http://www.austinchronicle.com/blogs/ne ... -thinking/

"Knowledge-Based Education – We oppose the teaching of Higher Order Thinking Skills (HOTS) (values clarification), critical thinking skills and similar programs that are simply a relabeling of Outcome-Based Education (OBE) (mastery learning) which focus on behavior modification and have the purpose of challenging the student’s fixed beliefs and undermining parental authority."

Sheepishlion wrote:http://www.austinchronicle.com/blogs/ne ... -thinking/

"Knowledge-Based Education – We oppose the teaching of Higher Order Thinking Skills (HOTS) (values clarification), critical thinking skills and similar programs that are simply a relabeling of Outcome-Based Education (OBE) (mastery learning) which focus on behavior modification and have the purpose of challenging the student’s fixed beliefs and undermining parental authority."

Oi.



Xela

We oppose the teaching of Higher Order Thinking Skills

That says it right there. They just cannon fodder that shops.

Sad but true. I try to do my part by speaking up when I hear someone parrotting their lines. If nothing else I can let others know not 100% of the citizens swallow that crap. Maybe it will be the only thinking they do that day.

Working with faith-based agencies is sometimes like going down the rabbit hole. If I have to accept a few quirkly premises to get the job done I'll try but if those premises make the job impossible I have to call it. I've said before , "These un-related beliefs of your are actually counter to what you say your goals are and I won't be able to make this work." A few have said we shouldn't work together and I agree but most are willing to focus on the goal rather than be true to their initial position when it gets right down to it.

have the purpose of challenging the student’s fixed beliefs

Nobody should have fixed beliefs. All beliefs should be subject to change upon re-examination or new information.
If my 'fixed beliefs' hadn't been subject to change, I'd still be the racist s.o.b. I was when I left Florida to go into the Navy.

Of course, to some people that would be a good thing.
And explains why large segments of my family pray for me a lot.

I should start a cult. When the economy collapses people are going to need something to turn to, and that something is going to be the equivalent of rich in the post collapse world.

Public education, at its best, has always been about undermining fixed beliefs and parental authority -- at least to the extent the parents are dogmatic, ignorant bigots.

That is what is so subversive, and beautiful, about it.

The usual right wing response is simply to defund and destroy public education as a whole, rather than saying why they hate it, as they do this case. The TX GOP honesty is kind of refreshing.

larrymod wrote:Public education, at its best, has always been about undermining fixed beliefs and parental authority -- at least to the extent the parents are dogmatic, ignorant bigots.

That is what is so subversive, and beautiful, about it.

The usual right wing response is simply to defund and destroy public education as a whole, rather than saying why they hate it, as they do this case. The TX GOP honesty is kind of refreshing.

Governor Perry is pushing home schooling while defunding and destroying public education. My home schooled neighbors think having an open mind will let in the evil spirits or turn you gay.

Sheepishlion wrote: My home schooled neighbors think having an open mind will let in the evil spirits or turn you gay.

Proof to the contrary: http://goproud.org/page.aspx?pid=278

Fukshot wrote:

Sheepishlion wrote: My home schooled neighbors think having an open mind will let in the evil spirits or turn you gay.

Proof to the contrary: http://goproud.org/page.aspx?pid=278

This is outside my comprehension. If I were gay I'd be a militant gay and not a gop pal. But that's just me in a situation I've never been in.

Simmer down wrote:

Fukshot wrote:

Sheepishlion wrote: My home schooled neighbors think having an open mind will let in the evil spirits or turn you gay.

Proof to the contrary: http://goproud.org/page.aspx?pid=278

This is outside my comprehension. If I were gay I'd be a militant gay and not a gop pal. But that's just me in a situation I've never been in.

Just like some folks are surprised by the existence of liberal gun owners, US politics make us think that there is no way that there could be a conservative gay ideology. You'll notice that both of these situations are the result of the wacky right's ability to control the framing of issues. There are narrow-minded, misogynistic, racist, transphobic, ignorant, hateful, gay men who only espouse anything vaguely resembling progressive politics out of self-interest. There are also the astoundingly quislings that I linked to, who value their class superiority more than they value equal treatment under the law for their sexuality.

Clearly, there is no link between critical thinking, open-mindedness and being gay. Gay people have the same right to be imbeciles as straight people.

Gay people have the same right to be imbeciles as straight people.

I'm not quite so sure in a democratic society where any non felon over the age of 18 can vote, that stupidity should be a right. Either you show you can exercise logical reasoning abilities in order to vote, or you outlaw the stupid. Eitherway, it's a horrible idea to have people deciding the fate of our nation that can't reason logically.

gendoikari87 wrote:

Gay people have the same right to be imbeciles as straight people.

I'm not quite so sure in a democratic society where any non felon over the age of 18 can vote, that stupidity should be a right. Either you show you can exercise logical reasoning abilities in order to vote, or you outlaw the stupid. Eitherway, it's a horrible idea to have people deciding the fate of our nation that can't reason logically.

I hope your being sarcastic.

whitey wrote:

gendoikari87 wrote:

Gay people have the same right to be imbeciles as straight people.

I'm not quite so sure in a democratic society where any non felon over the age of 18 can vote, that stupidity should be a right. Either you show you can exercise logical reasoning abilities in order to vote, or you outlaw the stupid. Eitherway, it's a horrible idea to have people deciding the fate of our nation that can't reason logically.

I hope your being sarcastic.

Half way, On the one side you have liberty, which grants every man a say. On the other you have logistics, and an actual fair and effective governing body. You have two options however, to make a democracy work. The first is as I stated, restriction of the voting rights to those who understand logic and reason. The other is a high standard of education so that the few who are retards don't have enough say to put tyrants or morons into office.

So is restriction the way to go? I don't know, but I personally prefer better education, seems the best of both worlds. But you can't have a true democracy, that works, without a highly educated base. There is of course, the alternative of accepting that the malevolent will always rule the world with golden rod and silver tounge and drinking up until this fact no longer bothers you.

Cheers

gendoikari87 wrote:I should start a cult. When the economy collapses people are going to need something to turn to, and that something is going to be the equivalent of rich in the post collapse world.

That's right baby.
You think there's money in politics? The real money is in religion.

from bartcop.com

CDFingers

The topic should read:

(Texas) GOP opposes critical thinking

SenileDavid wrote:The topic should read:

(Texas) GOP opposes critical thinking

Good article in Talk To Action today about David Barton, Teavangelist revisionist historian. He feeds the Glenn Becks (and minions) of the far right a lot of the misinformation they spew. Kinda like a T'bagger version of Orwell's 1984's Ministry of Truth .