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Okay I'm pretty much a rule follower I don't try to cheat people I don't lowball I wait in line. I don't play every angle.
I go in for jury duty on the first call. Pretty much just do what you are supposed to do.

Speed limits I sometimes have trouble with and May have had issues with local gun ordinances. But that is about it.

I even buy a $5 dog license.

Am I being stupid?
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I call it being a responsible citizen. Thats how I try and live my life. At the end of the day, all that matters is what you think about what you're doing.
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Paladin wrote:Okay I'm pretty much a rule follower I don't try to cheat people I don't lowball I wait in line. I don't play every angle.
I go in for jury duty on the first call. Pretty much just do what you are supposed to do.

Speed limits I sometimes have trouble with and May have had issues with local gun ordinances. But that is about it.

I even buy a $5 dog license.

Am I being stupid?
A teenager might say so. I call it acting like an adult.
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A few years back, my brother-in-law, who errs toward the conservative side, and I were discussing politics and society when he said to me if everyone just followed the rules, we wouldn't have all these problems.

What he said inexplicably grated on me, so I thought about it for a few seconds and finally told him if everyone just followed the rules, Negroes would still be riding the back of the bus and we'd all be Canadians.

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Neutral Good here. Rules that apply to safety (of others) I generally adhere to, and rules that exist to actually protect justice (like those prohibiting murder, rape, and robbery) I adhere to. However, there are plenty of rules that are just there because some authoritarian decided to make a rule...those, well, maybe I don't care so much for those.
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This is also my argument for and against a libertarian society. It only works if everyone buys in an and the market exists for you and the benefit of the society. As soon as someone exploits a weakness it falls apart.
An intellectual is someone that can change their mind after being given enough evidence.

“ I nearly murdered somebody, and it made me realise that you can't face violence with violence. It doesn't work. ”

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I tend to follow most of the rules, most of the time. I do agree that there are bad laws out there, and there are laws that I am ignorant of (which I'm told is no excuse :) )

I tend to drive a bit fast, but I'm by no means the fastest person on the road. I haven't been stopped for quite a while (now I've done it, jynxed myself for sure.)

You mentioned "lowballing" as one of the rules. There is nothing wrong with trying to get the best price, and tossing out a lowball offer is one of the negotiation tools. It's not against any rules, and what's the worst that can happen? The other person says "no" and you move on from there.

The one hard fast rule I follow (and many others don't seem to) is "Treat others as you would like to be treated."
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Question the rules, Examine the rules, Determine if the rule is worth following for yourself.
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Fukshot wrote:I used to break rules for sport. I retired from that.

Now I only break them for justice.
^^^THIS
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Ultravox wrote: You mentioned "lowballing" as one of the rules. There is nothing wrong with trying to get the best price, and tossing out a lowball offer is one of the negotiation tools. It's not against any rules, and what's the worst that can happen? The other person says "no" and you move on from there.
I also did a double-take on that one because I first understood it like you did. However, lowballing also refers to the practice of giving an low quote for a job, a quote which is really too low to make a profit, but knowing full well that you'll later tack on some "extra" fees to make a profit. So you look better than the competitors and the client hires you thinking that the quote you gave them is what it will cost.
And there comes a time when one must take a position that is neither safe, nor politic, nor popular, but he must do it because Conscience tells him it is right. -- MLK

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I mentioned to our new superior court judge friend that I had heard that most laws are made by people who don't like their neighbor's behavior. He agreed.

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lemur wrote:
Ultravox wrote: You mentioned "lowballing" as one of the rules. There is nothing wrong with trying to get the best price, and tossing out a lowball offer is one of the negotiation tools. It's not against any rules, and what's the worst that can happen? The other person says "no" and you move on from there.
I also did a double-take on that one because I first understood it like you did. However, lowballing also refers to the practice of giving an low quote for a job, a quote which is really too low to make a profit, but knowing full well that you'll later tack on some "extra" fees to make a profit. So you look better than the competitors and the client hires you thinking that the quote you gave them is what it will cost.
Ah, true, I hadn't thought if it that way. Thanks!
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There are a lot of words for it; responsible, honest...whatever.

My take on it can be summarized by a line from Robert's Shantaram regarding determining Right and Wrong;
What if everyone did it?
No, you're not being stupid.
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Queen wrote:I try my best to be wise and follow the advice in my sig line.
ditto ^^... I try to follow mine
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The only rule I don't break is my own rule to break only one rule at a time. And then, I don't tend to draw much attention to myself anyway.
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Yossarian wrote:The only rule I don't break is my own rule to break only one rule at a time. And then, I don't tend to draw much attention to myself anyway.
So you're saying: after committing murder, don't speed with the body in the trunk? Yeah, I guess that makes sense. :whistle:
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