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Revisionist History coming out of Texas
Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 11:00 pm
by LibShooter
This is very very dangerous. When kids are taught lies throughout their formative years, it's very difficult to re-educate them as adults. If we can't find a way to negate this shit, we're fucked.
http://billmoyers.com/content/messing-w ... textbooks/
Re: Revisionist History coming out of Texas
Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 11:08 pm
by Skeptilius
The Texas Board of Education is am embarrassment for anyone with a working brain.
Re: Revisionist History coming out of Texas
Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 11:18 pm
by gendoikari87
ladies and gentlemen, welcome to 1984.
Re: Revisionist History coming out of Texas
Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 11:51 pm
by JayFromPA
And people wonder why I want to get a more hands-off policy on the method of education. We plainly cannot legally force changes to the curriculum of the state of texas, not without creating one hell of an authoritarian legal infrastructure that we would impale ourselves on some amount of totalitarianism.
So, since we can't force the texans to teach the truth, and we obviously cannot use micromanagement styles to create educational success.... then the answer must be to head the other way. Back off the states, and in just a couple years when it becomes apparent that the uneducated texans are going to be the ditch diggers of the nation, employed by the well educated people of new hampshire and california and washington and illinois and even kansas.... then you'll see the texas legislature and the texas school boards eat whole flocks of crow.
Yeah, it's the "Let them fuck themselves up a bit so as to learn from the experience" method. I think it would work.
Re: Revisionist History coming out of Texas
Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 12:05 am
by gendoikari87
JayFromPA wrote:And people wonder why I want to get a more hands-off policy on the method of education. We plainly cannot legally force changes to the curriculum of the state of texas, not without creating one hell of an authoritarian legal infrastructure that we would impale ourselves on some amount of totalitarianism.
So, since we can't force the texans to teach the truth, and we obviously cannot use micromanagement styles to create educational success.... then the answer must be to head the other way. Back off the states, and in just a couple years when it becomes apparent that the uneducated texans are going to be the ditch diggers of the nation, employed by the well educated people of new hampshire and california and washington and illinois and even kansas.... then you'll see the texas legislature and the texas school boards eat whole flocks of crow.
Yeah, it's the "Let them fuck themselves up a bit so as to learn from the experience" method. I think it would work.
won't work when you have states like georgia paying people to go to school for the sciences and business while completely whitewashing history. Yup, georgia is the real life version of the mechanicus. Dogmatic, with some technology.
Re: Revisionist History coming out of Texas
Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 8:34 am
by Simmer down
We don't need no education.
Re: Revisionist History coming out of Texas
Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 9:12 am
by Gnigma
Jay Leno said that for the first time in history, more Asians than any other ethnic group are immigrating to America: they're doing all the jobs Americans aren't smart enough to do!
I've been telling people for years that the Chinese are going to take over the world. And they'll do it without firing a shot. It's already started. There are now countries in Eastern Europe, Africa, and South America with more Chinese than natives. Nobody else was interested in building up their infrastructure, and the Chinese had one stipulation: they'll send workers, but you have to let them stay. Sure, it will take a hundred years, maybe two hundred--- China has been there for seven thousand years. What's a couple of hundred?
China has been conquered many times throughout history. After several generations of interbreeding, their conquerors are all gone. China remains. It is one of the most resilient and persistent cultures in the history of the world. They are survivors. Funny, Texas is one of the places in the US where the Chinese are moving. Texas can put whatever spin they want on history, because, ultimately, the Chinese are Chinese. I wonder how long it will be before Mandarin is offered as a foreign language in high schools?
Personally, I think it will be an improvement.
Re: Revisionist History coming out of Texas
Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 9:53 am
by Skeptilius
Gnigma wrote:Jay Leno said that for the first time in history, more Asians than any other ethnic group are immigrating to America: they're doing all the jobs Americans aren't smart enough to do!
I've been telling people for years that the Chinese are going to take over the world. And they'll do it without firing a shot. It's already started. There are now countries in Eastern Europe, Africa, and South America with more Chinese than natives. Nobody else was interested in building up their infrastructure, and the Chinese had one stipulation: they'll send workers, but you have to let them stay. Sure, it will take a hundred years, maybe two hundred--- China has been there for seven thousand years. What's a couple of hundred?
China has been conquered many times throughout history. After several generations of interbreeding, their conquerors are all gone. China remains. It is one of the most resilient and persistent cultures in the history of the world. They are survivors. Funny, Texas is one of the places in the US where the Chinese are moving. Texas can put whatever spin they want on history, because, ultimately, the Chinese are Chinese. I wonder how long it will be before Mandarin is offered as a foreign language in high schools?
I'm for anything that will overcome the evangelical influence in this state.
Personally, I think it will be an improvement.
Re: Revisionist History coming out of Texas
Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 9:54 am
by Skeptilius
I'm for anything that will overcome the evangelical influence in this state.
Re: Revisionist History coming out of Texas
Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 11:04 am
by Fukshot
Gnigma wrote:There are now countries in Eastern Europe, Africa, and South America with more Chinese than natives. Nobody else was interested in building up their infrastructure, and the Chinese had one stipulation: they'll send workers, but you have to let them stay.
You must have learned this in a Texas textbook?
Re: Revisionist History coming out of Texas
Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 11:25 am
by JinxRemoving
The saddest part, to me, are the bright kids that can reason their way out of a paper bag, whose academic records and careers will be stymied by the half-wit automatons who peddle this bag of shit.
Re: Revisionist History coming out of Texas
Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 11:25 am
by SwampGrouch
That's one reason I support Americans United for Separation of Church and State (
http://au.org).
Re: Revisionist History coming out of Texas
Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 11:31 am
by Gnigma
You mean I can't trust the TV?

Re: Revisionist History coming out of Texas
Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 3:55 pm
by Xela
Thanks for the reminder LibShooter.
I'll be keeping my eyes open for the Dem candidate in my district:
http://www.tfn.org/site/PageServer?page ... _elections
Not much about her positions on her website at the moment though:
http://loisparrott.com/main.html
Xela
Re: Revisionist History coming out of Texas
Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 6:28 pm
by bigmike0301
Skeptilius wrote:I'm for anything that will overcome the evangelical influence in this state.
Richard Dawkins [i]Minneapolis Star Tribune[/i] August 25, 2011 wrote:In today's Republican Party 'in spite of' is not the phrase we need. Ignorance and lack of education are positive qualifications, bordering on obligatory.
That is the way Texas politicos get elected. Witness the Prayer-palooza Rick Perry pulled in the Astro-Dome when he was making his presidential run. Down here, having your picture made on the church steps was good for a 5-8% bump with voters. Perry rode that horse to victory multiple times. Add the goober factor and he was a shoo-in with the electorate.
He tried to expand this model to the other 49 states. The ticket now is some form of "I hate Obama"
The Board of Education has been infested for many years with these fundy wing nuts. It started with Mel and Norma Gabler who battled against 'the New Math'. It encouraged independent thinking. Fast forward to the former Chairman of the Texas Board of Education.
Don McElroy wrote:The way I evaluate history textbooks is first I see how they cover Christianity and Israel. Then I see how they treat Ronald Reagan—he needs to get credit for saving the world from communism and for the good economy over the last twenty years because he lowered taxes."
From Juanita Jean's, a Blog I highly recommend
The Texas State Board of Education: If they make the history decisions, history books will be written by Jim Bob and Cletus, at church, while drunk, shooting off their firearms, wearing nothing but a coon skin cap and a Vacation Bible school sash saying “Wholly Man,” writing on a Big Chief tablet.
Juanita Jean Herownself
http://juanitajean.com/
These people believe it is a mandate from above to proselytize in every aspect of society. They fervently wish for the theocracy the Iranians have.