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Happy she came thru for Kamala. Full post follows:
Like many of you, I watched the debate tonight. If you haven’t already, now is a great time to do your research on the issues at hand and the stances these candidates take on the topics that matter to you the most. As a voter, I make sure to watch and read everything I can about their proposed policies and plans for this country.

Recently I was made aware that AI of ‘me’ falsely endorsing Donald Trump’s presidential run was posted to his site. It really conjured up my fears around AI, and the dangers of spreading misinformation. It brought me to the conclusion that I need to be very transparent about my actual plans for this election as a voter. The simplest way to combat misinformation is with the truth.

I will be casting my vote for Kamala Harris and Tim Walz in the 2024 Presidential Election. I’m voting for @kamalaharris because she fights for the rights and causes I believe need a warrior to champion them. I think she is a steady-handed, gifted leader and I believe we can accomplish so much more in this country if we are led by calm and not chaos. I was so heartened and impressed by her selection of running mate @timwalz, who has been standing up for LGBTQ+ rights, IVF, and a woman’s right to her own body for decades.

I’ve done my research, and I’ve made my choice. Your research is all yours to do, and the choice is yours to make. I also want to say, especially to first time voters: Remember that in order to vote, you have to be registered! I also find it’s much easier to vote early. I’ll link where to register and find early voting dates and info in my story.

With love and hope,

Taylor Swift
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Whether this will have an effect or not is debatable, but she has gotten lots of people to register to vote, so it cant' hurt anyone - except the orange turd!
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Personally I think entertainers should stay out of politics, I always thought it was a mistake when Bruce Springsteen endorsed Biden in 2020. People of both parties enjoy listening to Springsteen and Swift. Dolly Parton is a very smart woman, she never discusses politics even though she gets prodded in interviews and she's loved by the very conservative and very liberal.


She's a very beautiful woman.


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highdesert wrote: Wed Sep 11, 2024 8:01 am Personally I think entertainers should stay out of politics, I always thought it was a mistake when Bruce Springsteen endorsed Biden in 2020. People of both parties enjoy listening to Springsteen and Swift. Dolly Parton is a very smart woman, she never discusses politics even though she gets prodded in interviews and she's loved by the very conservative and very liberal.


She's a very beautiful woman.


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Agree with this and yes I adore Dolly! Others should take her example.
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As far as whether or not debates and endorsements actually make a difference, I think it depends. If Harris had totally fumbled the debate, it would have hurt her. If she'd walked out there and pulled a Biden, her campaign would be over. Trump, on the other hand, could have walked on stage, dropped trou and pooped on the floor, and it wouldn't have moved the needle either way.

Same with the endorsement. If Swift didn't endorse Harris, people would talk about it. People would ask why. They'd say, "she endorsed Biden, what's different this time?" We'd see, "Swift snubs Harris," headlines. It would have hurt her.

Trump's vote share is baked in. He doesn't need to be consistent or make sense. It doesn't matter what he does or doesn't do. Debate, don't debate, stick to policy, go off on tangents, it doesn't matter, there's no risk for him. Harris, on the other hand, is navigating a minefield and every step matters.

Also, as to entertainers staying out of politics, I disagree. No one's job should preclude them from voicing their opinion (unless you're a judge or something or have a job that actually requires you to appear impartial). I think that's a weirdly anti American, anti democratic, anti first amendment position to take.

"I understand people having to make themselves known and felt and seen," she told the magazine. "And of course Black lives matter. Do we think our little white asses are the only ones that matter? No!" - Dolly Parton, 2020

I also love Dolly, and although I'm not a Swiftie, I think she's pretty cool too.
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That "...or something" is carrying an enormous amount of weight in your sentence.

Military officers. Police officers. Those are just the first two I can think of, on the list of occupations where politics doesn't belong. The consequences range from a smile into the palm of one's hand to a moral disaster, but there a lot of occupations (jobs, for you chucklefucks) where it can be important to keep one's politics to oneself.

It sounds like you're confused about what the first amendment does, and it sounds like your confusion is a common, standard issue variety.
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I suspect she will have a profound impact on the election re young people and Swifties in general. I also believe Megyn Kelly & turd are in for a shock that her support of Kamala will hurt Swift's bottom line. It's kinda like rabid gun owners saying Dick's Sporting was gonna go out of business when they quit selling guns and ammo. Their stock was around $50 in 2019 when they started not selling guns/ammo, now over $200. So much for wishful thinking.
How Swift's endorsement will shape the election is yet to be seen, but her message’s reach has already been massive. The General Services Administration told ABC News that, as of 2:00 p.m. on Wednesday, more than 330,000 people had visited the voter registration site linked by Swift.
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I'm a big Dolly fan, especially with respect to how she treats everyone and how she shares with those who need it.

I will be interested to watch the final effect upon the election from Swift. When I was in high school, it was rock musicians. Now it's pop. But the fan base is percentage wise very similar.

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highdesert wrote: Wed Sep 11, 2024 8:01 am Personally I think entertainers should stay out of politics, I always thought it was a mistake when Bruce Springsteen endorsed Biden in 2020. People of both parties enjoy listening to Springsteen and Swift. Dolly Parton is a very smart woman, she never discusses politics even though she gets prodded in interviews and she's loved by the very conservative and very liberal.


She's a very beautiful woman.


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I think entertainers who are US Citizens have the same right as ordinary zhlubs like you and me to express their views and opinions on as big a stage as they, or you and I can muster. The right of freedom of speech is just as much theirs, whether they are the super-popular Taylor Swift, or the numb-nuts Ted Nugent, Kid Rock, or Hulk Hogan.
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I too am a Dolly fan, she's an astute businesswoman who owns Dollywood and three resorts. Said to be the most successful country western singer to date, she's also a philanthropist who is worth an estimated $650 million. She's loved by drag queens and fundamentalist Christians.
Many have tried and failed to get Parton to open up about her political leanings over the years. It’s a game only made trickier by her skills at deflection, whether by deploying a canny topic pivot or, more commonly, a joke about her breasts. “I don’t do politics,” she told the acclaimed biographical podcast Dolly Parton’s America in 2019. “I have too many fans on both sides of the fence. Of course, I have my opinion, but I learned years ago to keep my mouth shut about things.”
“I’ve seen things before, like the Dixie Chicks,” Parton told The Guardian in 2019, referencing the hysterical backlash the country trio endured after condemning the Iraq War in 2003. “You can ruin a career for speaking out … Of course, I have my own opinions, but that don’t mean I got to throw them out there, because you’re going to piss off half the people.”
https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-ente ... 61630.html

Of course everyone has a right to share their opinions, but for those in the entertainment industry it's their careers.
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Sure. You have the First Amendment right to speak. And others likewise have the right to buy your music or not. And a celebrity endorsement is not going to move my political barometer, no matter who it's for. Amber Rose endorsing Trump was quite a surprise, though...hadn't seen that one coming....

Taylor Swift's material isn't my preferred style anyway. I much prefer the likes of Michel Camilo, Oscar Peterson, Dave Weckl, Monty Alexander, and Gene Harris. As far as singers go, to me, the only big-time famous singer that's really any good these days would be Lady Gaga, as demonstrated on that album she did with Tony Bennett. But my standard for female singers really is Ella Fitzgerald, Sarah Vaughn, and Whitney Houston. For male singers, it's Philip Bailey of Earth, Wind, and Fire.
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highdesert wrote: Fri Sep 13, 2024 6:34 am Of course everyone has a right to share their opinions, but for those in the entertainment industry it's their careers.
That's a long way of saying "it's up to them".
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CowboyT wrote: Fri Sep 13, 2024 11:29 amTaylor Swift's material isn't my preferred style anyway. I much prefer the likes of Michel Camilo, Oscar Peterson, Dave Weckl, Monty Alexander, and Gene Harris. As far as singers go, to me, the only big-time famous singer that's really any good these days would be Lady Gaga, as demonstrated on that album she did with Tony Bennett. But my standard for female singers really is Ella Fitzgerald, Sarah Vaughn, and Whitney Houston. For male singers, it's Philip Bailey of Earth, Wind, and Fire.
yee gods.
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Ylatkit wrote: Fri Sep 13, 2024 2:20 pm
CowboyT wrote: Fri Sep 13, 2024 11:29 amTaylor Swift's material isn't my preferred style anyway. I much prefer the likes of Michel Camilo, Oscar Peterson, Dave Weckl, Monty Alexander, and Gene Harris. As far as singers go, to me, the only big-time famous singer that's really any good these days would be Lady Gaga, as demonstrated on that album she did with Tony Bennett. But my standard for female singers really is Ella Fitzgerald, Sarah Vaughn, and Whitney Houston. For male singers, it's Philip Bailey of Earth, Wind, and Fire.
yee gods.
Indeed, the good stuff! Way better than that Presidential debate three days ago...ugh....
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Ylatkit wrote: Fri Sep 13, 2024 3:53 pm It hurt my eyes to read that list.

It burns, it burns!
And thus cleanses. Jazz will have that effect on a person. :-) Seriously, though, you really ought to listen to some of Oscar Peterson's or Michel Camilo's material if you haven't already. If you have and decided it's not your thing, then no worries. We all have our musical preferences.

Celebrity endorsements aren't going to change my view of the candidates. Those celebrities have the right to endorse whomever they want. That's their business.

Though on the subject of celebrity endorsements, I admit quite a bit of surprise when I saw Amber Rose endorsing Pres. Trump. That, I hadn't expected, given her previously demonstrated politics. Taylor Swift endorsing Vice Pres. Harris comes as no surprise, though.
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It might not be such a “Love Story” after all. Taylor Swift’s endorsement of Vice President Kamala Harris and her running mate, Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz, may turn more voters away than it attracts. A new post-debate poll from YouGov released Saturday found that 8% of voters said the pop superstar’s nod is either “somewhat” or “much more likely” to convince them to cast their ballot for the Democrat. But a whopping 20% said they are “somewhat” or “much less likely” to vote for former President Donald Trump’s opponent now that Swift has spoken.

Most of the respondents, 66%, said Swift’s endorsement made no difference on how they will vote in November. “I’ve done my research, and I’ve made my choice,” the Grammy-winning artist shared in an Instagram post with her 283 million followers shortly after Tuesday night’s debate. “Your research is all yours to do, and the choice is yours to make.” She called Harris “a steady-handed, gifted leader” who could lead with “calm and not chaos.”

The majority — 32% of the online poll’s respondents — think the move will have a positive effect on Harris’ campaign, while 27% said they don’t think it’ll have an effect either way. Forty-one percent — nearly 460 people — said the “Shake it Off” singer shouldn’t speak publicly about politics. Thirty-eight percent said she should make public endorsements. Sixty-six percent of the poll’s participants said they are not Swifties, while 28% reported being a fan and 6% identified as a big fan. The majority of “big fans” were women, and registered Democrats.
https://nypost.com/2024/09/14/us-news/m ... ment-poll/
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