Trump's Second Impeachment

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The House is supposed to vote on the one article of impeachment tomorrow. This is the text of the single article unless it gets amended or further articles are added.
https://assets.documentcloud.org/docume ... -Trump.pdf
Senator Mitch McConnell, the Republican leader, has told associates that he believes President Trump committed impeachable offenses and that he is pleased that Democrats are moving to impeach him, believing that it will make it easier to purge him from the party, according to people familiar with his thinking. The House is voting on Wednesday to formally charge Mr. Trump with inciting violence against the country.

At the same time, Representative Kevin McCarthy of California, the minority leader and one of Mr. Trump’s most steadfast allies in Congress, has asked other Republicans whether he should call on Mr. Trump to resign in the aftermath of the riot at the Capitol last week, according to three Republican officials briefed on the conversations.

While Mr. McCarthy has said he is personally opposed to impeachment, he and other party leaders have decided not to formally lobby Republicans to vote “no,” and an aide to Mr. McCarthy said he was open to a measure censuring Mr. Trump for his conduct. In private, Mr. McCarthy reached out to a leading House Democrat to see if the chamber would be willing to pursue a censure vote, though Speaker Nancy Pelosi has ruled it out.

Taken together, the stances of Congress’s two top Republicans — neither of whom has said publicly that Mr. Trump should resign or be impeached — reflected the politically fraught and fast-moving nature of the crisis that the party faces in the wake of last week’s assault by a pro-Trump mob during a session to formalize President-elect Joseph R. Biden Jr.’s electoral victory.
Yet as they attempted to balance the affection their core voters have for Mr. Trump with the now-undeniable political and constitutional threat he posed, Republican congressional leaders who have loyally backed the president for four years were still stepping delicately. Their refusal to demand the president’s resignation and quiet plotting about how to address his conduct highlighted the gnawing uncertainty that they and many other Republicans have about whether they would pay more of a political price for abandoning him or for continuing to enable him after he incited a mob to storm the seat of government.

Making their task more difficult, Mr. Trump has shown no trace of contrition, telling reporters on Tuesday that his remarks to supporters had been “totally appropriate,” and that it was the specter of his impeachment that was “causing tremendous anger.”

Mr. McConnell, Republican of Kentucky, has indicated that he wants to see the specific article of impeachment that the House is set to approve on Wednesday, which is expected to draw support from as many as a dozen Republicans, potentially including Representative Liz Cheney of Wyoming, the party’s No. 3 in the House. But he has made clear in private discussions that he believes now is the moment to move on from the weakened lame duck, whom he blames for causing Republicans to lose the Senate.
On Monday, Mr. Biden telephoned Mr. McConnell to ask whether it was possible to set up a dual track that would allow the Senate to confirm Mr. Biden’s cabinet nominees and hold a Senate trial at the same time, according to officials briefed on the conversation who disclosed it on condition of anonymity. Far from avoiding the topic of impeaching Mr. Trump, Mr. McConnell said it was a question for the Senate parliamentarian, and promised Mr. Biden a quick answer.
Representative John Katko of New York on Tuesday became the first House Republican to commit to voting to impeach President Trump, saying that he could not look past the president’s role in whipping up a mob that attacked the Capitol last week.

“To allow the president of the United States to incite this attack without consequence is a direct threat to the future of our democracy,” Mr. Katko said in a statement to Syracuse.com. “For that reason, I cannot sit by without taking action. I will vote to impeach this president.”
Representative Liz Cheney of Wyoming, the No. 3 House Republican who was considering backing the impeachment charge against Mr. Trump, privately told colleagues on a call on Monday that the matter was a “vote of conscience.” Ms. Cheney, the scion of a storied Republican family, was also privately counseling fellow Republicans on how to navigate a vote that could shape their careers.

Among the other House Republicans who were said to be considering voting to impeach were stalwart moderates from swing districts, like Representatives Fred Upton of Michigan and Jaime Herrera Beutler of Washington, as well as newly seated freshmen, like Peter Meijer of Michigan. Representative Adam Kinzinger of Illinois has strongly implied that he, too, would vote to impeach, but he has yet to finalize his stance given strategic concerns that impeachment could backfire and rally Mr. Trump’s supporters more closely around him.
https://www.nytimes.com/live/2021/01/12 ... -amendment
"Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but not their own facts." - Daniel Patrick Moynihan

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Turd is self destructing - something no one has ever been able to do to him. Let us hope it is complete and he is no Phoenix.
"Being Republican is more than a difference of opinion - it's a character flaw." "COVID can fix STUPID!"
The greatest, most aggrieved mistake EVER made in USA was electing DJT as POTUS.

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Wino wrote: Wed Jan 13, 2021 7:15 am Turd is self destructing - something no one has ever been able to do to him. Let us hope it is complete and he is no Phoenix.
Yup, Teflon Don has come to the end of the road. If he shot someone on 5th Ave he wouldn't walk away like he boasts, he'd get lynched.
"Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but not their own facts." - Daniel Patrick Moynihan

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featureless wrote: Wed Jan 13, 2021 9:14 am Here's hoping for some sanity out of some of the Republicans today.
Fingers crossed. I figure if Liz Cheney can do it from very conservative Wyoming, other Republicans should be able to do it. And her dad Dick Cheney was one of the former defense secretaries who signed the declaration stating the election was over and the military should have no role in the election dispute.
"Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but not their own facts." - Daniel Patrick Moynihan

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Anyone watching this shit live??? It's like flipping channels between reality and an alternate universe.
"Being Republican is more than a difference of opinion - it's a character flaw." "COVID can fix STUPID!"
The greatest, most aggrieved mistake EVER made in USA was electing DJT as POTUS.

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The right wing snowflakes are whining about metal detectors on the house floor entrances for members. There are at least 147 I wouldn't want carrying a gun on the house floor, much less anywhere else.
"Being Republican is more than a difference of opinion - it's a character flaw." "COVID can fix STUPID!"
The greatest, most aggrieved mistake EVER made in USA was electing DJT as POTUS.

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I had to quit watching to keep from throwing up or damaging my TV.

I did find away to avoid most right wingers. Two TV's - one real time, one delayed time. I could switch between the two so missed much the BS from the wingers. Not enough to not be sickened so quit.
"Being Republican is more than a difference of opinion - it's a character flaw." "COVID can fix STUPID!"
The greatest, most aggrieved mistake EVER made in USA was electing DJT as POTUS.

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I have it turned down, Republicans act like hell, fire and brimstone preachers. Kevin McCarthy the Rep leader tried to be conciliatory, Matt Goetz and Louie Gohmert were usual slime bags. They're looking at what their constituents and Trump supporters will say about them. Looks like 6 Republicans will vote for impeachment may be more.
"Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but not their own facts." - Daniel Patrick Moynihan

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The rights call for unity ring as hollow as Turds no violence/riots. Sorry aholes, that paste is out of the tube.
"Being Republican is more than a difference of opinion - it's a character flaw." "COVID can fix STUPID!"
The greatest, most aggrieved mistake EVER made in USA was electing DJT as POTUS.

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Watching the vote go beyond half the representatives, I am realizing for the first time how evenly split Dems and Republicans are now in the House...
"It is better to be violent, if there is violence in our hearts, than to put on the cloak of non-violence to cover impotence. There is hope for a violent man to become non-violent. There is no such hope for the impotent." -Gandhi

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NBC saying that 10 Republicans will vote for impeachment. The vote will be open quite awhile and votes could change. The senate is in recess until January 19th. If the senate trial, conviction and a possible lifetime ban comes after Biden is inaugurated, that opens up potential legal challenges by Trump if the Senate gives him a lifetime ban on holding political office. We'll have to see how this plays out, we're not done with Donna Drama yet.
"Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but not their own facts." - Daniel Patrick Moynihan

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I’d be glad to have zero Dem defections while gaining a “bipartisan impeachment” resolution with 10 Republicans voting yes. Let’s hear that gavel and send the docs over to the Senate!
"It is better to be violent, if there is violence in our hearts, than to put on the cloak of non-violence to cover impotence. There is hope for a violent man to become non-violent. There is no such hope for the impotent." -Gandhi

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