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The 28 gauge as a defensive shotgun...

#1 Post by Pfletch83 » Mon Oct 16, 2017 4:58 pm

I've worked with .410 Mossberg Model 500 E series shotguns in the past. I've seen where the little pump actions can be used to great effect for in home defense as a firearm that would work with all members of the family that can shoulder it.

I've also stated that a 28 gauge would be even better; more so with a 3-inch load of #4 buck,#3 Buck,and Slugs.

The 28 gauge has been a favorite of small game hunters and it would be just as well suited with the correct ammunition as a defensive shotgun.

What do other scattergun users think?

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#2 Post by Marlene » Mon Oct 16, 2017 5:09 pm

Yup. Prolly.
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#3 Post by senorgrand » Mon Oct 16, 2017 5:15 pm

I'm guessing there aren't a whole lot of defensive loads for it. I'd want to check on that first. A low recoil 20 might be just as good.

But yeah, some folks like the 410 for defense and the 28 is at least "one louder", so sure.
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#4 Post by CDFingers » Mon Oct 16, 2017 8:59 pm

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#5 Post by Inquisitor » Mon Oct 16, 2017 10:02 pm

Our defensive Sherpa seems to prefer 20g as a go to defensive scattergun. I’ve not dug into his reasoning.


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#6 Post by JamesH » Tue Oct 17, 2017 5:06 am

At close ranges, like one might encounter in home defense situations, I've read that birdshot rounds with small diameter pellets (#7 1/2-9) act like slugs (that is, one single lead projectile) but don't penetrate walls as well as a single, solid mass (again, slugs). Therefore birdshot might be better in a situation where there are thin walls or neighbors close by, such as apartment complexes or duplexes. Can't confirm from personal experience.

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#7 Post by FlyGuy » Tue Oct 17, 2017 7:09 am

JamesH wrote:At close ranges, like one might encounter in home defense situations, I've read that birdshot rounds with small diameter pellets (#7 1/2-9) act like slugs (that is, one single lead projectile) but don't penetrate walls as well as a single, solid mass (again, slugs). Therefore birdshot might be better in a situation where there are thin walls or neighbors close by, such as apartment complexes or duplexes. Can't confirm from personal experience.
This statement begs the question, where are you defending, house in the country, suburb, or apartment? You have to be aware of what happens behind the target. You really don't want to be the guy who shots the neighbors through a couple of walls. If your not worried about neighbors or stains on the carpet, then I say the bigger the better.
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#8 Post by Wrboz » Tue Oct 17, 2017 9:11 pm

What’s a 3 inch 28 ga shell have for shot? Maybe an ounce?
That’s what the 3 buck load in my 20 ga weighs. So where is the advantage?
Tougher to obtain and more expensive ammo with no decrease in recoil.

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#9 Post by SubRosa » Wed Oct 18, 2017 1:53 am

Birdshot is for birds. :thumbsdown:

Buck/slugs are for intruders. :thumbup:

You don't want to wing 'em. :no:

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#10 Post by nigel » Wed Oct 18, 2017 12:12 pm

SubRosa wrote:Birdshot is for birds. :thumbsdown:

Buck/slugs are for intruders. :thumbup:

You don't want to wing 'em. :no:

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#11 Post by Bucolic » Wed Oct 18, 2017 2:22 pm

I have not looked into 28 gauge but I have found that there is a good variety of SD options for the .410. I have a Mossberg .410 for Home Defense that I keep loaded with 00 buck and keep slugs and those PDX loads handy.


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#12 Post by Wrboz » Wed Oct 18, 2017 6:30 pm

All the .410 loads that came out to feed revolvers have certainly made the gauge viable for home defense.

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#13 Post by highdesert » Thu Oct 19, 2017 2:38 pm

JamesH wrote:At close ranges, like one might encounter in home defense situations, I've read that birdshot rounds with small diameter pellets (#7 1/2-9) act like slugs (that is, one single lead projectile) but don't penetrate walls as well as a single, solid mass (again, slugs). Therefore birdshot might be better in a situation where there are thin walls or neighbors close by, such as apartment complexes or duplexes. Can't confirm from personal experience.
Definitely a consideration in home defense.
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#14 Post by featureless » Thu Oct 19, 2017 4:58 pm

I still find the .223/5.56 to be superior to a shotgun for defensive purposes. Less over penetration and higher capacity are good qualities. That said, I do have a 20GA 1100 just in case. Plus it's prettier and less assaulty than the black rifles. ;)

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#15 Post by DavidMS » Sun Nov 12, 2017 5:38 pm

If there are quality buckshot and slugs loaded into 28 gauge hulls, its probably a viable choice. I wound favor the 20 gauge as ammunition will be more readily available.

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