A "sex strike" in light of the election results?

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Making America Great Again may not work out so great for some American men in the bedroom.

A number of feminists are going on a sex strike in retaliation for Donald Trump’s presidential victory.

According to videos and social-media posts compiled and cited by the Daily Telegraph, liberal women are drawing inspiration from the South Korean “4B” movement, which commits women to four “no” behaviors toward men — dating, sex, marriage and children. (The Korean prefix for negative words is “bi.”)

Interest in the movement has spiked since Mr. Trump’s victory over Democrat Kamala Harris, who not only would have been the first female U.S. president but who also sought to make the election a referendum on abortion.

“For the next four years I am going to abstain from sex with men,” said a woman in one TikTok video cited by the Telegraph.

Abortion was specifically cited by one woman who said “if all these men are voting to take our rights away, they don’t deserve to touch a woman for the next four years. So, hope you thought that through you guys.”

Another woman referring to Florida’s rejection of a proposal to enshrine abortion rights in the state and said “good luck getting laid. Especially in Florida, because me and my girlies are participating in the 4B movement.”

In another TikTok video, the young woman not only vows to refuse sex but encourages others to delete dating apps.

“As a woman, my bodily autonomy matters and this is my way to exercise sovereignty over that,” she says. “I highly encourage any other women who are single and still care about progressing women’s rights and still fighting for our bodily autonomy to do the same. Delete your dating apps.”

She described the 4B movement as a “point of inspiration.”

Another video was captioned: “I think it’s time for American women to participate in our own 4B movement.”
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OK, if they really want to. :-) Doesn't affect me personally, as I'm married to a wonderful woman, but that does appear to be painting all men with the same brush, which would be very sexist indeed. I wish them luck...but the world is a smaller place now, and there are plenty of women around the world who actually do like American men.
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Funny, either it will fizzle out or the divorce rate will go up. Unless one or both partners are apolitical, it's best to talk about politics early in a relationship especially if it's a hot button issue with one person. My mother was a Chicago Democrat and my father was a western Michigan Republican and they were married for over 35 years, politics wasn't the most important thing in their life.
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I don’t see how this would work unless All women did this en mass… All you need are a few women willing to be extremely promiscuous and the “strike scabs” to undermine the effort. And because plenty of women did vote for the TOS a few women will suddenly discover their inner dimension away from men from this effort it seems.
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There are right-wing jerks parroting that one jerk's "Your body, my decision" taunt who are saying that they won't care about consent; they'll force their wimminfolk to have sex.

Many of my friends have referred to our society as a "rape culture" already, given how hard it is to prosecute a rape charge and how much the victims get dragged through torture "in the aims of protecting the guy's good name" (Remember Rapist Brock Turner). That almost the same number of people voted for TOS in 2024 as did in 2020, despite even more public dissemination of news of how awful a person he has always been supports the claim that ours is, indeed, a rape culture.
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What should have been a somewhat amusing post has gone down a dark path. What started out as, not tonight, I have a Right Wing induced headache, has gone full blown sexual predator. I had thought this was something of a pun rich environment, and a bit of junior high tom foolery might be called for.

But this? Block the abortion of rapists? Let’s see if I understand the common definition of some words in play.

Abortion refers to a procedure where an as yet unborn (in this case) human at some stage of development, is life terminated. A baby cannot be a rapist, this side of having a legal right to exist or before having the good sense to get the hell outta there. A post-natal abortion would be called homicide.

It is interesting that many here have expressed loving support of the Mid East factions waging jihad against the sworn enemy of all humanity, Israel. Palestine, an Islamic entity, along with many other Muslim countries, practice some of the most horrific treatment of women and girls anywhere. If there is a rape culture to be fought, start there.

There is a drug culture, a music culture, a homeless culture, a sports culture… none of which dominate or advise our human culture.

Rape culture. Good grief!
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papajim2jordan wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2024 7:34 am What should have been a somewhat amusing post has gone down a dark path. What started out as, not tonight, I have a Right Wing induced headache, has gone full blown sexual predator. I had thought this was something of a pun rich environment, and a bit of junior high tom foolery might be called for.

But this? Block the abortion of rapists? Let’s see if I understand the common definition of some words in play.

Abortion refers to a procedure where an as yet unborn (in this case) human at some stage of development, is life terminated. A baby cannot be a rapist, this side of having a legal right to exist or before having the good sense to get the hell outta there. A post-natal abortion would be called homicide.

It is interesting that many here have expressed loving support of the Mid East factions waging jihad against the sworn enemy of all humanity, Israel. Palestine, an Islamic entity, along with many other Muslim countries, practice some of the most horrific treatment of women and girls anywhere. If there is a rape culture to be fought, start there.

There is a drug culture, a music culture, a homeless culture, a sports culture… none of which dominate or advise our human culture.

Rape culture. Good grief!
Agreed. But that's Democrat partisans for you. :-) Makes me glad I'm an independent!

I predict this "sex strike" fizziling out after a few months. But who knows? If they really mean it, and it helps them in some way, then good for them.
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Speaking of sex strikes.
No Sex, No Dating, No Babies, No Marriage: How the 4B Movement Could Change America
Across Korea, young women are swearing off men, influenced by the 4B movement, a radical feminist campaign that originated in Korea in the late 2010s. The four Bs stand for bi-hon (no marriage), bi-yeonae (no dating), bi-chulsan (no birthing) and bi-sex (no sex).

The movement formed in response to growing gender inequality and violence against women: Korea has one of the largest gender pay gaps in the world, and brutal murders of women — in subway stations, on rooftops and in their own homes, often at the hands of men they were dating — headline news shows daily. Amid so much political turmoil and bloodshed, 4B activists say the only way to make women safe — and convince society to take their safety seriously — is to swear off men altogether until something changes.

And now, in the wake of Donald Trump’s reelection, 4B is going viral on U.S. social media among women who are furious with the men who helped the former president clinch a win. On TikTok alone, top videos have gained millions of views, and one widely shared tweet about the 4B movement post-election now has 450,000 likes and 21 million views at time of writing.

It’s too soon to say if the 4B movement is here to stay in the United States. But even if it isn’t, the surge in interest says something about the social forces unleashed by the 2024 presidential election. An uptick in misogyny has already been evident — just look at the “your body, my choice” comments by men online — similar to what’s been seen in Korea, suggesting that this kind of feminist reaction could take hold. And even if women don’t explicitly take on the 4B label en masse, the movement’s message of bodily autonomy, and the anger that drove the conversation in the first place, could have a major impact not just on American politics, but on American life overall — just as it has in Korea.

Think of the movement as a labor strike, says Soha, a Korean feminist who provided only her online nickname for fear of being harassed for supporting feminism. She says it’s about rejecting the additional work women put in to appeal to men, maintain a household and follow patriarchal values — the kind of work that is more widespread in South Korea’s more socially conservative society. It’s the type of labor all women can identify with and push back against with one powerful voice. Many women eschew the 4B label, often in fear of harassment, but still live by its principles. My cousin describes it as an act of survival, a way to shield women from rapidly rising violence, avoid toxic conversations with misogynistic men and resist an anti-feminist government that is actively trying to roll back women’s rights.
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine ... t-00189314

This is definitely against the Repug idea for women’s roles of Barefoot, Pregnant, and in the Kitchen.
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