Where The Rugers Are
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I figured you lived in San Francisco by your handle …haha. VA is a little bit more firearm friendly.CowboyT wrote:Wow, that's higher than our prices! And we actually have 'em in stock! Geez....
Shame about California...but that's what happens when people just blindly vote Party instead of properly investigating the candidates, ESPECIALLY during the Primary Elections where you get to choose which candidate runs under your Party banner.
The Democrats tried to ruin Virginia the same way that they've already ruined California, New York, Massachusetts, Maryland, and other places. They had some measure of success, but fortunately, it wasn't complete. And they paid for it last go-around here in our Statewide elections.
SunRiseWest wrote: Tue Nov 29, 2022 12:26 amHuh-- Not my experience at all. I got my Rough Rider at a Turner's. It was in stock; I actually asked if I could have one that was from an unsealed box. And was warned that it would delay delivery substantially. Got my pistol 10 days and about 45 minutes after I put down the deposit. I had to go twice initially, but that's because I don't have a "Real ID" card-- and never will-- and while I did bring my passport, I didn't bring a utility bill. (Don't get me started on 'Real ID' cards. Maybe it's just me, but I don't feel that much safer.)highdesert wrote: Sun Nov 20, 2022 12:23 pm I went into a Turners store recently and my experience wasn't good. Their display cases are almost empty in CA, when you buy a firearm they have to order it from the manufacturer. They used to warehouse guns so you'd order and they'd complete the DROS [dealer record of sales] process in CA on the first visit, because they had firearms in stock they'd grab a firearm serial number from their inventory. Now in CA you pay a deposit and they order the firearm from the manufacturer and they don't contact you when it's in, keep calling to see if they have received it. When you've verified that they've received it, the whole DROS process can then start and you have to go in with all the right verifications and then the 10 day waiting period starts. It will be 3 or 4 visits to the gun shop before you get the gun, as long as your criminal record is clean.
AZ has few firearms restrictions, but CA has a lot of restrictions and that's due to the Democratic Party in California.
It's not the greatest place. They do get a lot of complaints. I did okay there. Hope to find a more mom-and-pop type place eventually.
Born and raised in San Francisco and will always be proud of it. :-)INVICTVS138 wrote: Tue Nov 29, 2022 8:51 amI figured you lived in San Francisco by your handle …haha. VA is a little bit more firearm friendly.CowboyT wrote:Wow, that's higher than our prices! And we actually have 'em in stock! Geez....
Shame about California...but that's what happens when people just blindly vote Party instead of properly investigating the candidates, ESPECIALLY during the Primary Elections where you get to choose which candidate runs under your Party banner.
The Democrats tried to ruin Virginia the same way that they've already ruined California, New York, Massachusetts, Maryland, and other places. They had some measure of success, but fortunately, it wasn't complete. And they paid for it last go-around here in our Statewide elections.
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Let's talk about this regulation. It actually made some sense when enacted, probably saved your bits. Then, as CA usually does, they added loaded chamber indicators and magazine safteys to the list of must haves. Ok. But, not being able to leave well enough alone, they added that microstamping thing. That thing that doesn't exist. So, that is why no new guns have been added to the roster since 2013. And it is why we now have a LEO fueled black market of sorts for off roster guns. And why we don't have guns that folk with poor hand strength can shoot. Or guns with improved safety mechanisms. So, something that made sense was piled on to create a slow moving ban. It's a prime example of CA gun control. And why I've moved toward the view that government can't handle firearms regulations in a judicious way. It has become persecutory.CDFingers wrote: Tue Nov 29, 2022 1:41 pm Let me relate to you all a small tale. At a certain moment I had my Ruger Vaquero loiaded with six rounds, and it sat in the holster not on the belt with the cartridge loops. I picked it up by the holster, and it slipped out and dropped to the floor between my legs, landing right on the hammer. I am alive today because of the transfer bar safety system. That the roster exists and that many companies won't submit multiple weapons for testing is most unfortunate. That I am alive is due to the transfer bar safety system. I would suggest that avoiding two or three thousand bucks by gun makers to diss on California's roster is more a factor of love of profit than it is to foolish gun laws.
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Then that same roster should apply to the police as well, yes?CDFingers wrote: Tue Nov 29, 2022 1:41 pm Let me relate to you all a small tale. At a certain moment I had my Ruger Vaquero loiaded with six rounds, and it sat in the holster not on the belt with the cartridge loops. I picked it up by the holster, and it slipped out and dropped to the floor between my legs, landing right on the hammer. I am alive today because of the transfer bar safety system. That the roster exists and that many companies won't submit multiple weapons for testing is most unfortunate. That I am alive is due to the transfer bar safety system. I would suggest that avoiding two or three thousand bucks by gun makers to diss on California's roster is more a factor of love of profit than it is to foolish gun laws.
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I agree, but Democratic and Republican politicians in CA suck up to them for their election endorsements. It's not just the police chiefs, the sheriffs and the CHP associations, they also suck up to the police unions. Cops don't worry about the Roster, because it doesn't apply to them.Bisbee wrote: Thu Dec 01, 2022 9:06 pm Police are not a special class of citizenry… no matter what they believe.
Yes.CowboyT wrote: Thu Dec 01, 2022 7:11 pmThen that same roster should apply to the police as well, yes?CDFingers wrote: Tue Nov 29, 2022 1:41 pm Let me relate to you all a small tale. At a certain moment I had my Ruger Vaquero loiaded with six rounds, and it sat in the holster not on the belt with the cartridge loops. I picked it up by the holster, and it slipped out and dropped to the floor between my legs, landing right on the hammer. I am alive today because of the transfer bar safety system. That the roster exists and that many companies won't submit multiple weapons for testing is most unfortunate. That I am alive is due to the transfer bar safety system. I would suggest that avoiding two or three thousand bucks by gun makers to diss on California's roster is more a factor of love of profit than it is to foolish gun laws.
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