Re: Orange spirochete indictment thread

302
The asshole just doesn't know when to SHUT THE FUCK UP!!
And, no, you do NOT have a 1st amendment right to say ANYTHING you want--you cannot threaten people with physical harm, you cannot "SWAT" people--those are felonies. You cannot tell lies about people that hurt them--A judge and jury gave the asshole $5 million reasons to SHUT THE FUCK UP!! But he's too stubborn and stupid to heed them.
E.Jean Carroll just filed a brand-new lawsuit against TOS for his CNN slandering of her--saying EXACTLY the same shit that cost him 5 mill!
"Even if the bee could explain to the fly why pollen is better than shit, the fly could never understand."

Re: Orange spirochete indictment thread

303
Former President Donald Trump's legal team has formally requested a meeting with Attorney General Merrick Garland, amid fears from his attorneys that the coming weeks could bring a possible indictment of Trump regarding his alleged efforts to retain materials after leaving office and to obstruct the government's attempts to retrieve them. The letter, though thin on details, presents arguments that Trump should not be charged in the investigation related to his alleged mishandling of classified documents, sources familiar with the matter tell ABC News. The letter asks Garland for a meeting at his earliest convenience to discuss what the attorneys describe as the "ongoing injustice that is being perpetrated" by special counsel Jack Smith and says that no president has been "baselessly investigated" in such an "unlawful fashion."

The one-page letter was signed by Trump lawyers John Rowley and James Trusty, and does not outline any specific allegations of wrongdoing by Smith and his team. The request does not specifically detail what Trump's legal team wants to discuss with the attorney general. Trump has repeatedly denied any wrongdoing associated with his handling of materials bearing classification markings. It's not clear whether Trump's attorneys are acting on any specific knowledge of Smith's investigation. Trump posted the letter on his Truth Social account Tuesday night. A spokesperson for Garland and a spokesperson for the special counsel's office both declined to comment to ABC News.
As ABC News first reported in March, prosecutors in the special counsel's office have presented compelling preliminary evidence that Trump knowingly and deliberately misled his own attorneys about his retention of classified material after leaving office, according to sources who described the contents of a sealed filing from a top federal judge. In a sealed filing from March, Judge Beryl Howell ordered Trump lawyer Evan Corcoran to comply with a grand jury subpoena for testimony over which he had previously asserted attorney-client privilege. Sources said Howell ordered Corcoran to hand over a number of records tied to what she described as Trump's alleged "criminal scheme," echoing prosecutors. Those records included handwritten notes, invoices, and transcriptions of personal audio recordings.

The meeting request from Trump's attorneys comes as infighting within Trump's legal team has spilled into the public eye. Over the weekend, former Trump lawyer Tim Parlatore -- who left Trump's legal team last week -- publicly blasted a current lawyer for Trump, alleging that Boris Epshteyn attempted to interfere with additional searches for classified material at Trump's properties. "In my opinion, he was not very honest with us or with the client on certain things. There were certain things like the searches that he had attempted to interfere with," Parlatore said during an appearance on CNN on Saturday. Parlatore added that Epshteyn, who has served as somewhat of a liaison between the lawyers, made defending Trump more difficult.
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/fearing ... d=99506836
"Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but not their own facts." - Daniel Patrick Moynihan

Re: Orange spirochete indictment thread

304
Special counsel Jack Smith has all but finished obtaining testimony and other evidence in his criminal investigation into whether former President Donald Trump mishandled classified documents at his Mar-a-Lago resort, according to people familiar with the matter. Some of Trump’s close associates are bracing for his indictment and anticipate being able to fundraise off a prosecution, people in the former president’s circle said, as clashes within the Trump legal team have led to the departure of a key lawyer. In recent weeks prosecutors working for Smith have completed interviews with nearly every employee at Trump’s Florida home, from top political aides to maids and maintenance staff, the people said. Prosecutors have pressed witnesses—some in multiple rounds of testimony—on questions that appeared to home in on specific elements Smith’s team would need to show to prove a crime, including those that speak to Trump’s intentions, and questions aimed at undermining potential defenses Trump could raise, they said. The special counsel team conducted a flurry of grand jury interviews in recent weeks that appeared to tie up loose ends, the people said.

The Journal couldn’t determine whether Smith has decided whether to charge Trump, or if he has presented a recommendation on the matter to Attorney General Merrick Garland, who would ultimately make a final decision on any such charges. A spokesman for Smith declined to comment. A Trump spokesman didn’t immediately respond to a request for comment but has previously described the probe as a politically motivated witch hunt.
Smith’s team, which has been examining whether anyone tried to obstruct the criminal inquiry, has obtained evidence that appears to show Trump held on to sensitive documents after being asked to relinquish them, the people said. Last week the National Archives turned over to Smith’s team records of communications between then-President Trump and some of his advisers about how he could declassify documents, some of the people said, material that could help prosecutors overcome the defense that Trump believed he could do so verbally. CNN first reported the National Archives transfer. Smith’s team is still pursuing a separate inquiry into efforts by Trump and his allies to overturn his 2020 election loss. Any charges, if filed, would come at a politically delicate time, as Trump campaigns for the 2024 GOP presidential nomination and is the front-runner to take on President Biden, who has also announced his bid for re-election.
https://archive.fo/UEqw7#selection-335.0-355.1
"Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but not their own facts." - Daniel Patrick Moynihan

Re: Orange spirochete indictment thread

305
Yet again another TOS attempt to obstruct Justice. Perhaps Garland should suggest to Smith that he'd be amenable to that. Rowley and Trusty should be disciplined or sanctioned for signing this letter. EVERY attorney for TOS risks her/his career because he will ALWAYS demand they do something totally unethical. How does Epshteyn still have a law license?????
"Even if the bee could explain to the fly why pollen is better than shit, the fly could never understand."

Re: Orange spirochete indictment thread

306
YankeeTarheel wrote: Wed May 24, 2023 8:01 am Yet again another TOS attempt to obstruct Justice. Perhaps Garland should suggest to Smith that he'd be amenable to that. Rowley and Trusty should be disciplined or sanctioned for signing this letter. EVERY attorney for TOS risks her/his career because he will ALWAYS demand they do something totally unethical. How does Epshteyn still have a law license?????
The letter asks Garland for a meeting at his earliest convenience to discuss what the attorneys describe as the "ongoing injustice that is being perpetrated" by special counsel Jack Smith and says that no president has been "baselessly investigated" in such an "unlawful fashion."

The orange turd must be getting desperate. 'baselessly investigated' and 'unlawful fashion'..sounds like the ignorant turd hmself wrote this.
Neither 'baseless' nor 'unlawful'. No former president has been investigated like this because no former president has been so obviously a criminal.

Re: Orange spirochete indictment thread

310
U.S. District Judge Amit Mehta delivered a searing and lengthy reproach to Rhodes shortly before handing down his sentence, telling him, “You, sir, present an ongoing threat and a peril to this country and to the republic and to the very fabric of this democracy,” according to NBC News.

Earlier, Rhodes recited a 20-minute-long diatribe to the courtroom in which he called himself a “political prisoner” and said his only crime was trying to stop politicians from “destroying” America.

Mehta responded to his claims directly: “You are not a political prisoner, Mr. Rhodes.”

“The moment you are released, whenever that may be, you will be ready to take up arms against your government,” the judge said, per The Associated Press.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/oath-ke ... 7ed779251d

Now we can expect the Rightwing to complain that Judge Mehta is not a true American. Also Rhodes diatribe reminds me of what I read about Hitler’s diatribe in his trial where he and his Nazi comrades attempted a coup to bring down the Weimar Republic.
Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored.-Huxley
"We can have democracy in this country, or we can have great wealth concentrated in the hands of a few, but we can't have both." ~ Louis Brandeis,

Re: Orange spirochete indictment thread

311
CDFingers wrote: Thu May 25, 2023 1:53 pm Apropos to this thread, Eighteen Years, man.
WASHINGTON — The founder of the far-right Oath Keepers has been sentenced to 18 years in federal prison in connection with the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol following his conviction on seditious conspiracy.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justic ... -rcna85852

CDFingers
Jean Valjean got more time for stealing a loaf of bread.

Re: Orange spirochete indictment thread

312
TrueTexan wrote: Thu May 25, 2023 2:26 pm
U.S. District Judge Amit Mehta delivered a searing and lengthy reproach to Rhodes shortly before handing down his sentence, telling him, “You, sir, present an ongoing threat and a peril to this country and to the republic and to the very fabric of this democracy,” according to NBC News.

Earlier, Rhodes recited a 20-minute-long diatribe to the courtroom in which he called himself a “political prisoner” and said his only crime was trying to stop politicians from “destroying” America.

Mehta responded to his claims directly: “You are not a political prisoner, Mr. Rhodes.”

“The moment you are released, whenever that may be, you will be ready to take up arms against your government,” the judge said, per The Associated Press.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/oath-ke ... 7ed779251d

Now we can expect the Rightwing to complain that Judge Mehta is not a true American. Also Rhodes diatribe reminds me of what I read about Hitler’s diatribe in his trial where he and his Nazi comrades attempted a coup to bring down the Weimar Republic.
And he was SO nice to Rhodes! He could have, and should have given him the 25 years the prosecution wanted, or, better still, life without parole.
"Even if the bee could explain to the fly why pollen is better than shit, the fly could never understand."

Re: Orange spirochete indictment thread

315
TrueTexan wrote: Thu May 25, 2023 2:26 pm
U.S. District Judge Amit Mehta delivered a searing and lengthy reproach to Rhodes shortly before handing down his sentence, telling him, “You, sir, present an ongoing threat and a peril to this country and to the republic and to the very fabric of this democracy,” according to NBC News.

Earlier, Rhodes recited a 20-minute-long diatribe to the courtroom in which he called himself a “political prisoner” and said his only crime was trying to stop politicians from “destroying” America.

Mehta responded to his claims directly: “You are not a political prisoner, Mr. Rhodes.”

“The moment you are released, whenever that may be, you will be ready to take up arms against your government,” the judge said, per The Associated Press.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/oath-ke ... 7ed779251d

Now we can expect the Rightwing to complain that Judge Mehta is not a true American. Also Rhodes diatribe reminds me of what I read about Hitler’s diatribe in his trial where he and his Nazi comrades attempted a coup to bring down the Weimar Republic.
That's trump's mantra too..'destroying America', 'Hate America'. It's what these cult members see and believe. All because the orange turd said so...evidence or proof be damned.
Yup, has nothing to do with Trump's legal problems.
Has everything to do with trump's legal problems since trump was the instigator of the attempted coup...That started way before the election..'it's rigged'..then 5 attempts by trumo to overturn the free and fair election, culminating with the J6 insurrection.

Re: Orange spirochete indictment thread

316
Two of Donald Trump’s employees moved boxes of papers the day before an early June visit by FBI agents and a prosecutor to the former president’s Florida home to retrieve classified documents in response to a subpoena — timing that investigators have come to view as suspicious and an indication of possible obstruction, according to people familiar with the matter. Trump and his aides also allegedly carried out a “dress rehearsal” for moving sensitive papers even before his office received the May 2022 subpoena, according to the people familiar with the matter who spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe a sensitive ongoing investigation.

Prosecutors in addition have gathered evidence indicating that Trump at times kept classified documents in his office in a place where they were visible and sometimes showed them to others, these people said. Taken together, the new details of the classified-documents investigation suggest a greater breadth and specificity to the instances of possible obstruction found by the FBI and Justice Department than have been previously reported. It also broadens the timeline of possible obstruction episodes that investigators are examining — a period stretching from events at Mar-a-Lago before the subpoena to the period after the FBI search there on Aug. 8.

That timeline may prove crucial as prosecutors seek to determine Trump’s intent in keeping hundreds of classified documents after he left the White House, a key factor in deciding whether to file charges, possibly for obstruction, mishandling national security secrets or both. The Washington Post has previously reported that the boxes were moved out of the storage area after Trump’s office received a subpoena. But the precise timing of that activity is a significant element in the investigation, the people familiar with the matter said.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national ... ar-a-lago/

Trump might have dug himself into a hole so deep that no lawyers can save him. We watch and wait.
"Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but not their own facts." - Daniel Patrick Moynihan

Re: Orange spirochete indictment thread

319
Manhattan prosecutors on Tuesday formally opposed former President Trump’s bid to move his hush money criminal case from state to federal court. Trump’s lawyers earlier this month argued the case cannot be tried in state court because the alleged conduct happened while Trump was serving as president. Such a move would increase the potential jury pool, which is currently limited to the heavily Democratic population of Manhattan. In court documents filed Tuesday, Manhattan prosecutors responded that the case should continue in state court, writing that Trump’s “alleged criminal conduct had no connection to his official duties and responsibilities as President, but instead arose from his unofficial actions relating to his private businesses and pre-election conduct.” Trump faces 34 felony counts of falsifying business records in connection with his reimbursement to his then-fixer, Michael Cohen, for a $130,000 hush payment made just ahead of the 2016 presidential election.

Cohen made the payment to adult film star Stormy Daniels in exchange for her silence about an affair she claims to have had with Trump. Trump denies the affair and pleaded not guilty. Under federal law, federal officers can move criminal prosecutions against them from state to federal court when the allegations relate to an official act and they raise a “colorable federal defense.” “Defendant’s alleged criminal conduct here is similarly divorced from any official duty or responsibility: the pre-election scheme and $130,000 payment to an adult film actress predated defendant’s inauguration, and his post-inauguration actions all derived from this pre-inauguration conduct, rather than any presidential duty, because defendant sought to conceal facts and to reimburse payments that preceded his time in office,” prosecutors wrote.

“Under these circumstances, defendant has failed to establish that the criminal conduct alleged here related to any acts performed under color of the Office of the President,” prosecutors continued. Trump’s lawyers, calling District Attorney Alvin Bragg’s (D) prosecution politically motivated, had further argued that the federal courts have so-called “protective jurisdiction” to prevent state hostility to a federal officer. “This claim fails because ‘protective jurisdiction’ does not exist as a recognized basis for federal court jurisdiction, and because defendant could not satisfy the predicates for invoking that theoretical basis for federal court jurisdiction even if it did exist,” prosecutors pushed back.

Trump’s response is due by June 15. U.S. District Judge Alvin Hellerstein, a Clinton appointee, has scheduled a June 27 hearing to decide whether the case will proceed in federal court, but the judge could rule beforehand. Meanwhile, proceedings are continuing in state court. Prosecutors are expected to turn over their evidence to Trump’s legal team in the coming days, and the former president’s lawyers are then expected to mount an effort to dismiss the charges ahead of trial. A trial is tentatively scheduled to begin on March 25, 2024.
https://thehill.com/regulation/court-ba ... ral-court/
"Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but not their own facts." - Daniel Patrick Moynihan

Re: Orange spirochete indictment thread

320
TOS is trying to get the justice to recuse himself. I'll bet he wants to be tried in front of whatzername, Cannon? who tried to quash the Mar-a-Lago FBI search on the basis of....she's biased TOWARD TOS and even his appointees in the Circuit Court overturned her blatantly WRONG decisions and actions.
"Even if the bee could explain to the fly why pollen is better than shit, the fly could never understand."

Re: Orange spirochete indictment thread

321
Federal prosecutors have obtained an audio recording of a summer 2021 meeting in which former President Donald Trump acknowledges he held onto a classified Pentagon document about a potential attack on Iran, multiple sources told CNN, undercutting his argument that he declassified everything. The recording indicates Trump understood he retained classified material after leaving the White House, according to multiple sources familiar with the investigation. On the recording, Trump’s comments suggest he would like to share the information but he’s aware of limitations on his ability post-presidency to declassify records, two of the sources said.

CNN has not listened to the recording, but multiple sources described it. One source said the relevant portion on the Iran document is about two minutes long, and another source said the discussion is a small part of a much longer meeting. Special counsel Jack Smith, who is leading the Justice Department investigation into Trump, has focused on the meeting as part of the criminal investigation into Trump’s handling of national security secrets. Sources describe the recording as an “important” piece of evidence in a possible case against Trump, who has repeatedly asserted he could retain presidential records and “automatically” declassify documents. Prosecutors have asked witnesses about the recording and the document before a federal grand jury. The episode has generated enough interest for investigators to have questioned Gen. Mark Milley, one of the highest-ranking Trump-era national security officials, about the incident.

The July 2021 meeting was held at Trump’s golf club in Bedminster, New Jersey, with two people working on the autobiography of Trump’s former chief of staff Mark Meadows as well as aides employed by the former president, including communications specialist Margo Martin. The attendees, sources said, did not have security clearances that would allow them access to classified information. Meadows didn’t attend the meeting, sources said. Meadows’ autobiography includes an account of what appears to be the same meeting, during which Trump “recalls a four-page report typed up by (Trump’s former chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff) Mark Milley himself. It contained the general’s own plan to attack Iran, deploying massive numbers of troops, something he urged President Trump to do more than once during his presidency.” The document Trump references was not produced by Milley, CNN was told.

The revelation that the former president and commander-in-chief has been captured on tape discussing a classified document could raise his legal exposure as he continues his third bid for the White House. Trump has denied any wrongdoing.
https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/31/politics ... index.html
"Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but not their own facts." - Daniel Patrick Moynihan

Re: Orange spirochete indictment thread

322
Absolute, hard-core, unimpeachable evidence that TOS KNEW he was committing a felony, KNEW the documents were still classified, LIED when he said he had declassified them as President, KNEW HE HAD NOT, and now may WELL be facing, of all things, ESPIONAGE charges, like the life-long traitor he has always been. "Antifa" men who gave their lives to stop "the Huns" in WWI and the fascists in WWII were, in the words of TOS "Suckers and losers".

Super-Max Life Without Parole for the WORST traitor since the Confederates.
"Even if the bee could explain to the fly why pollen is better than shit, the fly could never understand."

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest