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Winchester 97 Project Log

#1 Post by CDFingers » Mon Feb 13, 2017 4:46 pm

Literally a box of parts. In there were the big stuff and two ziploc bags--heavy duty bags, mind you. But bags.

What I know: serial number tracks to 1906. Barrel is 22 3/8" from the shoulder to the muzzle. There's a hole to attach the bead sight. Magazine tube is there, slide is there. No mag spring nor plug.

I have not yet made an inventory of what's here. Just got it from the FFL today, so pics.

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This says 12 GA then CYL. On the other side it says CYL 37

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When things settle down for the night, or if I wake up at all hours, I'll start to see what I've got.

I'm pretty slow at projects, so those among us who live a life of leisure can follow, well, at your leisure. I'm writing it down so I remember what I did.

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#2 Post by SailDesign » Mon Feb 13, 2017 4:50 pm

Phew!! My first thought was "Dear God, he's not still using Windows 97 is he?" :)
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#3 Post by dandad » Mon Feb 13, 2017 7:39 pm

Thats a good start.

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#4 Post by dandad » Mon Feb 13, 2017 7:40 pm

SailDesign wrote:Phew!! My first thought was "Dear God, he's not still using Windows 97 is he?" :)
I think Fingers actually still uses DOS 3.0. Or is that Linux ?



CDFingers wrote:Literally a box of parts. In there were the big stuff and two ziploc bags--heavy duty bags, mind you. But bags.

What I know: serial number tracks to 1906. Barrel is 22 3/8" from the shoulder to the muzzle. There's a hole to attach the bead sight. Magazine tube is there, slide is there. No mag spring nor plug.

I have not yet made an inventory of what's here. Just got it from the FFL today, so pics.

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This says 12 GA then CYL. On the other side it says CYL 37

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When things settle down for the night, or if I wake up at all hours, I'll start to see what I've got.

I'm pretty slow at projects, so those among us who live a life of leisure can follow, well, at your leisure. I'm writing it down so I remember what I did.

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#5 Post by CDFingers » Mon Feb 13, 2017 7:45 pm

I'll have you young whippersnappers know I still have Netscape 1.0 on floppy. And I have a machine in the closet running Windows 97. So I went in and changed the title to Winchester.

Some assembly required.

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#6 Post by SailDesign » Mon Feb 13, 2017 8:22 pm

CDFingers wrote:I'll have you young whippersnappers know I still have Netscape 1.0 on floppy. And I have a machine in the closet running Windows 97. So I went in and changed the title to Winchester.

Some assembly required.

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#7 Post by dandad » Mon Feb 13, 2017 8:55 pm

SailDesign wrote:
CDFingers wrote:I'll have you young whippersnappers know I still have Netscape 1.0 on floppy. And I have a machine in the closet running Windows 97. So I went in and changed the title to Winchester.

Some assembly required.

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Hah! I still have a 1909 Burroughs adding machine in the basement - mechanical, accurate, make a great boat anchor some day.
I started putering in '72 with IBM, running HASP on a 360/75. Streaming tape drives, Winchester disks (cos they had 30 tracks, 30 sectors...) and (gasp!) a special 20 by 20 foot room housing the world's first ever floppy disk. :)

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#8 Post by valen » Wed Mar 01, 2017 10:40 am

One of these Winchesters is high on my list of guns to purchase next. There is a gunsmith near me that refurbishes them for cowboy shooting and I'm saving my pennies to get one of his before he retires.

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#9 Post by Simmer down » Wed Mar 01, 2017 11:01 am

Start scanning ebay so you'll have an idea of what parts cost and availability. Typically waaaay cheaper than parts listed on gunbroker and others.
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#10 Post by dandad » Wed Mar 01, 2017 9:12 pm

valen wrote:One of these Winchesters is high on my list of guns to purchase next. There is a gunsmith near me that refurbishes them for cowboy shooting and I'm saving my pennies to get one of his before he retires.
Southside pawn on broadway here in st.lous has a couple. 2 break downs too. Range from 330 to $399. Asking price. They do haggle down.
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#11 Post by CDFingers » Mon Mar 13, 2017 9:28 am

Found a really fine video with excellent animation--3-D, no less--showing the operation of everything. Helps me a lot with this box o' parts.

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#12 Post by dandad » Mon Mar 13, 2017 11:24 am

Well, you going to share a link or just brag ?
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#13 Post by CDFingers » Mon Mar 13, 2017 12:11 pm

This is weird. I'm seeing the youtube vid. You not?

This is the link

https://youtu.be/Abf8PS-sMHI

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#14 Post by dandad » Mon Mar 13, 2017 12:43 pm

CDFingers wrote:This is weird. I'm seeing the youtube vid. You not?

This is the link

https://youtu.be/Abf8PS-sMHI

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#15 Post by HuckleberryFun » Sun Feb 04, 2018 10:50 am

Rather than start a new “Winchester 97 Project” thread I’ll just revive this one, if CdFingers doesn’t mind.
Yesterday I picked up an old (1916 production) Winchester 97E for a song. It’s in rough shape, with a chunky aftermarket stock that is itself pretty old (1950s maybe?). It shoots fine though, after generous cleaning and lubing. I plan to cut the 30” full choke barrel down to 18 1/2” with internal chokes, put on a new stock, an Evil Roy 6 round conversion kit, and some other tweaks to make it into a SASS cowboy action shotgun. It needs rebluing (I’ll pass on the gunstore’s offer to Cerakote it :o )
Stay tuned.

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#16 Post by rascally » Tue Feb 06, 2018 5:34 pm

I've got just the thing for butt-hurt shoulders...

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#17 Post by zzrguy » Tue Feb 06, 2018 8:17 pm

Cold blue it your self. I've done a couple of shotgun one I got from a fire and the other out of a old barn both came out pretty good. Prep is key.the one from the barn had some pitting and came out ok blue was satiny but not even between the parts. The gun from the fire I spent days polishing the barrel mag rude and receiver and hot damn it looked hreat sadly I sold it to pay some bills but I know where it is.
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#18 Post by HuckleberryFun » Wed Feb 07, 2018 2:24 pm

UPDATE: After a little research I’ve reconsidered shortening the barrel. So many people are chopping up ‘97 barrels that original longs are getting harder to find. I’ll keep the 30” full choke barrel for casual trap shooting (this model ruled the roost for trap around the turn of the last century). I’ll look for another short barrel to swap out when I need to. There are a lot of nice original and aftermarket barrels, stocks and butt plates available. (I hate seeing classic cars chopped up too, so staying stock suits me better).
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#19 Post by Marlene » Wed Feb 07, 2018 2:50 pm

Given how cheap and good the Chinese 97s are, that’s probably a better choice for competitive shooting anyway.

As the owner of a chopped 97 that I wish was longer, I fully support your call.

Can you link to aftermarket barrels you’ve seen?
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#20 Post by HuckleberryFun » Wed Feb 07, 2018 3:16 pm

Marlene wrote:Given how cheap and good the Chinese 97s are, that’s probably a better choice for competitive shooting anyway.

As the owner of a chopped 97 that I wish was longer, I fully support your call.

Can you link to aftermarket barrels you’ve seen?
I looked again, and the new aftermarket barrel is a 40” match barrel for $125, but it’s for a std fixed stock not a TD, sorry.
This guy has several used TD barrel lengths. The 30” costs $200 though:
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#21 Post by FrontSight » Fri Feb 23, 2018 5:54 pm

CDF - Are you familiar with how the wear ring works on a '97? If not, get your google-fu going; because you need to know that.
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#22 Post by CDFingers » Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:52 pm

FrontSight wrote:CDF - Are you familiar with how the wear ring works on a '97? If not, get your google-fu going; because you need to know that.
Thanks for the heads up. I am ignorant--in general, but particularly here. I've been distracted from the project by non hobby life. Yet the box of parts sits at my feet this very minute. Nice to see this.

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#23 Post by FrontSight » Tue Feb 27, 2018 7:49 pm

Yeah, I have a few of those kinds of projects.
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