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The Blaze is a Glenn Beck publication, which means slanted news. You might find the same story from another source that actually has facts, then you can compare.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TheBlaze

highdesert wrote:The Blaze is a Glenn Beck publication, which means slanted news. You might find the same story from another source that actually has facts, then you can compare.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TheBlaze

Thanks! I had no idea of it's affiliation since I don't follow Beck's crazy stuff or businesses.

Is the story then false? Not relayed accurately as I read it ?The story as posted by the link I enjoyed for the content not the messenger.

FECK BECK he is an ass

fishingal wrote:

highdesert wrote:The Blaze is a Glenn Beck publication, which means slanted news. You might find the same story from another source that actually has facts, then you can compare.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TheBlaze

Thanks! I had no idea of it's affiliation since I don't follow Beck's crazy stuff or businesses.

Is the story then false? Not relayed accurately as I read it ?The story as posted by the link I enjoyed for the content not the messenger.

http://www2.alabamas13.com/news/2012/au ... r-4355974/
Another source, the local news.

Still think she did the right thing and more women should follow her lead .

That ax also sounded pretty effective.

fishingal wrote:

fishingal wrote:

highdesert wrote:The Blaze is a Glenn Beck publication, which means slanted news. You might find the same story from another source that actually has facts, then you can compare.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TheBlaze

Thanks! I had no idea of it's affiliation since I don't follow Beck's crazy stuff or businesses.

Is the story then false? Not relayed accurately as I read it ?The story as posted by the link I enjoyed for the contentm not the messenger.

http://www2.alabamas13.com/news/2012/au ... r-4355974/
Amother source, the lcoal news.

Still think she did the right thing and more women should follow her lead .

I agree. All available information suggests a good example of justifiable use of lethal force.

irish, will you stop misspelling? You're thinking it, we're reading it and what you mean to say is accurate....go ahead, live a little....say it out loud...sort of. no one will think the less of you for it and I promise, lightening will not strike...if it does you can sue me...

What the hell are these people planning for that they have a gun, axe, and butcher knife in reach?

Bitches be trippin'...

Okay. Now I'm pissed because this is clearly the news taking shit out of context. Nothing new, but it's still infuriating.
Someone pull her aside and explain to her that no one is taking away a handgun to be used for self-defense in your home. In DC, with the strictest gun laws in the entire nation, you can still own a handgun and use it for self-defense in your own home. No one in backwards Dora, Alabamy is going to be losing that right anytime soon.

inmediasres wrote:What the hell are these people planning for that they have a gun, axe, and butcher knife in reach?

Bitches be trippin'...

Okay. Now I'm pissed because this is clearly the news taking shit out of context. Nothing new, but it's still infuriating.
Someone pull her aside and explain to her that no one is taking away a handgun to be used for self-defense in your home. In DC, with the strictest gun laws in the entire nation, you can still own a handgun and use it for self-defense in your own home. No one in backwards Dora, Alabamy is going to be losing that right anytime soon.

A woman and her two daughters just teaming up with what they had to defend themselves and their home. Mom told the girls to grab something to defend themselves just in case they were attacked . Sounds smart to me ? Women don't have a man's strength or ability generally for physical combat with an assailant, much less most girls .

Obama isn't taking anyones guns but the right is convincing some of this to scare them into voting against Obama. He let us carry in National parks and Bush didn't. Fear gone wild on the right from the NRA.

But, where do you keep your implements? She said she ran into their room and they picked things up. Where do you keep an axe and a butcher knife?

inmediasres wrote:But, where do you keep your implements? She said she ran into their room and they picked things up. Where do you keep an axe and a butcher knife?

I suppose they had planted them in case they were ever attacked alone or something? Many people keep baseball bats and stuff available I think for self defense that aren't shooters. Something is better than nothing when attacked at home . I know of women and men who keep something like a club or mace in case ? Me I have my guns. Each to their own line of defense?

Good news, they were prepared for whatever and it worked. Maybe a bad area they live in with high crime? I dunn?

inmediasres wrote:What the hell are these people planning for that they have a gun, axe, and butcher knife in reach?

Bitches be trippin'...

Okay. Now I'm pissed because this is clearly the news taking shit out of context. Nothing new, but it's still infuriating.
Someone pull her aside and explain to her that no one is taking away a handgun to be used for self-defense in your home. In DC, with the strictest gun laws in the entire nation, you can still own a handgun and use it for self-defense in your own home. No one in backwards Dora, Alabamy is going to be losing that right anytime soon.

A few things:

1.) You may mean it tongue in cheek, but "Bitches" is offensive and not a particularly good way to describe a woman who had to protect herself and her daughters from a person who broke into their home and would not leave.

2.) The story did not specify that they had gun, ax, and knife at hand, merely that they were able to access them. I don't know about you, but I have knives where I can get to one, and no, they are not specifically for self defense.

3.) In DC, up until Heller you could not have a functioning handgun even in your home for self defense which is why the case was taken to the SCOTUS to begin with. Currently there are justices who side with the right to keep and bear arms who decided 5-4 in favor of Heller. Unfortunately those are the same justices who decided Citizens United and other pro corporate cases.

How would you have preferred this story to turn out? The man makes it up the stairs, the girls and mom attack sans firearm, the man is able to overpower them, or maybe not all of them, but severely injures one or two of them before he breaks off his attack? What is the optimal, reality based solution here?

My issue isn't with what they did at all. I was good with the story until she turned it political. That is what frustrates me and lead me to comment.

The bitches thing was in poor taste, but it seemed funnier at the time.

Still confused by the knife and axe thing, but maybe they grabbed them when he left the first time? Not sure.

inmediasres wrote:My issue isn't with what they did at all. I was good with the story until she turned it political. That is what frustrates me and lead me to comment.

The bitches thing was in poor taste, but it seemed funnier at the time.

Still confused by the knife and axe thing, but maybe they grabbed them when he left the first time? Not sure.

True. I can see how that could get irritating. I would imagine that it was highlighted by the source The Blaze. I do see however, that these things are political. There are groups working to take away, or at least restrict gun ownership rights to the point where they would likely be useless for self defense. It was a long time ago, but there were internal memos from either Brady or VPC that stated the incremental approach to eliminating gun ownership. I doubt that they have turned away from that mission. After every mass shooting, there is the statements about how now is the time to talk about increasing restrictions and reinstating laws and other measures. From the other side there are always comments about freedom and the like.

The woman was probably parroting some idea about her fear of losing the ability to defend herself.