The Liberal Gun Club Forum

Skeptilius wrote:

beto wrote: I do have a problem that the ammo is dropped off on my porch (some one was home every time ) without any one receiving it. It is dropped off in a plain box labeled ammunition. We find it when we trip over it . I am glad this bill is going nowhere but I do think the rules could be tightened so I would have to sign for it.

Who delivered your ammo? Was it Fed Ex? I also have a real problem with "valuable" stuff being delivered and simply dropped off without anyone signing for it. Fed Ex is bad about that. I once had a $3,000 accordion delivered to me and Fed Ex left it sitting in the hall of my apartment complex while I was out. Anyone could have picked it up. But that is a shipper problem, not necessarily the original merchant's problem.

I know that a lot of shippers can require a signature if you want them to. I have the luxury of having stuff sent to my office if need be. I tend to only buy ammo in large quantities from online retailers because I get a break on the shipping. I get free shipping if I order a case. I would have ordered a ton of 16 gauge at this point if it weren't for the shipping costs.

I believe that they tried to do this in California with handgun ammunition. It was ruled unconstitutional.

Caliman73 wrote:I believe that they tried to do this in California with handgun ammunition. It was ruled unconstitutional.

They did some other wacky thing that was so ill conceived that it had to lose in court.

There are several cities counties in CA that you can't get ammo shipped to.

If they made buying ammo online easier, but required a FFL transfer, with a modest fee that might eliminate some of the price advantage (like a local tariff),then perhaps the local guy we'd pick up from would know what, for how much ($), and how much (#) we all like buying, and be able to respond to the specific needs of their local gun community... a little free market research.

Ammo sales restricted?
A more likely scenario:
Santorum drives Sandusky to a Chic-Fil-A where he then sodomizes a Boy Scout and recieves a high five from Newt Gingrich. Again.

goosekiller wrote: Santorum drives Sandusky to a Chic-Fil-A where he then sodomizes a Boy Scout and recieves a high five from Newt Gingrich. Again.

THERE'S THE MONEY SHOT!

goosekiller wrote:Ammo sales restricted?
A more likely scenario:
Santorum drives Sandusky to a Chic-Fil-A where he then sodomizes a Boy Scout and recieves a high five from Newt Gingrich. Again.

FAR more likely.

Aren't most of those claimed 48,000(?) gun deaths by folks who couldn't/wouldn't have 6,000 anythings in their poassesion? I mean, really: kids whose parents don't practice good gun safety, hunting accidents, even VaTech etc, man/woman coming home to their SO in bed with someone, robbing banks/convenience stores/etc, gang bangers. And even in many of these cases there are no 'hi capacity' mags involved. High capacity is a number that grows smaller everytime there is a shooting. And if 48,000 were actually accurate, isn't that something like < .02% of the population? Sorry, but I could live with that. And at CTD, where i buy my discount ammo, all i do is say i am a fine person and the ammo finds me everytime. Went to buy my 7.62 x 54R from ma LGS but the one place that was reasonable, could not get any for a while(?). The other fucking place, who charges $50 for an FFL xfer, has wacky pricing.

I lived in Vermot for many years and liked their policy best. Have your weapons and ammo but do something stupid and they will do something stupid to you!

Sorry for ranting but these feel good pieces of shit proposed legislation suck.

paul

dbluefish wrote:these feel good pieces of shit proposed legislation suck.

They don't work at all. Murder is already illegal - 'nuff said.

But who truly needs more than a few hundred rounds? Other than the guano-insane Right, that is. Please justify your need for a thousand rounds.

goosekiller wrote:

dbluefish wrote:these feel good pieces of shit proposed legislation suck.

They don't work at all. Murder is already illegal - 'nuff said.

But who truly needs more than a few hundred rounds? Other than the guano-insane Right, that is. Please justify your need for a thousand rounds.

1. Becuase buying in bulk is cheap.
2. I'm not rich
3. I like the crates
4. Because, that's why.

Edit: removed some foul language, it was nothing personal but a reference to the article on 30 round magazines posted here a few days ago.

gendoikari87 wrote:

goosekiller wrote:

dbluefish wrote:these feel good pieces of shit proposed legislation suck.

They don't work at all. Murder is already illegal - 'nuff said.

But who truly needs more than a few hundred rounds? Other than the guano-insane Right, that is. Please justify your need for a thousand rounds.

1. Becuase buying in bulk is cheap.
2. I'm not rich
3. I like the crates
4. Because, fuck you, that's why.

Sadly, it is cheaper. I save probably $80-$100 on 9mm depending on what brand I'm buying at the time. As long as I buy it by the case, I get free shipping. I have one or two brands that I know work well and I alternate between them based on what is in stock. When you're going through two cases every three months, you have to buy online.

My only other option that I'm going to start exploring is buying once fired reloads at a show. They worked out well in the .44 mag I bought so the 9mm should be just as good. If I switch to reloads, I can probably drop my costs by another $50 or so.

5. To take advantage of lower prices before the election gouging starts.

whitey wrote:5. To take advantage of lower prices before the election gouging starts.

This brings up another problem I've been having.

Ammunition prices haven't really shot up, but everyone is afraid they will with the election. I know it's all illegitimate fear built up by Republicans. I don't want to buy ammunition because I know people are full of shit. However, the price will go up. Basically, I think I'm being forced to stockpile because everyone else is too stupid to realize they don't need to.

inmediasres wrote:

whitey wrote:5. To take advantage of lower prices before the election gouging starts.

This brings up another problem I've been having.

Ammunition prices haven't really shot up, but everyone is afraid they will with the election. I know it's all illegitimate fear built up by Republicans. I don't want to buy ammunition because I know people are full of shit. However, the price will go up. Basically, I think I'm being forced to stockpile because everyone else is too stupid to realize they don't need to.

I see no problem stacking high and building deep as long as it doesn't interfere with other financial needs.

Fortunately, there's a reloading shop in the next county that has better prices than most I've seen online. $27 got me a pound of Tac and small primers w/sales tax.

I need to get over to Hi-Tech Ammo before their prices go up again. The 8# keg of 844 is up to $89. It was $80 last month.

The proposed legislation by McCarthy sucks and I don't support it.

On the other hand, I would be fine with requiring sellers to notify the FBI/ATF/DHS (whatever) for single purchase ammo sales in excess of 1K or 2K or what-not.

Outright Prohibition of online ammo sales is wrong; But notification of law enforcement for extremely large orders? I got no problem with that and would concede it to the itchy gun-grabbers as a peace offering.

Completely off topic, but if I ever do sell any of my current guns at a gun show and some wiseass trying to buy one says "Good thing I'm getting this at a gun show, hur hur, I probably couldn't pass a background check, hur hur.", I'm saying "This sale is terminated; kindly step away from my table and go on about your business someplace else."

goosekiller wrote:

dbluefish wrote:these feel good pieces of shit proposed legislation suck.

They don't work at all. Murder is already illegal - 'nuff said.

But who truly needs more than a few hundred rounds? Other than the guano-insane Right, that is. Please justify your need for a thousand rounds.

Two words, bulk discount.

Two more words: three gun.

I might only be 1/6th into what I need for 3 gun, but that is something that interests me. Several thousands of rounds will be what I go through each year by my projections.

That isn't to say that we can't have guano-crazy lefties, either. I'm just not a dangerous one.

ErikO wrote:

goosekiller wrote:

dbluefish wrote:these feel good pieces of shit proposed legislation suck.

They don't work at all. Murder is already illegal - 'nuff said.

But who truly needs more than a few hundred rounds? Other than the guano-insane Right, that is. Please justify your need for a thousand rounds.

Two words, bulk discount.

Two more words: three gun.

I might only be 1/6th into what I need for 3 gun, but that is something that interests me. Several thousands of rounds will be what I go through each year by my projections.

That isn't to say that we can't have guano-crazy lefties, either. I'm just not a dangerous one.

I could never get into three gun. It would bankrupt me. No way in hell I could afford the ammunition.

I usually keep at least 500 rounds of 22lr, then I try to keep at least 25-50 rounds of each calibre for each gun.

.25acp (I shot the little Colt once, probably 40 rounds)
.32acp (At least 50 rounds for the colt and another 20ish for the seecamp)
.32sw (little less than 50 for the Nagant)
.380acp (about 50 target rounds and another 20 JHP)
.38spl (about 50-75 left for the smith and the 2 rugers)
.357mag (less than 50 for the blackhawk)
9mm Mak (about 100 left for the cz)
.40sw (about 75 for the sig)
.45acp (think I am down to 50)
30-30win (about 25 left for the marlin)
7.62x54r (I think I still have over 150 bulg surplus for the MN)
12ga (40 for that Stoeger you guys told me not to get)

Over 1200 cartridges. Do I need it? I burn about 50 rounds every weekend, sometimes more. And I do shoot most of those weapons.

Then there is the smoke wagon fixins'

JJR1971 wrote:The proposed legislation by McCarthy sucks and I don't support it.

On the other hand, I would be fine with requiring sellers to notify the FBI/ATF/DHS (whatever) for single purchase ammo sales in excess of 1K or 2K or what-not.

Outright Prohibition of online ammo sales is wrong; But notification of law enforcement for extremely large orders? I got no problem with that and would concede it to the itchy gun-grabbers as a peace offering.

Completely off topic, but if I ever do sell any of my current guns at a gun show and some wiseass trying to buy one says "Good thing I'm getting this at a gun show, hur hur, I probably couldn't pass a background check, hur hur.", I'm saying "This sale is terminated; kindly step away from my table and go on about your business someplace else."

On several occasions, I've purchased several thousand rounds of ammo in large bulk as part of a group buy due to a giant discount. So on paper I bought thousands of rounds but in reality it was typically a few hundred on any given occasion. I would wager most people purchasing thousands of rounds of ammunition are doing a group buy where it's actually multiple people buying but doing it as one order to take advantage of bulk discounts.

Mind you, the people who are really loading up on thousands upon thousands of rounds are likely reloading them, not buying them. You think buying milsurp is cheap in bulk? Try components in bulk. I've got about 1500 JSP .357 projectiles sitting at my workbench along with 500+ plated 9mm just waiting to be pressed into cases.

Wurble wrote:

JJR1971 wrote:The proposed legislation by McCarthy sucks and I don't support it.

On the other hand, I would be fine with requiring sellers to notify the FBI/ATF/DHS (whatever) for single purchase ammo sales in excess of 1K or 2K or what-not.

Outright Prohibition of online ammo sales is wrong; But notification of law enforcement for extremely large orders? I got no problem with that and would concede it to the itchy gun-grabbers as a peace offering.

Completely off topic, but if I ever do sell any of my current guns at a gun show and some wiseass trying to buy one says "Good thing I'm getting this at a gun show, hur hur, I probably couldn't pass a background check, hur hur.", I'm saying "This sale is terminated; kindly step away from my table and go on about your business someplace else."

On several occasions, I've purchased several thousand rounds of ammo in large bulk as part of a group buy due to a giant discount. I would wager most people purchasing thousands of rounds of ammunition are doing a group buy where it's actually multiple people buying but doing it as one order to take advantage of bulk discounts.

That or you're shooting competitively and don't want to reload for one reason or another. Though this is usually pistol rounds. If you're shooting rifle for accuracy, I would imagine you're almost always reloading to get as accurate and consistent a round as possible.

Before I got married two years ago, I was shooting 1200+ rounds a month. Buying retail would suck a monster choad. I reload to make it affordable but if I did not, I would definitely buy bulk.

THIS is why i love this place.
All responses to why one might need to purchase 1000 rounds are based on frugality, not paranoia.








Cheap fuckers...

goosekiller wrote:THIS is why i love this place.
All responses to why one might need to purchase 1000 rounds are based on frugality, not paranoia.








Cheap fuckers...

you say cheap like it's a bad thing? Also why would anyone "prepping" out of paranoia need a 1000 rounds, I mean what's the max your realistically going to be carrying? 200? Maybe 300? I laugh at the guy that thinks an extra 800 rounds is more important than a first aid kit. or for that matter a good shovel and seed.

JJR1971 wrote:Completely off topic, but if I ever do sell any of my current guns at a gun show and some wiseass trying to buy one says "Good thing I'm getting this at a gun show, hur hur, I probably couldn't pass a background check, hur hur.", I'm saying "This sale is terminated; kindly step away from my table and go on about your business someplace else."

I'd take the route of "This ID is going in my pocket and if you are smart you'll wait here calmly and peacefully for the cops".

With any luck, someone will have to do some explaining as to why a NYPD officer was either running an op outside of jurisdiction using undercover identification, or attempting to commit a felony by purchasing under false identification.

1000's of rounds does not sound like much when I take my AK to the range! My MN, which is as much fun in its way, fires about as quickly as a muzzle loader, so its can of 440 will last a while

Dumb proposal on the part of New York's politicians with no hope of passing.

paul