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Well how good are the test?
HHS chief overrode FDA officials to ease testing rules

Alex Azar took matters into his own hands, overriding objections from FDA chief Stephen Hahn.

Pressed on the matter during a private briefing of the House Energy and Commerce Committee on Aug. 31, Hahn told lawmakers that HHS’ legal division was responsible for the decision, a source familiar with his comments said.

The FDA’s own website, meanwhile, still insists that it has the power to regulate all manner of lab-developed coronavirus tests. “Please note that LDTs should not be used for clinical diagnoses without FDA’s approval, clearance or authorization during an emergency declaration for that disease,” the site reads.

For its part, HHS has offered limited public health rationale for sidelining the FDA at a pivotal moment in the response, as test production ramps up and the U.S. heads into a fall season that could bring a resurgence of both the coronavirus and the seasonal flu.

Supporters of the decision contend that the more lax approach could help speed newer, more innovative tests onto the market by allowing manufacturers to bypass the potentially cumbersome FDA review process.

And inside the administration, top HHS officials led by General Counsel Bob Charrow argued for months that the FDA lacked the legal authority required to regulate this particular slice of the testing market, which includes labs located in larger academic medical centers and smaller commercial laboratories, as well as a handful of large corporations.

That echoes a position long held by some clinical laboratories subject to the agency's regulation. Yet it encountered fierce resistance from FDA attorneys who maintained that the agency had long established its jurisdiction over lab-developed tests during prior public health emergencies like the H1N1 pandemic and Zika outbreak.

As the internal dispute mushroomed, some White House lawyers also expressed skepticism of the immediate need to pare back the FDA’s oversight activities, two people with knowledge of the situation said.

Azar nevertheless pressed ahead, a decision several officials said had soured relations with top FDA officials and career staff while accomplishing little measurable progress in the fight to contain the pandemic.

Indeed, the nation faced major testing access issues in February and March in part because there was no clear FDA pathway for emergency use of lab tests, said former FDA Commissioner Mark McClellan, who has advised HHS on testing strategy.

But "since then, I think they have kind of got it right, or at least made real progress," he said.

"There's no issue with LDTs or frankly any test getting quickly through the FDA right now," a Republican close to the administration added. Going to war with its own agency in the middle of a crisis, on the other hand, ranks "right up there with the dumbest things ever."
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2638 cases (+46) / 146 in isolation / 2461 recovered / 11 hospitalized / 31 deaths (+3) / 559 daily tests, in Butte County, Calif, pop 217,761.

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My town is starting to creep up again. 566 total cases and 72 deaths. Now definitely past the 550 and 70 marks. Our first 2 cases were in mid-March and by the following week all the kids were in remote schooling for 2 weeks, which eventually became the rest of the school year.

They had hoped to partially open the schools but so many staff were requesting leave--having their own kids in remote learning or being older or possibly exposing older people--that the system had to go full remote. The district couldn't replace them either, for the same reason. For us it's not bad, but for other families it's very tough. I'm retired, my wife hasn't traveled since early March and our teen is ok with it...especially after his older brother pointed out that his parents, being in their 60's, are THE high-risk category.
Overall, NJ is seeing a slow ratcheting up of daily cases. It's been 10 days since we had a day with LESS than 300 new cases and had 469 yesterday. People are weary since we got SLAMMED back in mid-March--6 solid months--and people are getting careless, especially the kids. I saw a whole cluster of maybe 10 kids on bikes all together without masks...and bicyclists leave a lot more potentially infected air than just ordinary respiration

Our town's cases are slowly ratcheting up, too. now at 567 cases and back down to 70 deaths...counts are adjusted for who really is a resident...but the lower threshold is now much higher than it was. 565 cases and 70 deaths seems to be the lower limit (that's just a WAG on my part--not a hard #).

Worldometer has the USA having exceeded 200,000 deaths now, and winter is coming. Our summer seems to be essentially over here--this morning it was 44°. People will be indoors more, and cold and flu season will make it tougher. The ONLY bright side is the vague hope that since many cold viruses are coronaviruses, it MAY (and that's a big "may") convey SOME resistance to the novel coronavirus.
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Our town's cases are slowly ratcheting up, too. now at 567 cases and back down to 70 deaths...counts are adjusted for who really is a resident...but the lower threshold is now much higher than it was. 565 cases and 70 deaths seems to be the lower limit (that's just a WAG on my part--not a hard #).

Worldometer has the USA having exceeded 200,000 deaths now, and winter is coming. Our summer seems to be essentially over here--this morning it was 44°. People will be indoors more, and cold and flu season will make it tougher. The ONLY bright side is the vague hope that since many cold viruses are coronaviruses, it MAY (and that's a big "may") convey SOME resistance to the novel coronavirus.
Peaks and valleys in terms of new cases seems to be the pattern for the foreseeable future. I really understand teachers and staff not wanting to go back to face to face instruction, as they are the most vulnerable and they have families.

Schools are shuddered in my county, I don't see them opening this school year. We're in the valley, the daily new cases are very low but the deaths keep increasing. Even with a vaccine with 70% protection, masks and physical distancing will still be needed as no vaccine is 100% effective. I fear for the US and worlds economies.
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2655 cases (+17) / 150 in isolation / 2461 recovered / 10 hospitalized / 33 deaths (+2) / 442 daily tests, in Butte County, Calif, pop 217,759.


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highdesert wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 9:47 am
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Our town's cases are slowly ratcheting up, too. now at 567 cases and back down to 70 deaths...counts are adjusted for who really is a resident...but the lower threshold is now much higher than it was. 565 cases and 70 deaths seems to be the lower limit (that's just a WAG on my part--not a hard #).

Worldometer has the USA having exceeded 200,000 deaths now, and winter is coming. Our summer seems to be essentially over here--this morning it was 44°. People will be indoors more, and cold and flu season will make it tougher. The ONLY bright side is the vague hope that since many cold viruses are coronaviruses, it MAY (and that's a big "may") convey SOME resistance to the novel coronavirus.
Peaks and valleys in terms of new cases seems to be the pattern for the foreseeable future. I really understand teachers and staff not wanting to go back to face to face instruction, as they are the most vulnerable and they have families.

Schools are shuddered in my county, I don't see them opening this school year. We're in the valley, the daily new cases are very low but the deaths keep increasing. Even with a vaccine with 70% protection, masks and physical distancing will still be needed as no vaccine is 100% effective. I fear for the US and worlds economies.
Ratcheting...the peaks are higher, the valleys are higher.
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Number tested positive going back up. Twenty more deaths today. We are now at 183+ per 100,000 population. That puts Hidalgo County above even New Jersey.

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North Dakota, South Dakota, and Nebraska all have some of the worst increases in rates of transmission (ND and SD are #1 and #2) so the murderous White House told them to END and discourage mask use.
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2674 cases (+19) / 158 in isolation / 2483 recovered / 10 hospitalized / 33 deaths (+0) / 444 daily tests, in Butte County, Calif, pop 217,759.

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it's a pandemic and many people are not following protocols. i see them in the grocery store or lowes every day. despite donny's best effort to suppress reporting, the number of cases and deaths will increase. it's just the way pandemics work.

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I don't often see criminal justice news out of Indonesia that I can support, but there are exceptions

https://www.ibtimes.sg/indonesia-forces ... ment-51560
Speaking to Tribune News, Cerme district head Suyono, said that he punished the eight persons who did not wear face masks by making them dig graves at a public cemetery in Ngabetan village.

"There are only three available gravediggers at the moment, so I thought I might as well put these people to work with them," Suyono told the outlet. He added that the local authorities, overseeing the grave digging, ensured that the health protocols were not violated during the burial process.

The gravediggers were also not allowed to participate in the burials of COVID-19 victims. Two defaulters were assigned to each grave digger at the burial site. While one was tasked with digging the grave, the other laid wooden boards inside the hole to support the corpse, the outlet reported

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Number tested positive going back up. Twenty more deaths today. We are now at 183+ per 100,000 population. That puts Hidalgo County above even New Jersey.

All Quiet on the Governor Front. He is appointing some locals to pretty much title but no authority positions like Nursing Facility Administrators Advisory Committee. Of course it is only folk with vested interests in the businesses.
I missed Guv's news conference. Was hoping he was going to endorse Biden. LOL

Seems he wants to spread CV19, rather than control. Sigh. Although RGV has been spared the new rules. I wonder why?? LOL I suspect he wants rest of the state to catch up.

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The us quietly passed the 200,000 death mark yesterday, September 17, 2020.

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2688 cases (+14) / 121 in isolation / 2532 recovered / 13 hospitalized / 35 deaths (+2) / 620 daily tests, in Butte County, Calif, pop 217,757.

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Wino wrote:
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sig230 wrote:
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Number tested positive going back up. Twenty more deaths today. We are now at 183+ per 100,000 population. That puts Hidalgo County above even New Jersey.

All Quiet on the Governor Front. He is appointing some locals to pretty much title but no authority positions like Nursing Facility Administrators Advisory Committee. Of course it is only folk with vested interests in the businesses.
I missed Guv's news conference. Was hoping he was going to endorse Biden. LOL

Seems he wants to spread CV19, rather than control. Sigh. Although RGV has been spared the new rules. I wonder why?? LOL I suspect he wants rest of the state to catch up.

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They will need Abbotts support. Yesterday we passed 188 deaths per 100,000 population.
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In my county the data on new cases is still days behind and it's showing less than 100 new cases. County officials are desperate to open up more, hope that's not tainting the data. On 9/13 the total number of deaths was 814 and case fatality rate was 1.6%, the county is now reporting 908 deaths which is an increase of 94 deaths and the CFR is 1.7%. Daily cases might be down, but people are still dying.
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Texas is now 1,000 deaths fewer than NJ, having doubled in deaths since Aug 1. By the end of September it will almost certainly move into 2nd place behind NY on deaths, behind the "brilliant" leadership of yet another GOP moron governor, Greg Abbott. California is about 1200 deaths behind NJ, but could well pass us in October.

Meanwhile, North Carolina is rapidly moving in position to knock us down a level in total cases as it picks up 2x to 4x more new cases every day than NJ, and is just over 10,000 cases behind.

As a nation we will almost certainly reach 7 million cases and 204,000 deaths today, tomorrow at the latest. Trump wants 70% of America infected to get to herd immunity--so far we are at 2.1%-->67.9% to go, or 231.7 million infected. If only 1.3% die--that's 3 million people. If 3% die, that's nearly 7 million.

Imagine: 7 million Americans have to die to save Trump's worthless, miserable, totally criminal and degenerate hide. And people CHEER this murderous incompetent monster.

Correction: We have passed 204,000 deaths today.
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And we passed 7 million cases today as well as 204,000 deaths. And people are STILL going to vote for the orange catastrophe? "Suicide is painless. It brings on many changes."
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House next to me just put out two Trump Pence signs. I had a Biden sign but it has gone missing.
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And we passed 7 million cases today as well as 204,000 deaths. And people are STILL going to vote for the orange catastrophe? "Suicide is painless. It brings on many changes."
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LA County is seeing an uptick in cases and deaths. CA will surpass NJ, it will just take awhile.
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Expert blasts Trump administration hiding virus is airborne at far more than 6 feet

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention on Friday quietly changed its coronavirus official guidance to note that coronavirus droplets, or “aerosols,” can stay in the air far longer than previously thought and across far more than just six feet.

“There is growing evidence that droplets and airborne particles can remain suspended in the air and be breathed in by others, and travel distances beyond 6 feet (for example, during choir practice, in restaurants, or in fitness classes).”

This would be a revelation to many, who have relied on CDC guidance urging people to social distance, which it has consistently defined as staying six feet apart.

Harvard Medical School and Brigham and Women’s Hospital physician Abraar Karan, who is working on Massachusetts’ COVID-19 respoinse, calls the CDC update “a significant shift.”

But the CDC also effectively loosened its guidance, suggestion to stay “at least 6 feet away from others, whenever possible.”

Under the “Protect yourself and others” section, the previous version, up until sometime on Friday, read: “Maintain good social distance (about 6 feet). This is very important in preventing the spread of COVID-19.”

Now it states:

Stay at least 6 feet away from others, whenever possible. This is very important in preventing the spread of COVID-19.

Joe Lockhart, a CNN political analyst and former Clinton White House press secretary, took to Twitter to blast the administration.

“Actually seven months after @realDonaldTrump told Bob Woodward,” about just how deadly coronavirus is, and that it spread through the air, he wrote. “This is criminal and people need to go to prison for this.”

To be clear, President Trump knew.

“This is deadly stuff,” he told the Washington Post’s Bob Woodward, on tape. “You just breathe the air, and that’s how it’s passed.”
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/09/people ... an-6-feet/
For months, scientists and public health experts have warned of mounting evidence that the novel coronavirus is airborne, transmitted through tiny droplets called aerosols that linger in the air much longer than the larger globs that come from coughing or sneezing.

Now, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention agrees. The CDC recently changed its official guidance to note that aerosols are “thought to be the main way the virus spreads” and to warn that poorly ventilated indoor spaces are particularly dangerous.

“There is growing evidence that droplets and airborne particles can remain suspended in the air and be breathed in by others, and travel distances beyond 6 feet (for example, during choir practice, in restaurants, or in fitness classes),” the agency stated. “In general, indoor environments without good ventilation increase this risk.”

The fitness industry is trying to lure gym members back — but experts say it’s using flawed data

While the CDC has not called for any new action to address the airborne threat of a virus that has now killed nearly 200,000 Americans, experts said the change should help to shift policy and public behavior.
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Well isn’t this amazing.
CDC Reverses Guidelines Stating The Coronavirus Is Airborne Virus [UPDATE]

UPDATE: 12:40 p.m. — The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has reversed an update made to its coronavirus guidance that stated COVID-19 is an airborne virus. The health agency said that update, posted to its website on Friday, was made in error.

“A draft version of proposed changes to these recommendations was posted in error to the agency’s official website,” the CDC said in a statement posted to its website on Monday. “CDC is currently updating its recommendations regarding airborne transmission of SARS-CoV-2 (the virus that causes COVID-19). Once this process has been completed, the update language will be posted.”
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Yeah, it's fucking disgusting what the administration and CDC are doing. That said, anybody that has been paying attention should have a pretty good idea that this stuff is airborne (even if it doesn't meet the technical definitions).

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HHS secretary says all ‘Warp Speed’ vaccines will have ‘liability protection’ from lawsuits

Pharmaceutical companies that produce COVID-19 vaccines through the federal government’s “Warp Speed” program will automatically have liability protection, Health and Human Services (HHS) Secretary Alex Azar said on Monday.

Azar was asked about the progress of COVID-19 vaccine trials during an interview with Fox Business host Stuart Varney.

“We now have three vaccines in phase three clinical trials here in the United States, which is just unprecedented — the speed that we have been able to go given President Trump’s support of Operation Warp Speed,” Azar explained. “These are some of the largest clinical trials of vaccines in history.”

“We believe by the end of the year that it’s highly credible that we will have in the tens of millions of doses of FDA gold standard vaccine,” he continued. “We literally have made millions of doses of vaccine already thanks to Warp Speed.”

According to Azar, it will be up to states to decide whether vaccines are mandatory.

“Those would be local determinations,” he pointed out. “Right now my focus is let’s get FDA gold standard approved vaccine out there for the American people. Let’s get it out in quantities so we can especially get it to the most vulnerable and those most in need of it.”

Before ending the interview, Varney wondered if pharmaceutical companies would be shielded from lawsuits.

“Under the PREP Act, which is a provision in Congress, any treatment or vaccine for purposes of a national emergency pandemic like this actually comes with liability protection,” Azar explained. “Both the product as well as those who administer it or provide it.”
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/09/hhs-se ... -lawsuits/

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This is how you get zombies.

Oh, and production won't allow global vaccination until 2023 or so. 7.x billion is a lot of doses, even if a) it works and b) it provides long-term immunity. What could go wrong?

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