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Another mental irregular, this one right from my own back yard. Armed with a Sig and 15 Chick-fil-A sandwiches (presumably for stamina), he shot a security guard/building manager in the arm.

In a brilliant display of inductive reasoning, the FRC immediately blamed the SPLC (“but Corkins was given a license to shoot an unarmed man by organizations like the Southern Poverty Law Center.”). Well done.

Fortunately, nobody died.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/08/16/us/dc-shooting-blame/

The chick fil a sandwiches.... I'm imagining a moment like in apoc now, where the heli guy was flipping playing cards onto the dead.

These right wing nut jobs are gonna get guns banned.

"The Family Research Council says it promotes 'faith, family and freedom in public policy and public opinion.'"

It is beginning to get mentally painful to have to imagine "freedom... along the lines we decree". It's like bending a knee backwards... My brain doesn't want to bend that way.

The SPLC criticizes the Family Research Council for asserting, "in Perkins' words, that pedophilia is 'a homosexual problem' -- an utter falsehood, as every relevant scientific authority has stated. An FRC official has said he wanted to 'export homosexuals from the United States.' The same official advocated the criminalizing of homosexuality."

Perkins was using Wednesday's shooting "to pose a false equivalency between the SPLC's criticisms of the FRC and the FRC's criticisms of LGBT people," the SPLC said. "The FRC routinely pushes out demonizing claims that gay people are child molesters and worse -- claims that are provably false. It should stop the demonization and affirm the dignity of all people."

The facts are that the vast majority of child molesters are heterosexual, but FRC is more concerned with baiting, hating and headlines than facts.

Corkins' parents in Herndon, Va., told investigators that their son had "strong opinions" about those whose viewpoints on gay rights differed from his own. Corkins [the shooter] had been a volunteer at the DC Center for the LGBT Community, its director said.

"I was shocked to hear that someone who has volunteered with the DC Center could be the cause of such a tragic act of violence,” director David Mariner said in a statement. “No matter the circumstances, we condemn such violence in the strongest terms possible.”

http://www.latimes.com/news/nation/nati ... 9584.story

I expect huge whining and many the false equivalency from the hapless right...

CDFingers

I see DC's hate crime laws being used in this case. The sad thing is that they'll fit, too.

While I can understand the gunman's motives, I disagree with the use of violence.

begemot wrote:...15 Chick-fil-A sandwiches (presumably for stamina)...

Sounds like he got to a Chic-fil-A only to chicken out.

begemot wrote:Armed with a Sig and 15 Chick-fil-A sandwiches (presumably for stamina)

Can we ban Chick-fil-a sandwiches?

I condemn the shooting and don't see why it's funny. I usually have a good sense of humor but not about murdered people.

JayFromPA wrote:The chick fil a sandwiches.... I'm imagining a moment like in apoc now, where the heli guy was flipping playing cards onto the dead.

Good point. I didn't even think of that potentially sinister association. That's absurd enough to be appropriately symbolic in a twisted mind. 15 sandwiches...I wonder if the Sig he was using had a 15 round capacity mag. Really creepy.

Glad the security guard did his job and there were no serious injuries.

Yeah, FRC said, essentially, that SPLC's calling them a hate group caused it, and that the SPLC should stop calling them a hate group so more people don't do this.

Uh, hate to break the news to you, calling you a hate group doesn't cause this any more than calling Batman a violent movie caused that shooting.

And I'll stop calling you a hate group when you stop promoting hate.

begemot wrote:

JayFromPA wrote:The chick fil a sandwiches.... I'm imagining a moment like in apoc now, where the heli guy was flipping playing cards onto the dead.

Good point. I didn't even think of that potentially sinister association. That's absurd enough to be appropriately symbolic in a twisted mind. 15 sandwiches...I wonder if the Sig he was using had a 15 round capacity mag. Really creepy.

Glad the security guard did his job and there were no serious injuries.

Actually, yeah, the spare mags he had were 15 rounders of 9mm. So checking the sig site, he had either a model 226 or a model 250.

GuitarsandGuns wrote:I condemn the shooting and don't see why it's funny. I usually have a good sense of humor but not about murdered people.

I agree about condemning the shooting and it not being funny, or something to joke about. We tend to use humor to distance ourselves from situations that scare us or make us uncomfortable. However, there weren't any people murdered in this instance. There were some injuries but not deaths fortunately.

There are people who become so passionate or paranoid about issues that they fail to control their impulses. Some people justify their behaviors by pointing out how the group they committed violence against "deserved it" by their own actions.

The Family Research Council is a hate group. They specifically hate against gay people and their agenda is to rid themselves of gay people. They are a hate group. The people who work there however, do not deserve to be attacked and killed, even by someone who has been injured by their policy positions. We should work to shut organizations like FRC down, but by making them irrelevant, not by violence.

Caliman73 wrote:

GuitarsandGuns wrote:I condemn the shooting and don't see why it's funny. I usually have a good sense of humor but not about murdered people.

I agree about condemning the shooting and it not being funny, or something to joke about. We tend to use humor to distance ourselves from situations that scare us or make us uncomfortable. However, there weren't any people murdered in this instance. There were some injuries but not deaths fortunately.

There are people who become so passionate or paranoid about issues that they fail to control their impulses. Some people justify their behaviors by pointing out how the group they committed violence against "deserved it" by their own actions.

The Family Research Council is a hate group. They specifically hate against gay people and their agenda is to rid themselves of gay people. They are a hate group. The people who work there however, do not deserve to be attacked and killed, even by someone who has been injured by their policy positions. We should work to shut organizations like FRC down, but by making them irrelevant, not by violence.

FWIW, I appreciate the opinions expressed, and apologize if my post gave the impression of insensitivity to the issue, but there's a difference between funny and absurd. Elements of this event were absolutely absurd and still are. There were no murders involved here and I didn't see any posts that did not condemn or encourage the shooting, which is why I feel comfortable posting a story like this on the forum and not worrying about encouraging the "kill 'em all" nutjobs that crawl out from behind the wallpaper on other firearm forums. And yes, humor is a legitimate way to deal with disturbing events - this is apparent on many other threads here by very regular posters.