, and the power corp simply let them shrivel like raisins in the sun for threatening their employees.

I can sympathize to a certain point.
They are charging us (the customers) over $350 for each meter they replace (as a monthly surcharge on our bills), for the privilege of saving the electric company money on meter reading, all in a state that has been "deregulated to facilitate competition" and hence has some of the highest national rates.

Awake wrote:I can sympathize to a certain point.
They are charging us (the customers) over $350 for each meter they replace (as a monthly surcharge on our bills), for the privilege of saving the electric company money on meter reading, all in a state that has been "deregulated to facilitate competition" and hence has some of the highest national rates.

And that's a valid complaint...

But the nut bags who are worried that the power company is using the new meters to spy on people? Not so valid.

I don't really blame the certified nut cases who are complaining. All of this could have been resolved if Texas had done what other states implemented...

"...several states, including California, Vermont, Maine and Nevada, have allowed residents to opt out of the new system. In most cases, residents would have to pay extra to have a utility employee come to their house to read their old meter."

Way to go Texas. Still love ya!!!

Xela

GuitarsandGuns wrote:

Simmer down wrote:That makes me so damn mad I could spit. Obama and his lectric sheeeeit.

I have to admit I was thinking of you and Xela when I saw this.

There is a part of my that sides with this nutcase. I blame the state, and/or the electric company, from not having better foresight and keeping these types of wackos in mind.

Xela

Any validity in that woman's argument ended when she compared the Texas PUC to the Gestapo. These are the same kind of people who want to defund and privatize government services, you know...like building roads, police departments, fire and rescue services. This woman will also be the first to bitch about having to pay the private fire department upfront before they put out the blazing inferno that once was her house.

The Idiocracy isn't coming folks, it's here.

I was very skeptical of the smart meter critics until I saw the meterman the other day at work and asked him. He told me the mfg'er for Duke is Echelon (ELON) and they've been sued in Britain for spying on consumers. I have not been able to verify that though. Smartmeters apparently can detect the types of running appliances in a house and, as such, are part of a system to better manage electricity.

The meter man said smartmeters tend to be faulty and need replacing more often than the old meters (they're new?!) and that Echelon does not have a reliable commercial meter yet (businesses are billed on peak usage in addition to kilowatt hours). Furthermore, some Duke customers are getting old meters back based on RF concerns from what he told me.

http://www.smartmeterdangers.org/

I do not feel smartmeters are a bad thing, but they are adding to RF pollution as well as giving LE agencies an expanded database to tap. Kiss some more of your privacy good-bye.

The smartmeter on my house had my power restored after a terrible thunderstorm in less than 3 hours, and that was at 1am on Saturday night. Being able to pinpoint power outages and getting my A/C on in god-awful hot Texas is worth the small (if any) invasion of privacy. I personally don't give a hoot so long as the utility company can keep the power on.

Hey, Ultra, don't be betting on the innocence of these surly 'modern' meters! I was outside cleaning my MN and AK and the meter started spinning so fast i thought it was broke. Came the next bill and it had two charges with these initials : MN .5kw AK 1.5kw. Now they know. So I went out with a tin of 7.62 x 54r yellowtip and the meter just plain stopped. Within 5 min there was a utility man at the door inquiring if there were a problem. So buy unregistered guns, fill your garage with ammo, and wait for the skinhead Republicans to advance towards the wall,

You cannot make me believe that Ken Kesey and the good Doctor with Hunter thown in aren't laughing their collective asses off.

I be buying a bubba suit

paul and who started this oorah anyway. not the grunts i served with

Texas isn't the only place with loony tunes protesters about smart meters, California has vocal groups.
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/science/ ... 07-20.html

highdesert wrote:Texas isn't the only place with loony tunes protesters about smart meters, California has vocal groups.
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/science/ ... 07-20.html

High-tension power lines cause cancer. Vaccines cause autism. Masturbation causes blindness. And fluoridated water causes the zombie apocalypse or something.

Stupid is non-partisan.