https://timesofsandiego.com/politics/20 ... a-prisons/

Well now isn't that nice. This sets the stage for forced illegal immigration labor. Or anyone else they deem as an enemy of the MAGA State like black people. Or Gay &Trans people.
Also Private prisons stock surged when this failed. The Trump campaign appointed Steven Miller (AKA Mr. Nazi Jew hater and anyone of color) Miller as his deputy chief of staff for policy, which would likely task an immigration hard-liner to the job of implementing Trump's mass deportation plan.

Private prisons are going to ask for more money as they already house illegal aliens. They won't let them go in a timely manner either. If you get in trouble inside, and you will get in trouble that means they get to keep you in prison longer, and the longer you stay the more they make.

See where this is going? Internment camps galore.

Under state law, most California prisoners are required to work. Like many other states, California forbids slavery but allows involuntary servitude to punish someone for a crime. That distinction allows state prisoners and people in jail to work without many of the same protections — minimum wage and benefits — as other California workers.

Then you'd better get upset at all those deep-blue California voters that rejected it. Prop 6 was a State initiative, not a Federal action.

As CT said, this is a CA ballot initiative, it has nothing to do with the federal penal system. California counties have 30 days to canvass and report final totals to the CA Secretary of State, so these aren't the final totals.

Proposition 6 Eliminates Forcing Inmates to Work

A lot of those normally blue counties in CA voted NO.
https://electionresults.sos.ca.gov/retu ... res/prop/6

CowboyT wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2024 1:42 pm Then you'd better get upset at all those deep-blue California voters that rejected it. Prop 6 was a State initiative, not a Federal action.

Me? Oh no not me, I ain't a californian and although I am not it will play into the fed/state prison system.
Good ole Steven Miller will make it so.

As far as state initiatives, see CO and across the nation where black people are getting racist text messages that "they were chosen to pick cotton,

The message tells the recipient they have been selected to pick cotton at the nearest plantation, to be ready by a certain time to be taken in a van and that they will undergo an intense search upon arrival.

It's a coming, get ready. Slavery is back, and thoise independents who can't make up their minds are more than likely responsible.

Hate is contagious. And there will be NO MORE reforming prisoners.

Just out this second as I type. Trump admin looks into doubling up detention centers in major cities. MSNBC

tailgunner wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2024 3:31 pm

CowboyT wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2024 1:42 pm Then you'd better get upset at all those deep-blue California voters that rejected it. Prop 6 was a State initiative, not a Federal action.

Me? Oh no not me, I ain't a californian and although I am not it will play into the fed/state prison system.
Good ole Steven Miller will make it so.

As far as state initiatives, see CO and across the nation where black people are getting racist text messages that "they were chosen to pick cotton,

The message tells the recipient they have been selected to pick cotton at the nearest plantation, to be ready by a certain time to be taken in a van and that they will undergo an intense search upon arrival.

It's a coming, get ready. Slavery is back, and thoise independents who can't make up their minds are more than likely responsible.

Hate is contagious. And there will be NO MORE reforming prisoners.

Just out this second as I type. Trump admin looks into doubling up detention centers in major cities. MSNBC

Do you realize we have had prison slave labor here in CA for quite some time? As gross as it is that this didn't pass to get rid of the current law, it's the status quo of the bluest state in the country. It's got no connection to MAGA.

featureless wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2024 3:40 pm

tailgunner wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2024 3:31 pm

CowboyT wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2024 1:42 pm Then you'd better get upset at all those deep-blue California voters that rejected it. Prop 6 was a State initiative, not a Federal action.

Me? Oh no not me, I ain't a californian and although I am not it will play into the fed/state prison system.
Good ole Steven Miller will make it so.

As far as state initiatives, see CO and across the nation where black people are getting racist text messages that "they were chosen to pick cotton,

The message tells the recipient they have been selected to pick cotton at the nearest plantation, to be ready by a certain time to be taken in a van and that they will undergo an intense search upon arrival.

It's a coming, get ready. Slavery is back, and thoise independents who can't make up their minds are more than likely responsible.

Hate is contagious. And there will be NO MORE reforming prisoners.

Just out this second as I type. Trump admin looks into doubling up detention centers in major cities. MSNBC

Do you realize we have had prison slave labor here in CA for quite some time? As gross as it is that this didn't pass to get rid of the current law, it's the status quo of the bluest state in the country. It's got no connection to MAGA.

Yeah, doncha just love them old chain gang movies, eh? Cadence, Cool Hand Luke, Stalin and his Gulag. Trump loving Putin. Yup. a maga/repug independent voters dream.

tailgunner wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2024 3:49 pm

featureless wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2024 3:40 pm

tailgunner wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2024 3:31 pm

CowboyT wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2024 1:42 pm Then you'd better get upset at all those deep-blue California voters that rejected it. Prop 6 was a State initiative, not a Federal action.

Me? Oh no not me, I ain't a californian and although I am not it will play into the fed/state prison system.
Good ole Steven Miller will make it so.

As far as state initiatives, see CO and across the nation where black people are getting racist text messages that "they were chosen to pick cotton,

The message tells the recipient they have been selected to pick cotton at the nearest plantation, to be ready by a certain time to be taken in a van and that they will undergo an intense search upon arrival.

It's a coming, get ready. Slavery is back, and thoise independents who can't make up their minds are more than likely responsible.

Hate is contagious. And there will be NO MORE reforming prisoners.

Just out this second as I type. Trump admin looks into doubling up detention centers in major cities. MSNBC

Do you realize we have had prison slave labor here in CA for quite some time? As gross as it is that this didn't pass to get rid of the current law, it's the status quo of the bluest state in the country. It's got no connection to MAGA.

Yeah, doncha just love them old chain gang movies, eh? Cadence, Cool Hand Luke, Stalin and his Gulag. Trump loving Putin. Yup. a maga/repug independent voters dream.

Are you ok?

featureless wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2024 3:59 pm

tailgunner wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2024 3:49 pm

featureless wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2024 3:40 pm

tailgunner wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2024 3:31 pm

Me? Oh no not me, I ain't a californian and although I am not it will play into the fed/state prison system.
Good ole Steven Miller will make it so.

As far as state initiatives, see CO and across the nation where black people are getting racist text messages that "they were chosen to pick cotton,

It's a coming, get ready. Slavery is back, and thoise independents who can't make up their minds are more than likely responsible.

Hate is contagious. And there will be NO MORE reforming prisoners.

Just out this second as I type. Trump admin looks into doubling up detention centers in major cities. MSNBC

Do you realize we have had prison slave labor here in CA for quite some time? As gross as it is that this didn't pass to get rid of the current law, it's the status quo of the bluest state in the country. It's got no connection to MAGA.

Yeah, doncha just love them old chain gang movies, eh? Cadence, Cool Hand Luke, Stalin and his Gulag. Trump loving Putin. Yup. a maga/repug independent voters dream.

Are you ok?

I am absolutely OK. It's the voters in CA and other states that vote for legalized prison labor thats not ok.
In my state you can volunteer and if you do get on the outs in fresh air digging weeds, you get time off. Thats the way it should be.

tailgunner wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2024 3:31 pm

CowboyT wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2024 1:42 pm Then you'd better get upset at all those deep-blue California voters that rejected it. Prop 6 was a State initiative, not a Federal action.

Me? Oh no not me, I ain't a californian and although I am not it will play into the fed/state prison system.

Very interesting on your intro post on 9/29/2024 you stated.

Greetings fellow liberals. I'm a reddit'r, gun owner, extreme leftist, and grandfather. My favorite gun is my Ruger Vaquero in 45 Colt. I'm looking to get a Redhawk in 454.

Live in Bay area.

Something doesn't make sense ?????

tailgunner wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2024 4:01 pm

featureless wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2024 3:59 pm

tailgunner wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2024 3:49 pm

featureless wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2024 3:40 pm

Do you realize we have had prison slave labor here in CA for quite some time? As gross as it is that this didn't pass to get rid of the current law, it's the status quo of the bluest state in the country. It's got no connection to MAGA.

Yeah, doncha just love them old chain gang movies, eh? Cadence, Cool Hand Luke, Stalin and his Gulag. Trump loving Putin. Yup. a maga/repug independent voters dream.

Are you ok?

I am absolutely OK. It's the voters in CA and other states that vote for legalized prison labor thats not ok.
In my state you can volunteer and if you do get on the outs in fresh air digging weeds, you get time off. Thats the way it should be.

Again, voters didn't vote for slavery in CA. It already existed.

highdesert wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2024 4:02 pm

tailgunner wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2024 3:31 pm

CowboyT wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2024 1:42 pm Then you'd better get upset at all those deep-blue California voters that rejected it. Prop 6 was a State initiative, not a Federal action.

Me? Oh no not me, I ain't a californian and although I am not it will play into the fed/state prison system.

Very interesting on your intro post on 9/29/2024 you stated.

Greetings fellow liberals. I'm a reddit'r, gun owner, extreme leftist, and grandfather. My favorite gun is my Ruger Vaquero in 45 Colt. I'm looking to get a Redhawk in 454.

Live in Bay area.

Something doesn't make sense ?????

Part timer. I have places in 3 states if you must know. Not sure why it matters.

How's your state pension?

^^ Heh...probably better than yours! :-D

If you're going to get all upset, don't do it at Trump this time, but rather do so at the people who are actually responsible for rejecting this proposition, and that's California voters. Actually make some sense this time and direct your disappointment--or whatever it is--at those voters...including those in the Bay Area where you live (and where I'm from) who voted against it.

tailgunner wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2024 4:06 pm

highdesert wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2024 4:02 pm

tailgunner wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2024 3:31 pm

CowboyT wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2024 1:42 pm Then you'd better get upset at all those deep-blue California voters that rejected it. Prop 6 was a State initiative, not a Federal action.

Me? Oh no not me, I ain't a californian and although I am not it will play into the fed/state prison system.

Very interesting on your intro post on 9/29/2024 you stated.

Greetings fellow liberals. I'm a reddit'r, gun owner, extreme leftist, and grandfather. My favorite gun is my Ruger Vaquero in 45 Colt. I'm looking to get a Redhawk in 454.

Live in Bay area.

Something doesn't make sense ?????

Part timer. I have places in 3 states if you must know. Not sure why it matters.

How's your state pension?

So you are a Californian at least part time. Just because someone has a federal, state, county or city pension, doesn't mean the person is obligated to vote a particular party line, that sounds like the Chinese Communist Party. Civil servants are expected to be non-partisan while serving in government. Just because someone has a union retirement, doesn't mean they have to vote Democratic.

Just wondering how your pension is doing. Most should be doing great since they all play the stock markets. But wit till the market crashes due to Trumps tarriffs.

Problem is if you remember over in Wisconsin was it, they started going after pensions because the state was in terrible debt.