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do it right, grind out the lug and blend in the end of the stock. easy for me to say, you're doing the work. i'd probably just do a carbine-style barrel band and call it good.

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How much is a stock?
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I think it depends on what you are going for. If its more of a scout rifle I'd say put the band on and depending on the length of the barrel chop it short(16-17) inches maybe even shorten the stock some.

If it's meant more in line with just converting the mauser to 45 and you want it to have that length to it then the bayonet lug will probably need to be ground down. I dont think you need to invest in another stock but that's up to you.

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Marlene wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 10:18 am
How much is a stock?
VZ24 stocks are the cheapest at $85
K98 Stocks are around $140-$160

I couldn't find a Turk mauser stock which would also fit.

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lurker wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 5:17 am
do it right, grind out the lug and blend in the end of the stock. easy for me to say, you're doing the work. i'd probably just do a carbine-style barrel band and call it good.

Grinding the lug down feel like the bubba way to me, the single barrel band is probably the easiest but I feel like it looses a bit of the K98 look when you go that route.

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If the bayonet mount fits the thinnest part of the barrel, is it then too close to the muzzle to properly mount a bayonet? If so, do whatever you want cause it’s just window dressing if it’s there at all. If it’s possible to mount the bayonet, then do it right because bayonets are cool.

If the mount needs to be machined to fit the barrel step, you can send it to me and I’ll throw it on the mill.
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But if there’s a way to do it without stepping the bayonet mount, and have it work that requires a new stock, I think it’s worth a stock.
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I did some quick googling while the new CEO was babbling about how rich he was and it looks to me like the bayonet on K98's doesn't use the barrel as a mounting point (I based my plans on how the small ring mausers mount bayonets, oops) the setback of the lug from the barrel end is there so that the handle isn't directly under the muzzle. That would mean that you could probably mount a bayonet with less of a setback but you wouldn't be able to shoot it without messing up the handle of your bayonet.

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I'll take some pictures of how the step interacts with the lug.

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Two thoughts.
1) Can you reattach the piece you lopped off and use dowels and glue to make it work?
2) Please don't grind out the bayo lug. Since this is for a club giveaway anyway, we'll pay for a new stock.
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shinzen wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 12:00 pm
Two thoughts.
1) Can you reattach the piece you lopped off and use dowels and glue to make it work?
2) Please don't grind out the bayo lug. Since this is for a club giveaway anyway, we'll pay for a new stock.
I could reattach the cut piece but it wouldn't match the taper of the stock because I had to reshape (new) front of the stock to match the contour of the inside of the lug.

I'd rather go sporter than grind it with a dremel, if Marlene can mill out a nice cut I think that would be a nice look. If nobody actually cares about how the bayonet positions then I'd rather just go at it with a new stock.

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Here's what we're looking at.

The step is ~.775" down to ~.65"
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wwmd?
What Would Mauser Do?

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lurker wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 1:29 pm
wwmd?
What Would Mauser Do?
Turn down the barrel a bit so that the lug worked with the barrel. Sadly I don't have the equipment that Paul had at Oberndorf.

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Oh, there is enough metal to get away with some milling it appears. From the first photo it looked like there might not be towards the back, and I was afraid that would make it look worse.
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I think I still lean towards new stock.
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Marlene wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 9:20 pm
I think I still lean towards new stock.
I think this is realistically the best bet. I double checked and a VZ.24 stock should fit the 98 action without much effort so the cheaper stock is an option. I think the milling would be interesting but I think it would be hard to make look perfect without sending the barrel and stock along with the lug.

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Marlene wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 9:20 pm
I think I still lean towards new stock.
I vote for new stock too. And will throw in $10 if needed.
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Numrich had a Vz.24 stock set for $59, picked that up and a new rear sight assembly (the Vz.24 sight and hand guard is different than the K98). The email indicated it may take 6 weeks for delivery, thanks for the heads up BEFORE I ordered numrich.

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offensivename wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 9:52 pm
Marlene wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 9:20 pm
I think I still lean towards new stock.
I think this is realistically the best bet. I double checked and a VZ.24 stock should fit the 98 action without much effort so the cheaper stock is an option. I think the milling would be interesting but I think it would be hard to make look perfect without sending the barrel and stock along with the lug.
Order the stock. Send me a message with the receipt and I'll get you reimbursed.
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