What do we think of the JW-2000 coach gun? I looked up reviews online and about half of them say they are terrible and the other half say they are great.
The only reason I ask is that my local pawn shop has one. It’s not the most practical gun in the world, but I sure liked the way it felt in my hands. I’m finding I really like “cowboy guns.”
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2My research of them was that they’re fine but aren’t recommended for steel shot. Around here they’re the same price as a Stoeger which is good with all shot. Also, the ones I’ve seen have external hammers. That’s fine if you’re fine with it. I want hammerless.
So, If you’re good with the configuration and Are good with lead only (or risking a bit of wear on a cheap shotgun) then go for it.
So, If you’re good with the configuration and Are good with lead only (or risking a bit of wear on a cheap shotgun) then go for it.
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3Well, your love for cowboy guns about sums it up then. Cowboy actions of all sorts are mainly a feel good thing, convention and practicality be damned. If it makes you smile then go for it. Otherwise it’s just out-dated tech to mall-ninjas.
About the only thing more useless for HD than a double barreled shotgun is a single shot or a sharp stick. But it’s certainly a hoot to unload both barrels into a watermelon!
About the only thing more useless for HD than a double barreled shotgun is a single shot or a sharp stick. But it’s certainly a hoot to unload both barrels into a watermelon!
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4Really? I mean I’m not wound up about the home defense aspect but I’d think that the large majority of burglars wouldn’t wait around to see if there’s a third shot. You may not be prepared for a running gun battle but I don’t think that’s a high probability scenario.
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5Home invasion is very rare, but when it happens you’re likely facing multiple perps. They know that one guy invading a house is basically suicide, so they tend to gang up.bajajoaquin wrote: Mon May 18, 2020 11:51 pm Really? I mean I’m not wound up about the home defense aspect but I’d think that the large majority of burglars wouldn’t wait around to see if there’s a third shot. You may not be prepared for a running gun battle but I don’t think that’s a high probability scenario.
https://youtu.be/ZePsHWi2PWo
https://youtu.be/7CjofkDV12w
https://youtu.be/2QesUgAjVsE
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6While it looks cool, pretty impractical for actual use- no choke at all on it, nor is it threaded to take them, so you won't be taking it (successfully anyway) to shoot clays with without them. For home defense, not something I'd pick either- unless you're planning on leaving it loaded, fine motor skills in a stressful situation are tougher. Maneuverability in the average house will be tough, and no light because you've got two hands on the gun. And shooting in the dark is a fucking terrible idea. That's how kids and family members get killed.
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7I think it could make a decent doorbell with a couple slugs in it, just in case you need to put one through the front door and then switch to your HD sidearm of choice if the house is breached after that. I have eyed one of those myself, would make me happy to shoot for fun, which is all it would likely ever be used for anyway.
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8Looks to me like those support my statement. Intruders scatter when faced with a forceful response. In the first case, we don’t have details but two fled after the first was shot. In the second, two shots were fired, driving off the burglars. Third one was a hail of bullets, but people armed with knives and brass knuckles aren’t going to stick around in the face of shotgun blasts.Stiff wrote: Tue May 19, 2020 5:23 amHome invasion is very rare, but when it happens you’re likely facing multiple perps. They know that one guy invading a house is basically suicide, so they tend to gang up.bajajoaquin wrote: Mon May 18, 2020 11:51 pm Really? I mean I’m not wound up about the home defense aspect but I’d think that the large majority of burglars wouldn’t wait around to see if there’s a third shot. You may not be prepared for a running gun battle but I don’t think that’s a high probability scenario.
https://youtu.be/ZePsHWi2PWo
https://youtu.be/7CjofkDV12w
https://youtu.be/2QesUgAjVsE
If OP wants a coach gun anyway, then I don’t think the JW2000 is a bad idea.
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9Ya sure I've lusted after a double barrel coach gun with exposed hammers and a legally short barrel length. But I never did the deed. They look cool, and they're the perfect tool for dispatching watermelons and for storing several hundred dollars. Other than that, meh.
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10If you want it, get it. It will be a range toy. If you want something more practical, plenty of other options exist. If it's cheap, then why not?
I want a lever gun in .357 and a bullpup rifle for the same reason. I do realize that I don't need them and they wouldn't be my HD choice. Probably too expensive for a truck gun versus other choices. But I still want them.
Coach guns look cool and might be fun. I have more fun with shotguns in wide open spaces than indoor ranges. I don't know your situation, but I wouldn't get one for myself if I could only shoot it at an indoor range. YMMV
I want a lever gun in .357 and a bullpup rifle for the same reason. I do realize that I don't need them and they wouldn't be my HD choice. Probably too expensive for a truck gun versus other choices. But I still want them.
Coach guns look cool and might be fun. I have more fun with shotguns in wide open spaces than indoor ranges. I don't know your situation, but I wouldn't get one for myself if I could only shoot it at an indoor range. YMMV
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11That's a great description. I wonder how well they store the money, though. They may leak a bit...CDFingers wrote: Tue May 19, 2020 10:47 am Ya sure I've lusted after a double barrel coach gun with exposed hammers and a legally short barrel length. But I never did the deed. They look cool, and they're the perfect tool for dispatching watermelons and for storing several hundred dollars. Other than that, meh.
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12I have a Stoeger Coach SxS in 12 ga. It's a fun toy to take to the range every once in a while, but any one of my pump shotguns is far superior for a home defense scenario.
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13Not just in Sicily, Sea Biscuit.
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14In the second video, the woman is Asian, and the home appears to be filled with restaurant supplies. I'm going to speculate that the 3 home invaders targeted her because she owns a restaurant. Unfortunately, owners of Asian food restaurants have been targets in the past because the robbers assume 1) Asians keep large amounts of cash and jewelry in the house, 2) Asians do not own guns, and 3) Asians will submit passively. A typical MO is to follow the owner home after they close up the restaurant.Stiff wrote: Tue May 19, 2020 5:23 amHome invasion is very rare, but when it happens you’re likely facing multiple perps. They know that one guy invading a house is basically suicide, so they tend to gang up.bajajoaquin wrote: Mon May 18, 2020 11:51 pm Really? I mean I’m not wound up about the home defense aspect but I’d think that the large majority of burglars wouldn’t wait around to see if there’s a third shot. You may not be prepared for a running gun battle but I don’t think that’s a high probability scenario.
https://youtu.be/ZePsHWi2PWo
https://youtu.be/7CjofkDV12w
https://youtu.be/2QesUgAjVsE
I notice the 3 robbers in the video manage to maintain pretty good muzzle discipline while they scurry about the house. Guns pointed down, and they don't sweep each other. I've seen worse on the firing line at my local shooting range. Though I believe I see a few fingers on triggers.
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15That last one was bad news, and the girl's life is over. Sorry those three idiots had to die before they had a chance to figure things out.
So it goes.
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So it goes.
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16According to the girl who was the "mastermind" of the caper gone wrong, they didn't think anyone was home, so they went ahead and broke in. Really? A bunch of morons. Ring the doorbell multiple times and then hide nearby. If the light comes on inside, then someone is home.CDFingers wrote: Tue May 19, 2020 12:45 pm That last one was bad news, and the girl's life is over. Sorry those three idiots had to die before they had a chance to figure things out.
So it goes.
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17Sumina breached!blackcarbine wrote: Tue May 19, 2020 10:03 am I think it could make a decent doorbell with a couple slugs in it, just in case you need to put one through the front door and then switch to your HD sidearm of choice if the house is breached after that. I have eyed one of those myself, would make me happy to shoot for fun, which is all it would likely ever be used for anyway.
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18If one shot is all it takes, then a pistol or a revolver is better. One hand uses the gun, the other holds the phone calling 911. Stopping power doesn’t matter if they’re already running away.bajajoaquin wrote: Tue May 19, 2020 10:36 amLooks to me like those support my statement. Intruders scatter when faced with a forceful response. In the first case, we don’t have details but two fled after the first was shot. In the second, two shots were fired, driving off the burglars. Third one was a hail of bullets, but people armed with knives and brass knuckles aren’t going to stick around in the face of shotgun blasts.Stiff wrote: Tue May 19, 2020 5:23 amHome invasion is very rare, but when it happens you’re likely facing multiple perps. They know that one guy invading a house is basically suicide, so they tend to gang up.bajajoaquin wrote: Mon May 18, 2020 11:51 pm Really? I mean I’m not wound up about the home defense aspect but I’d think that the large majority of burglars wouldn’t wait around to see if there’s a third shot. You may not be prepared for a running gun battle but I don’t think that’s a high probability scenario.
https://youtu.be/ZePsHWi2PWo
https://youtu.be/7CjofkDV12w
https://youtu.be/2QesUgAjVsE
If OP wants a coach gun anyway, then I don’t think the JW2000 is a bad idea.
Glad that federal government is boring again.
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19I'd rather scare them away than have to shoot them.
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20I'd recommend living in a brick house and getting a flamethrower...napalm has a pretty big deterrent factor.CDFingers wrote: Tue May 19, 2020 7:42 pm I'd rather scare them away than have to shoot them.
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21a moat with gators, another great deterrentsenorgrand wrote: Tue May 19, 2020 7:59 pmI'd recommend living in a brick house and getting a flamethrower...napalm has a pretty big deterrent factor.CDFingers wrote: Tue May 19, 2020 7:42 pm I'd rather scare them away than have to shoot them.
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24That’s my impression as well. What’s interesting is that the bad guys couldn’t find / couldn’t get to the bedroom, which was very advantageous to the owners. They were rummaging around until the lady popped out blazing.TxChinaman wrote: Tue May 19, 2020 12:28 pm In the second video, the woman is Asian, and the home appears to be filled with restaurant supplies. I'm going to speculate that the 3 home invaders targeted her because she owns a restaurant. Unfortunately, owners of Asian food restaurants have been targets in the past because the robbers assume 1) Asians keep large amounts of cash and jewelry in the house, 2) Asians do not own guns, and 3) Asians will submit passively. A typical MO is to follow the owner home after they close up the restaurant.
I notice the 3 robbers in the video manage to maintain pretty good muzzle discipline while they scurry about the house. Guns pointed down, and they don't sweep each other. I've seen worse on the firing line at my local shooting range. Though I believe I see a few fingers on triggers.
It’s scary because the robbers seemed halfway competent. Of course, they could simply be emulating movies.
Glad that federal government is boring again.
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25An alternative...?
It is an unfortunate human failing that a full pocketbook often groans more loudly than an empty stomach.
- Franklin D. Roosevelt
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