Because ATF inspections are not enough.
Healey administration begins training police in how to inspect gun dealers amid concern laws aren’t being enforced
Re: Democratic Massachusetts Governor Healey's Administration to train police to inspect FFLs
2GOAL's resource page on this. GOAL is Massachusetts' milquetoast firearm ownership advocacy group.
https://goal.org/Retailer-Inspections
https://goal.org/Retailer-Inspections
Re: Democratic Massachusetts Governor Healey's Administration to train police to inspect FFLs
3Maybe because ATF inspections aren't enough.DispositionMatrix wrote: Fri Feb 17, 2023 1:28 pm Because ATF inspections are not enough.
Healey administration begins training police in how to inspect gun dealers amid concern laws aren’t being enforced
Historically, most FFLs are inspected every 3–5 years, with the ATF prohibited by law from inspecting a firearms business more than once every 12 months (except in limited circumstances).
PlusAs a federal firearms licensee, you're bound to get audited by the ATF at some point. The Gun Control Act permits inspections that are at least twelve months apart, but truthfully, they only happen every few years. The goal of the audit is more benign than most expect.
The deputy director of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives broke with the White House on Wednesday over the administration’s 2020 budget proposal, saying it would further hollow out an agency already straining for resources.
Thomas Brandon told lawmakers on Capitol Hill that under Trump’s latest budget proposal, his agency would lose 377 positions to attrition.
“You hear people say, ‘trim the fat.’ Then we trimmed into muscle and now we’re trimming into bone,” Mr. Brandon testified to a House Appropriations subcommittee. “ATF won’t be able to do what it can do today.”
Re: Democratic Massachusetts Governor Healey's Administration to train police to inspect FFLs
4I don't see additional state inspections as an issue. And honestly, it might be nice to have police that are trained on the firearm purchase and sale process.
To be vintage it must be older than me!
The next gun I buy will be the next to last gun I ever buy. PROMISE!
jim
The next gun I buy will be the next to last gun I ever buy. PROMISE!
jim
Re: Democratic Massachusetts Governor Healey's Administration to train police to inspect FFLs
5ATF inspections are not enough according politicians, like Healey, who are in favor of every conceivable obstacle to selling firearms they can come up with and the ATF itself. Color me surprised.F4FEver wrote: Thu Mar 16, 2023 8:20 amMaybe because ATF inspections aren't enough.DispositionMatrix wrote: Fri Feb 17, 2023 1:28 pm Because ATF inspections are not enough.
Healey administration begins training police in how to inspect gun dealers amid concern laws aren’t being enforcedHistorically, most FFLs are inspected every 3–5 years, with the ATF prohibited by law from inspecting a firearms business more than once every 12 months (except in limited circumstances).PlusAs a federal firearms licensee, you're bound to get audited by the ATF at some point. The Gun Control Act permits inspections that are at least twelve months apart, but truthfully, they only happen every few years. The goal of the audit is more benign than most expect.The deputy director of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives broke with the White House on Wednesday over the administration’s 2020 budget proposal, saying it would further hollow out an agency already straining for resources.
Thomas Brandon told lawmakers on Capitol Hill that under Trump’s latest budget proposal, his agency would lose 377 positions to attrition.
“You hear people say, ‘trim the fat.’ Then we trimmed into muscle and now we’re trimming into bone,” Mr. Brandon testified to a House Appropriations subcommittee. “ATF won’t be able to do what it can do today.”
Who cares about the 2020 budget proposal? It is 2023, and thankfully Trump is not the president. The ATF has been revoking more licenses than it has in decades under the Biden Administration and is running amok with issuing diktats redefining terms to make law. They are doing just fine. It is no secret the ATF is an extremely corrupt organization, though, so I would be cool with their budget being constrained.
Re: Democratic Massachusetts Governor Healey's Administration to train police to inspect FFLs
6In my dealings with ATF over the decades I have never found them to be anything less than honest, helpful, polite and willing to research issues when they don't have an immediate answer. I've never seen any evidence that ATF is a corrupt organization.
To be vintage it must be older than me!
The next gun I buy will be the next to last gun I ever buy. PROMISE!
jim
The next gun I buy will be the next to last gun I ever buy. PROMISE!
jim
Re: Democratic Massachusetts Governor Healey's Administration to train police to inspect FFLs
7I'm not sure the state has the authority legally to do anything with a federal licensee.
“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing,”
Re: Democratic Massachusetts Governor Healey's Administration to train police to inspect FFLs
8Healey and the Boston Globe have agendas and it's not pro 2A.In 1998, the Legislature made local police the front line in enforcing state gun laws, as part of sweeping raft of gun control reforms that included a requirement for annual inspections at gun shops.
"Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but not their own facts." - Daniel Patrick Moynihan
Re: Democratic Massachusetts Governor Healey's Administration to train police to inspect FFLs
9So selling illegal firearms is a obstacle?AdministrativeReload wrote: Thu Mar 16, 2023 10:15 amATF inspections are not enough according politicians, like Healey, who are in favor of every conceivable obstacle to selling firearms they can come up with and the ATF itself. Color me surprised.F4FEver wrote: Thu Mar 16, 2023 8:20 amMaybe because ATF inspections aren't enough.DispositionMatrix wrote: Fri Feb 17, 2023 1:28 pm Because ATF inspections are not enough.
Healey administration begins training police in how to inspect gun dealers amid concern laws aren’t being enforcedHistorically, most FFLs are inspected every 3–5 years, with the ATF prohibited by law from inspecting a firearms business more than once every 12 months (except in limited circumstances).PlusAs a federal firearms licensee, you're bound to get audited by the ATF at some point. The Gun Control Act permits inspections that are at least twelve months apart, but truthfully, they only happen every few years. The goal of the audit is more benign than most expect.The deputy director of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives broke with the White House on Wednesday over the administration’s 2020 budget proposal, saying it would further hollow out an agency already straining for resources.
Thomas Brandon told lawmakers on Capitol Hill that under Trump’s latest budget proposal, his agency would lose 377 positions to attrition.
“You hear people say, ‘trim the fat.’ Then we trimmed into muscle and now we’re trimming into bone,” Mr. Brandon testified to a House Appropriations subcommittee. “ATF won’t be able to do what it can do today.”
Who cares about the 2020 budget proposal? It is 2023, and thankfully Trump is not the president. The ATF has been revoking more licenses than it has in decades under the Biden Administration and is running amok with issuing diktats redefining terms to make law. They are doing just fine. It is no secret the ATF is an extremely corrupt organization, though, so I would be cool with their budget being constrained.
The top 3 reasons a FFL is revoked.
1.) transferring a firearm to a prohibited person
2.) failing to run a required background check
3.) falsifying records, such as a firearms transaction form