Mexico decriminalizes abortion

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Mexico decriminalizes abortion, a dramatic step in world's second-biggest Catholic country. Update: Mexico's supreme court voted unanimously Tuesday to decriminalize abortion. The court's decision makes Mexico the most populous country in Latin America to permit the procedure.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/20 ... eme-court/

There is going be a lot of traffic between the border cities of Texas and Mexico.
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Glad to hear it, but decriminalizing it isn't legalizing it and it was done like Roe v Wade by order of Mexico's highest court. Cannabis in Mexico was first decriminalized later legalized by Mexico's highest court, not by legislation. Argentina legalized abortion in 2020, a bill passed their National Congress and was signed into law by their president.
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Anyone says they are "pro-Life" I don't believe them unless they are also:
Pro-Birth Control
Pro-Sex Ed
Pro-Guaranteed Pre-Natal Care
Pro-Guaranteed Post-Natal Care for both the mother and child.
Pro-Head Start
Pro-Vaccinations
Pro-Free School Lunches
Pro-Public Schools
Pro-Equal distribution of school funds
Pro-Voting rights for all adult citizens
Pro-Outlawing the death penalty
Pro-Outlawing Qualified Immunity
Pro-Root Cause Mitigation of Violence and Hospital Violence Intervention
Pro-Decriminalization of most drug laws
Etc.

Otherwise, they are just looking to control when and how women (and men) have sex.
"Even if the bee could explain to the fly why pollen is better than shit, the fly could never understand."

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YankeeTarheel wrote: Wed Sep 08, 2021 9:42 am Anyone says they are "pro-Life" I don't believe them unless they are also:
Pro-Birth Control
Pro-Sex Ed
Pro-Guaranteed Pre-Natal Care
Pro-Guaranteed Post-Natal Care for both the mother and child.
Pro-Head Start
Pro-Vaccinations
Pro-Free School Lunches
Pro-Public Schools
Pro-Equal distribution of school funds
Pro-Voting rights for all adult citizens
Pro-Outlawing the death penalty
Pro-Outlawing Qualified Immunity
Pro-Root Cause Mitigation of Violence and Hospital Violence Intervention
Pro-Decriminalization of most drug laws
Etc.

Otherwise, they are just looking to control when and how women (and men) have sex.
That sounds awful like socialism to me. We can't have that in America because next we would have Communism and then we would have those other people living next door to me. :sarcasm:

As for the Anti-abortion I have a solution. The father of the child will be required to provide adequate child and mother support until the child reaches adulthood. Adequate is defined as well above poverty level shelter, food, basic necessities, and other needs without support from the state. If the mother decides to give up the child for adoption, then the father will still have to pay into an education trust for the child.
Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored.-Huxley
"We can have democracy in this country, or we can have great wealth concentrated in the hands of a few, but we can't have both." ~ Louis Brandeis,

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Oh, yeah, I forgot to add reducing the paperwork and costs of adoption, while guaranteeing the child will be safe.
As the father of an adopted child, I remember how expensive it was--people who don't have my resources but can provide a safe, happy home should be able to easily and cheaply adopt children. And cut the shit about preventing cross-racial, single parent, and LGBTQ adoptions based on prejudice, rather than facts about the specific applicants.
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YankeeTarheel wrote: Wed Sep 08, 2021 11:02 am Oh, yeah, I forgot to add reducing the paperwork and costs of adoption, while guaranteeing the child will be safe.
As the father of an adopted child, I remember how expensive it was--people who don't have my resources but can provide a safe, happy home should be able to easily and cheaply adopt children. And cut the shit about preventing cross-racial, single parent, and LGBTQ adoptions based on prejudice, rather than facts about the specific applicants.
I agree as my adopted son is now 33 years old. We adopted him when he was still at the hospital.
Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored.-Huxley
"We can have democracy in this country, or we can have great wealth concentrated in the hands of a few, but we can't have both." ~ Louis Brandeis,

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TrueTexan wrote: Wed Sep 08, 2021 11:13 am
YankeeTarheel wrote: Wed Sep 08, 2021 11:02 am Oh, yeah, I forgot to add reducing the paperwork and costs of adoption, while guaranteeing the child will be safe.
As the father of an adopted child, I remember how expensive it was--people who don't have my resources but can provide a safe, happy home should be able to easily and cheaply adopt children. And cut the shit about preventing cross-racial, single parent, and LGBTQ adoptions based on prejudice, rather than facts about the specific applicants.
I agree as my adopted son is now 33 years old. We adopted him when he was still at the hospital.
Ours is 16, born in Central America, brought him home at 5 1/2 months. But he was ours at 10 days. Great kid. Runs cross-country, plays trumpet and guitar, taught himself keyboard (he has our old, Korg electric piano--an entry level one but it still works.), nearly straight A's. "Adopted" to us means no more than an alternative way to have a kid. His older brother (home-brewed) wanted a brother and pushed us to adopt. Now, 26, he adores and is super-protective of his baby brother.
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Interesting. We were working with an adoption agency that primarily adopted from Latin America, but was a also licensed to adopt in Texas. We thought we would be adopting from South America. Well I was at work 3-11 in the ED when I was told I had a phone call. It was the agency calling they had a newborn baby boy in Austin for adoption if we were interested. I said yes, Looked at my boss and another nurse and told them but we don't have any thing for a new born baby. My boss looked at me and said go home I'll work your shift you are now on maturity leave. He was the Prom night product of a girl and the BMOC football player that left her for a college scholarship to play football.

Here is where the story really gets interested. We lived next door to my parents at the time. They had gone to Austin for a VFW convention and was within 5 miles of the hospital when our son was born. Later they left Austin and drove to Port Lavaca, TX where I had been born. I was a six month premature baby the doctor that delivered me and cared for me was still in practice. They stopped by to see him and was in his office when I got the call about the adoption. When Wife and I were about to leave to go to Austin my parents pulled into their drive way. We said, Hi going to get our son be back later.

As a kid he was a handful. Talent gifted, reading Jurassic Park in kindergarten and my wife microbiology books in first grade. with understanding. In middle school he played the trumpet and after braces the bass horn played for one month and went all district. Finally after many visits with vice principals in middle school due to him being bullied, we pulled him out and home schooled him till he was 16 and started college. Has a degree in organic chemistry and is now a master chef.

I would love to see that children could be adopted more easily. We had used this agency we did because the others would not even talk to us because we weren't of their faith or they were way too expensive.
Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored.-Huxley
"We can have democracy in this country, or we can have great wealth concentrated in the hands of a few, but we can't have both." ~ Louis Brandeis,

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TrueTexan wrote: Wed Sep 08, 2021 1:22 pm Interesting. We were working with an adoption agency that primarily adopted from Latin America, but was a also licensed to adopt in Texas. We thought we would be adopting from South America. Well I was at work 3-11 in the ED when I was told I had a phone call. It was the agency calling they had a newborn baby boy in Austin for adoption if we were interested. I said yes, Looked at my boss and another nurse and told them but we don't have any thing for a new born baby. My boss looked at me and said go home I'll work your shift you are now on maturity leave. He was the Prom night product of a girl and the BMOC football player that left her for a college scholarship to play football.

Here is where the story really gets interested. We lived next door to my parents at the time. They had gone to Austin for a VFW convention and was within 5 miles of the hospital when our son was born. Later they left Austin and drove to Port Lavaca, TX where I had been born. I was a six month premature baby the doctor that delivered me and cared for me was still in practice. They stopped by to see him and was in his office when I got the call about the adoption. When Wife and I were about to leave to go to Austin my parents pulled into their drive way. We said, Hi going to get our son be back later.

As a kid he was a handful. Talent gifted, reading Jurassic Park in kindergarten and my wife microbiology books in first grade. with understanding. In middle school he played the trumpet and after braces the bass horn played for one month and went all district. Finally after many visits with vice principals in middle school due to him being bullied, we pulled him out and home schooled him till he was 16 and started college. Has a degree in organic chemistry and is now a master chef.

I would love to see that children could be adopted more easily. We had used this agency we did because the others would not even talk to us because we weren't of their faith or they were way too expensive.
Great experience. We thought about adopting decided on cats. The scrutiny is something I didn’t want us to go through. It was selfish for sure. Y’all made a good choice.
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