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senorgrand wrote: Tue Jul 28, 2020 11:01 pm Sidewalks aren't federal property...
Minor detail...

Of course the courts will chastise the goon squad for behaving badly. The remedy will be that they stop behaving badly. Not that such will heal the injuries suffered at the hands of the goons, and qualified immunity will prevent any other punitive measures.

Even now word is that Katie and Donny are playing nice, each having milked the pain and suffering of George Floyd for about all they can...
https://www.kgw.com/article/news/local/ ... d8f0e3f992

And just as it was in 2008, when everyone just knew that Barack would leave no stone unturned in an effort to hold accountable those who had destroyed our economy and taken us to war for personal political and financial gain...while pursuing universal single payer healthcare for all...like he promised!

It will all conveniently be the "next order of business" just as soon as they work out the next round of stress related pay raises for themselves and the tireless defenders of public buildings.

And that's if the democrats prevail in November.
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This is happening in New York, also. People are being grabbed off the street and no one knows where they're taken.

https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout ... one_knows/

on edit, the new nickname fatnixon

second edit
Portland issues ‘maximum fine’ on feds for unpermitted fence outside courthouse; bill is $192,000 ‘and counting'
--snp--
“We intend to collect,” Eudaly, who is running for reelection, said in a tweeted statement. She also described the forces at the courthouse as “federal occupiers.”
https://www.oregonlive.com/politics/202 ... nting.html

Hehe.

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From the earliest days of the recent protests against police brutality and racism, some top federal law enforcement officials viewed the demonstrators with alarm and called for an aggressive federal response that two months later continues to escalate.

A memo from the deputy director of the F.B.I., dated June 2, demanded an immediate mobilization as protests gathered after George Floyd’s death while he was in police custody a week earlier. David L. Bowdich, the F.B.I.’s No. 2, declared the situation “a national crisis,” and wrote that in addition to investigating “violent protesters, instigators” and “inciters,” bureau leaders should collect information with “robust social media exploitation teams” and examine what appeared to be “highly organized behavior.”

Mr. Bowdich suggested that the bureau could make use of the Hobbs Act, put into place in the 1940s to punish racketeering in labor groups, to charge the protesters.
On Tuesday, Attorney General William P. Barr took the same tone, saying strife in Portland, Ore., was not a protest at all, but “an assault on the government of the United States.”

“Remarkably, the response from many in the media and local elected offices to this organized assault has been to blame the federal government,” Mr. Barr told the House Judiciary Committee. “To state what should be obvious, peaceful protesters do not throw explosives into federal courthouses.”

Privately, domestic intelligence agents are uncertain about the root causes of those actions. Another internal government memo, from Department of Homeland Security intelligence officers, indicated that even as federal agents in camouflage deployed to quell the unrest in Portland, the administration had little understanding of what it was facing.
The memo tried to put the recent conflict into historical context, describing how “anarchist extremists” have committed crimes in the Pacific Northwest for years and asserting that “sustained violence against government personnel and facilities” had longstanding roots.

But even as it laid out a timeline of violence extending back to 2015, the intelligence briefing, dated July 16, admitted, “We have low confidence in our assessment” when it comes to the present day. “We lack insight into the motives for the most recent attacks,” it read.
At the end of May, as protests against police brutality and racism sprang up across the country, Mr. Trump decided the unrest was the work of “antifa,” a leaderless coalition of people who oppose fascism but have at times used vandalism and violence to make their points.

Since then, federal prosecutors have brought charges against demonstrators across the country for crimes that would typically be handled locally. In Delaware and Alabama, prosecutors brought charges against people who each smashed the window of a police car. In Ohio, prosecutors charged someone for burning a parking-attendant booth.
Federal law enforcement has a duty to investigate the organizing of crimes across state lines, said John McKay, a former U.S. attorney appointed under President George W. Bush. Federal crimes around banks or guns are also common targets. But, he said, a broken window or robberies would typically be left to the local authorities. “The feds shouldn’t come in unless there is a clear indication of federal crime and a federal interest,” he said.
But outside the administration, a consensus is emerging: The deployment of the federal agents is perpetuating the unrest. “They’ve become the story,” John Sandweg, a former acting general counsel for the Department of Homeland Security, said of the federal deployments. “The protests are feeding off their presence.”
In the July 16 intelligence briefing memo, the department [DHS] concluded the “sustained violence against government personnel and facilities in Portland, Ore., since May reflects the enduring threat environment in the region since at least 2015.” The memo included a timeline of violent episodes in Seattle and Olympia, Wash., as well as in Portland. (The timeline specified two episodes involving “white supremacist extremists.”)
But the memo, prepared by the Counterterrorism Mission Center, also admitted that “we have low confidence in our assessment that sustained violence against government personnel and facilities in Portland, Ore., since May reflects the enduring threat environment in the region because we lack insight into the motives for the most recent attacks.” The agency may have been raising questions about the accuracy of its findings, but its leaders have shown no such qualms. Last week, Chad F. Wolf, the acting secretary of homeland security, referred to protests in Portland in 2018 that prompted the department to temporarily shut down a detention center run by its Immigration Customs Enforcement. “There’s a little bit of a pattern here that obviously I’m concerned about,” Mr. Wolf said.
Department officials have said the training the teams received to handle crowds of migrants at the border and riots in detention facilities has prepared them for Portland.

Chuck Wexler, the director of the Police Executive Research Forum, said federal officials could be engaging in a dialogue with activist leaders and local politicians during the day to calm tensions ahead of nighttime protests. The opposite is occurring. “I don’t know who’s benefiting from this,” Mr. Wexler said.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/28/us/f ... tests.html
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featureless wrote: Wed Jul 29, 2020 12:11 pm Dystopia, we have arrived.
A totalitarian dystopia is neither fascist nor communist. It is simply the whims of one person or small group. In 1935 Leni Riefenstahl made a propaganda film called Triumph Of The Will about the Nazi takeover of Germany. It simply expresses the will of the leader to control every aspect of the lives of the inhabitants of the totalitarian state. Of course Stalin commissioned no such kind of propaganda. He wasn't a megalomaniac like Hitler or trump. Stalin was just a totalitarian monster. Regardless, when the whims of one person or a small group control the everyday lives of the inhabitants you have a dystopia.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triumph_of_the_Will

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And now it makes sense...
Yes, the feds and the city and the state have apparently come to terms...

https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/29/politics ... index.html

But "the why" was a bit elusive. Finally figured it out.
Temperatures hit the 100's two days in a row this week. It's hot wear'n all that shit. The feds got uncomfortable.
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So under the agreement the state police will protect the exterior of the federal courthouse and the Federal Protective Service which is mostly contractors/renta-cops will protect the interior. Apparently Pence was part of the discussions, but Trump could still derail it.
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Plainsclothes NYPD apparently snatched a black transwoman off the street in full daylight and tossed her in a minivan. No indication from the video that they identified themselves or read her her rights. Took a team of uniformed bicycle police swooping in to shield them from a crowd full of bystanders.

https://jalopnik.com/throwing-women-int ... 1844544397

Someone is going to get killed. They're going to grab someone carrying legally - not in NYC, but somewhere - and an officer is going to get shot before they've bothered to identify themselves. Or a bystander will draw before the bikes roll up. Then the police will start shooting back, and we'll have a goddamn massacre.

The police apologists keep talking about "an assault on police." If that was for real, they'd have a lot more to worry about.

It is an attack on America, but not from BLM or Antifa.

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