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The first ones into the camps
Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 5:46 pm
by Progurt
I was kind of surprised to find how early the Nazis had the camps running.
Dachau: The 1st Concentration Camp
The opening of the camp, with a capacity for 5,000 prisoners was announced by Heinrich Himmler, Reichsfuhrer SS at a press conference held on 20 March 1933. The first group of so-called protective-custody, consisting mainly of Communists and Social Democrats was brought to the camp on 22 March 1933. They were guarded by Bavarian state police until the camp was taken over by the SS on 11 April 1933.
Dachau was never really a dedicated mass extermination camp, it was instead a forced labor camp.
Dachau itself had thirty-six large sub- camps in which approximately thirty-seven thousand prisoners worked almost exclusively on armaments. Private firms had the opportunity to hire slave labourers from the camps.
For the prisoners, who worked under SS guards, the private firms they paid a daily rate to the SS Wirtshafts- Verwaltungshauptamt – WVHA - the prisoners however, received nothing, those who were ill were sent back to the main camp, usually to die. The firms received new, healthier labourers until these too could no longer meet the demands of their employers.
Prison camps used for work labor for the benefit of private industry and the state. It's like looking into the... present...
Re: The first ones into the camps
Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 6:00 pm
by gendoikari87
yeah, McCarthy witchhunts, blah blah blah, we're like roaches.
to be fair though, those socialists were a threat, firebombing government buildings and shit.
Re: The first ones into the camps
Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 7:24 pm
by Fukshot
Yeah. They weren't functioning as extermination centers until the developmentally disabled were sent to die, followed shortly by the queers.
My grandfather (socialist, political prisoner) did 6 months of labor in that early period.
Re: The first ones into the camps
Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 7:41 pm
by JayFromPA
Progurt wrote:Prison camps used for work labor for the benefit of private industry and the state. It's like looking into the... present...
The closer you get to... Louisiana if I recall correctly... The closer you get to there, the more likely that your sentence will be for hard labor, the more likely that your prison labor will be sold to some private company.
Stay the hell away from the pelican state, imo.
Re: The first ones into the camps
Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 9:23 pm
by punkinlobber
The heart of darkness is well and good today as it was back then. Please keep those sources of info from the eyes of Karl Rove.
Re: The first ones into the camps
Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 10:25 pm
by Inquisitor
Cheery bastards.
Re: The first ones into the camps
Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 1:50 pm
by hagagaga
Fukshot wrote:Yeah. They weren't functioning as extermination centers until the developmentally disabled were sent to die, followed shortly by the queers.
My grandfather (socialist, political prisoner) did 6 months of labor in that early period.
And the thing with the Jews is mainly the idea of Reinhard Heydrich (not to detract from the evil of the rest of the senior Nazi officials).
Did you people know that Hermann Göring's brother was a prominent dissident?
Re: The first ones into the camps
Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:32 pm
by Progurt
hagagaga wrote:Fukshot wrote:Yeah. They weren't functioning as extermination centers until the developmentally disabled were sent to die, followed shortly by the queers.
My grandfather (socialist, political prisoner) did 6 months of labor in that early period.
And the thing with the Jews is mainly the idea of Reinhard Heydrich (not to detract from the evil of the rest of the senior Nazi officials).
Did you people know that Hermann Göring's brother was a prominent dissident?
Albert Göring, he was fucking awesome.
I mean, just look at him:

Albert Göring also used his influence to get his Jewish former boss Oskar Pilzer freed after the Nazis had arrested him. Göring then helped Pilzer and his family escape from Germany. He is reported to have done the same for many other dissidents.[8]
Göring intensified his anti-Nazi activity when he was made export director at the Škoda Works in Czechoslovakia. Here, he encouraged minor acts of sabotage and had contact with the Czech resistance. On many occasions, Göring forged his brother's signature on transit documents to enable dissidents to escape. When he was caught, he used his brother's influence to get himself released. Göring also sent trucks to Nazi concentration camps with requests for labour. These trucks would then stop in an isolated area, and their passengers would be allowed to escape.[8]
After the war, Albert Göring was questioned during the Nuremberg Tribunal. However, many of the people whom he had helped testified on his behalf, and he was released. Soon afterwards, Göring was arrested by the Czechs but was once again freed when the full extent of his activities became known.[8]
Re: The first ones into the camps
Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 4:46 pm
by the comedian
And right after the Reds went the SA men ( aka Brownshirts ) who made Himmler ( leader of the rival SS ) jealous or made the capitalists aligned with Hitler nervous with their revolutionary rhetoric.
Re: The first ones into the camps
Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 12:27 am
by Progurt
Night of Long Knives.
Re: The first ones into the camps
Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 1:02 am
by the comedian
Progurt wrote:Night of Long Knives.
Fascism is mere thuggery dressed up in revolutionary clothing.
Re: The first ones into the camps
Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 2:53 am
by highdesert
Albert Goering, like Oskar Shindler and Raoul Wallenberg, was driven by an innate sense of justice, regardless of the consequences. Yet his brave actions have gone largely unacknowledged, his life relegated to a footnote to his brother's brutal history. William Hastings Burke has done a great service by bringing Albert's deeds to light. Many survivors and their descendants scattered across the globe owe their lives to him. It is time that he was recognised by Yad Vashem.
http://www.thejc.com/arts/books/42912/r ... hirty-four
http://www.spiegel.de/international/ger ... 30893.html