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Sure TX and FL will gerrymander the new House districts so they'll be at least majority Republican. If Trump had pushed his followers to complete their census forms, TX and FL could have gotten an extra seat. Those seats would probably have come from the northeast or midwest blue states, Minnesota almost lost a seat.
"Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but not their own facts." - Daniel Patrick Moynihan

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It seems like the ReThugs keep using every trick to fight a rising tide of non-White Americans who don't like them and won't vote for them. Sooner or later, unless they actually DO overthrow our Constitutional Democratic Republic, a la Viktor Orban or Putin, they WILL be overwhelmed and, finally, voted out of office.

Then again, maybe I need to throw my rose-colored glasses in the trash...
"Even if the bee could explain to the fly why pollen is better than shit, the fly could never understand."

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Former President Donald Trump was booed by his own supporters during a rally in Cullman, Alabama Saturday night after he encouraged the crowd to get vaccinated against COVID-19.

"I believe totally in your freedoms, I do, you gotta do what you gotta do, but I recommend take the vaccines. I did it. It's good," he said, drawing boos from the crowd of supporters.


"That's okay, that's alright," Trump continued, brushing off the disapproval. "But I happen to take the vaccine. If it doesn't work, you'll be the first to know. But it is working. You do have your freedoms, you have to maintain that."

A growing number of Republican leaders have urged voters to get the coronavirus vaccine as the highly contagious Delta variant sweeps through most parts of the U.S., driving up cases, deaths and hospitalizations in a new phase of the pandemic.
https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-b ... ne-1621811


He finally realized COVID is killing his followers but it could be too late to change course.
"Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but not their own facts." - Daniel Patrick Moynihan

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A viral post on Reddit shows a dramatic photo of two people lying on the ground sick with COVID-19 seeking treatment. One appears curled against a wall, while another patient draped with a paper medical gown is curled up, face down.

"Everyone please be careful — whether you are vaccinated or not," wrote Suzanne Lopez on Reddit where she posted the photo taken by her husband Louie. "My husband (vaccinated, but positive) has been waiting 2+ hours for monoclonal therapy and he says he has never seen people so sick. Moaning, crying, unable to move."

The Reddit thread drew hundreds of comments about the spread of COVID-19 in Florida, which has experienced a spike in cases this summer.

"I hate to see it, and I hate to say it, but we need more pictures like this showing the reality of the situation," wrote one Reddit user.

The idea that, more than one year into the pandemic, COVID-19 patients in a major city in Florida would be lying on a floor moaning for help seemed improbable. But it’s real, according to city and state officials.
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2 ... s-floor-f/
"Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but not their own facts." - Daniel Patrick Moynihan

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Phil Valentine of Tennessee, we hardly knew ya! Ya paid the price for hewing the line, rueing much too late. Your family got the normal hopes and prayers from the others of your ilk, which I'm sure beguiled them to no end. Thinning the ignorant right wing herd at an increasing pace what with turds Alabama rally last night.
"Being Republican is more than a difference of opinion - it's a character flaw." "COVID can fix STUPID!"
The greatest, most aggrieved mistake EVER made in USA was electing DJT as POTUS.

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CDFingers wrote: Sun Aug 22, 2021 10:02 am Yeah, lurker. It does hurt to watch them die. All's we can do is shake our heads and say, "Ain't it a shame?"

CDFingers
And know that Abbott and DeSantis don't give a flying fuck, as they compete for the primary votes of the bottom-of-the-barrel ReThugs, in 2024.

Newsom's in a recall election in California. These assholes need to be recalled.
"Even if the bee could explain to the fly why pollen is better than shit, the fly could never understand."

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As long as we have those that believe this about COVID we are Screwed.

From Next Door App
Pray that the veil will be lifted from your eyes. These tests are false. They have never isolated the virus they claim is responsible for all the fear mongering. Most children only need a good quality multivitamin and some Zinc as a daily supplement. If a child actually gets symptoms, then you isolate them just as you would the flu.
And many others just like it or worse.
Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored.-Huxley
"We can have democracy in this country, or we can have great wealth concentrated in the hands of a few, but we can't have both." ~ Louis Brandeis,

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A survey by the National Association of Evangelicals found that 95% of evangelical leaders planned to get inoculated, but that number hasn’t translated into widespread advocacy from the pulpit, he said.

The disparity matters because vaccination rates are generally low across the Bible Belt, where Southern and Midwestern churchgoers are a formidable bloc that has proven resistant to vaccination appeals from government leaders and health officials. While many Black and Latino people haven’t been vaccinated, the large number of white evangelical resisters is particularly troubling for health officials.

A poll by The Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research in March showed that 40% of white evangelical Protestants said they likely would not get vaccinated, compared with 25% of all Americans, 28% of white mainline Protestants and 27% of nonwhite Protestants.

Some national voices including Black megachurch minister T.D. Jakes, evangelist Franklin Graham and former Southern Baptist Convention President J.D. Greear have taken public stances in favor of vaccinations. But there hasn’t been a sustained, unified push that could give local pastors “cover” to speak out themselves, Chang said.

First Baptist Trussville has taken multiple steps to guard against spreading the virus, including following public health guidelines and limiting in-person events, according to spokesman and business manager Alan Taylor. Yet when it comes to the vaccines, church leaders consider them “a personal choice,” he said.

“When I am asked personally, I say it was the right choice for me and my wife,” said Taylor, who contracted a relatively rare breakthrough case of COVID-19 despite having been vaccinated. “I firmly believe it helped when I became infected.”

The story is much the same in Mississippi and Georgia, where some churches are returning to online services and some pastors are quietly talking about the need for vaccination.

More than 200 pastors, priests and other church leaders from Missouri went further as cases exploded last month, signing a statement urging Christians to get vaccinated because of the biblical commandment to “love your neighbor as yourself.” Springfield Mayor Ken McClure said the region saw a big jump in vaccinations after the pastor of a large church used his sermon to tell parishioners it was the right thing to do.

Dr. Ellen Eaton, an infectious disease specialist at the University of Alabama at Birmingham, said churches could be effective at promoting vaccination as a way “to love your neighbors during this pandemic.” “Many Southerners are very close to their pastors and church communities. Next to their personal physician, many here in Alabama routinely turn to their church leaders with health issues,” she said.

One pastor at a liberal United Methodist church in Birmingham issued a plea on social media for members to get vaccinated, while the minister at a moderate Baptist church nearby prayed during worship for divine intervention for more vaccinations.

“We pray, Lord, that there will be good judgment used and that people would see the need for the vaccine and that it would be available not only here in our own country but around the world and that that might stem the tide of this terrible, terrible virus,” said the Rev. Timothy L. Kelley of Southside Baptist Church.

Evangelical pastor Keven Blankenship was among those trying to walk that tightrope after COVID-19 invaded his independent church in suburban Birmingham, sickening three of his family members, among others. Initially he didn’t preach about the vaccines, considering it a personal choice.

But on a recent Sunday, during the first in-person services in a month, Blankenship revealed he had gotten his first shot and was due for a second.

“If you feel comfortable receiving it, I want you to receive it. If you don’t feel comfortable, I want you to talk to your doctor and you get your doctor’s guidance,” he told worshipers. “But I want you to do what you feel is the best thing for you and your family, and don’t be bullied into anything.”

Blankenship ended with an “Amen,” said almost as if a question. He was met by silence.
https://apnews.com/article/health-relig ... 7a20161e4e


Also a divide in the US Catholic Church.
The Archdiocese of Philadelphia is the latest district of the Catholic Church to reject religious exemptions to coronavirus vaccination mandates, reflecting a stark divide among the church’s hierarchy over immunization requirements.

Church leaders in the nation’s sixth-largest city urged priests Wednesday not to help parishioners evade the shots, which the Vatican has deemed “morally acceptable.”

“Individuals may wish to pursue an exemption from vaccination based on their own reasons of conscience,” Kenneth Gavin, a spokesman for the Philadelphia Archdiocese, said in a statement. “In such cases, the burden to support such a request is not one for the local Church or its clergy to validate.”

Philadelphia joins at least five other dioceses that have given their priests similar guidance, including San Diego, New York, Los Angeles, Honolulu and Camden, N.J. Their stance sharply contrasts with the position of other bishops and Catholic organizations that have supported those seeking exemptions for reasons of conscience.
In a vaccine promotion campaign, Pope Francis on Wednesday called receiving a vaccine “an act of love.”

“Vaccination is a simple but profound way of promoting the common good and caring for each other, especially the most vulnerable,” he wrote. He added that he hoped “everyone may contribute their own small grain of sand, their own small gesture of love.”
Each Catholic bishop makes policy for his own jurisdiction. Some dioceses, including El Paso and Lexington, Ky., have announced vaccine requirements for their own employees. Mark J. Seitz, the bishop of El Paso, wrote that his decision was guided by Jesus Christ’s focus on the love of neighbor. Bishop John Stowe of Lexington said vaccination was urgent.
Despite disagreement on mandates, most Catholics report having received their shots. Hispanic Catholics’ coronavirus vaccine acceptance stood at 80 percent in June, while 79 percent of White Catholics said they had also been immunized, according to a survey conducted by the Public Religion Research Institute.

The number of Catholics rejecting vaccination for religious reasons is unknown. But some Catholics’ hesitancy to get immunized has centered on the use of fetal cell lines in developing or testing the three federally approved vaccines. The lines are basically reproductions of fetal cells from decades-ago abortions — acts that the Catholic Church teaches are gravely immoral. None of the vaccines include fetal tissue.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/religion ... exemption/
"Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but not their own facts." - Daniel Patrick Moynihan

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If they get uptight about the Fetal line cells for the vaccines they should go totally bookers about the Cancer research, drugs and treatments.
Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored.-Huxley
"We can have democracy in this country, or we can have great wealth concentrated in the hands of a few, but we can't have both." ~ Louis Brandeis,

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highdesert wrote: Sun Aug 22, 2021 9:14 am
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A viral post on Reddit shows a dramatic photo of two people lying on the ground sick with COVID-19 seeking treatment. One appears curled against a wall, while another patient draped with a paper medical gown is curled up, face down.

"Everyone please be careful — whether you are vaccinated or not," wrote Suzanne Lopez on Reddit where she posted the photo taken by her husband Louie. "My husband (vaccinated, but positive) has been waiting 2+ hours for monoclonal therapy and he says he has never seen people so sick. Moaning, crying, unable to move."

The Reddit thread drew hundreds of comments about the spread of COVID-19 in Florida, which has experienced a spike in cases this summer.

"I hate to see it, and I hate to say it, but we need more pictures like this showing the reality of the situation," wrote one Reddit user.

The idea that, more than one year into the pandemic, COVID-19 patients in a major city in Florida would be lying on a floor moaning for help seemed improbable. But it’s real, according to city and state officials.
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2 ... s-floor-f/
Once again, this surge in the pandemic is a pandemic of the unvaccinated..Darwin was a democrat...

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New thread this AM regarding Pfizer approval on Nextdoor - I had to exit quickly as my mind was turning to mush reading the stupidity, misinformation, lies, etc.
"Being Republican is more than a difference of opinion - it's a character flaw." "COVID can fix STUPID!"
The greatest, most aggrieved mistake EVER made in USA was electing DJT as POTUS.

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Wino wrote: Tue Aug 24, 2021 8:20 am New thread this AM regarding Pfizer approval on Nextdoor - I had to exit quickly as my mind was turning to mush reading the stupidity, misinformation, lies, etc.
Here's another good one for us.
Anti-vaxxers are now freaking out about blood donations from the vaccinated

Assuming we don't all die of the Omega! Omega! Omega! COVID-19 strain sometime before the year 2050, it's easy enough to imagine future archeologists rooting through our scattered, bleached bones seeking explanations for why TruckNutz suddenly disappeared from the fossil record in 2040 or so. Eventually, they'll discover that the Americanicus dumbfuckerus branch of the great apes' evolutionary tree suddenly shriveled up, died, and was employed for a time as God's go-to backscratcher before He noticed it gave Him a really gross rash.

Sometimes I wonder how Charles Darwin, the inventor of evil-ution, would have reacted to what's going on these days in Florida and other boggy redoubts. After all, there's a certain piquant irony to the fact that the very people who don't believe in natural selection are eagerly proving its validity every day.

The latest? Well, it's not enough that anti-vaxxers kill themselves with their scientifically ignorant rejection of vaccines. They've upped the ante by making non-COVID-19-related procedures and emergencies problematic, too.

The Daily Beast:

With nearly 60% of the eligible U.S. population fully vaccinated, most of the nation's blood supply is now coming from donors who have been inoculated, experts said. That's led some patients who are skeptical of the shots to demand transfusions only from the unvaccinated, an option blood centers insist is neither medically sound nor operationally feasible.
"We are definitely aware of patients who have refused blood products from vaccinated donors," said Dr. Julie Katz Karp, who directs the blood bank and transfusion medicine program at Thomas Jefferson University Hospitals in Philadelphia.

Sheesh. I may have to hire an assistant to face-palm me every 10 to 15 minutes so that I don't have to stop typing.

It's no exaggeration to say that anti-vaxxers are literally destroying this country right now, in that they're endangering and killing its citizens—both the vaxxed and un-vaxxed. One of these pestilent pod people has infiltrated my own family. I'd pray for her, but 1) I don't believe in God, per se, and 2) if God does exist, He's obviously made preventing COVID-19 a low priority, somewhere behind sopping up every last bit of moisture in the American West and killing off enough organ donors to allow Dick Cheney to install a new heart every time he changes the smoke detector batteries in his bunker.

You might think, all things being equal, that you'd want blood with COVID-19 antibodies in it. But some people are apparently more worried about getting vaccine "components" mixed in with their pure alpha-man blood than dying on an operating table. And according to Dr. Michael Busch, director of the Vitalant Research Institute, approximately 90% of the blood available for transfusions currently has COVID-19 antibodies in it, either because donors were vaccinated or they previously had COVID-19.

As a result, these requests are impossible to honor. But that hasn't stopped people from pressing their concerns.

Many patients expressing concerns have been influenced by rampant misinformation about vaccines and the blood supply, said [Dr. Geeta] Paranjape, [medical director at Carter BloodCare]. "A lot of people think there's some kind of microchip or they're going to be cloned," she said. Other patients have balked at getting blood from people previously infected with COVID, even though federal guidance greenlights donations two weeks after a positive test or the last symptom fades.
They're afraid they're going to be cloned? Cloned?

Are we sure that's not already happening? It seems to me there are lots of people in this country who were clearly gestated in bathtubs full of homemade gin. And they're afraid of the vaccine because they think it has computer chips in it.

I can't even with these people. It may be too late to reach many of them, but here's an idea: Can we at least make sure we teach our kids what science is? Because most Americans' knowledge of the subject appears to have been drawn from Spider-Man movies.

That's all I ask. Until then, Darwin will be tucking into hot, steamy Jiffy Pop on his tricked-out La-Z-Boy for the foreseeable future.
https://www.alternet.org/2021/08/vaccine-2654758800/

Just another way to cull the herd.
Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored.-Huxley
"We can have democracy in this country, or we can have great wealth concentrated in the hands of a few, but we can't have both." ~ Louis Brandeis,

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Like a broken clock these two were correct twice, once each.
Former President Donald Trump was booed at a rally Saturday in Alabama after he told supporters they should get vaccinated.

"And you know what? I believe totally in your freedoms. I do. You've got to do what you have to do," Trump said. "But I recommend take the vaccines. I did it. It's good. Take the vaccines."

Some boos rang out from the crowd, who were largely maskless.

"No, that's OK. That's all right. You got your freedoms," Trump said, echoing rhetoric from opponents of mask and vaccination mandates. "But I happened to take the vaccine. If it doesn't work, you'll be the first to know. OK? I'll call up Alabama, I'll say, hey, you know what? But [the vaccine] is working. But you do have your freedoms you have to keep. You have to maintain that."
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald ... d-n1277404

TFG was correct in telling the hoard of idiots they should get vaccinated. So he has been correct once in his life.

Now the other one Alex Jones was also correct when he said, "But, my god, maybe you're not that bright — maybe Trump's actually a dumbass,"
The Sandy Hook shooting denier made the colorful comments during a segment of an episode of Infowars on Sunday. Jones was condemning the former president for encouraging attendees at his Alabama rally over the weekend to get vaccinated — an honorable initiative, for once, by Trump.
https://www.rawstory.com/alex-jones-tur ... at-bright/

Alex made a correct statement for once in his life, when he call TFG a Dumbass. So that is the two truths. But with Alex he spoils it by still supporting the Anti-vaxxers.

In Alex's case it was the pot calling the kettle a dumbass.
Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored.-Huxley
"We can have democracy in this country, or we can have great wealth concentrated in the hands of a few, but we can't have both." ~ Louis Brandeis,

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