Democratic Tennessee state legislators' bills to ban semi-auto rifles, std-cap mags, govt-free pvt sales, const. carry

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HB2195 Ban on possession of what Democrats refer to as "assault weapons" acquired after 6/30/2024. Requires registration of "assault weapons" possessed prior to 7/1/2024.
https://legiscan.com/TN/text/HB2195/id/ ... -Draft.pdf
SB2189
https://legiscan.com/TN/text/SB2189/id/ ... -Draft.pdf


HB1579 Ban on purchase and sale of what Democrats refer to as "assault weapons."
https://legiscan.com/TN/text/HB1579/id/ ... -Draft.pdf
SB1569
https://legiscan.com/TN/text/SB1569/id/ ... -Draft.pdf


HB1935 Ban on purchase or sale of any semiautomatic firearm the state has defined as a "weapon of war," based on features.
https://legiscan.com/TN/text/HB1935/id/ ... -Draft.pdf
SB2290
https://legiscan.com/TN/text/SB2290/id/ ... -Draft.pdf


HB1589 Ban on possession of standard-capacity magazines.
https://legiscan.com/TN/text/HB1589/id/ ... -Draft.pdf
SB2954
https://legiscan.com/TN/text/SB2954/id/ ... -Draft.pdf


HB1580 Ban on possession of standard-capacity magazines.
https://legiscan.com/TN/text/HB1580/id/ ... -Draft.pdf
SB1570
https://legiscan.com/TN/text/SB1570/id/ ... -Draft.pdf


HB1593 Ban on private sales of firearms without conducting NICS checks.
https://legiscan.com/TN/text/HB1593/id/ ... -Draft.pdf
HB2958
https://legiscan.com/TN/text/SB2958/id/ ... -Draft.pdf


HB2329 Ban on constitutional carry.
https://legiscan.com/TN/text/HB2329/id/ ... -Draft.pdf
SB2449
https://legiscan.com/TN/text/SB2449/id/ ... -Draft.pdf


But wait; there's more:

HB2336 Ban on 80% lowers since they are unserialized.
https://legiscan.com/TN/text/HB2336/id/ ... -Draft.pdf
SB2456
https://legiscan.com/TN/text/SB2456/id/ ... -Draft.pdf


HB1587 Ban on manufacturing semi-automatic rifles.
https://legiscan.com/TN/text/HB1587/id/ ... -Draft.pdf
SB2952
https://legiscan.com/TN/text/SB2952/id/ ... -Draft.pdf


HB1952 Criminalizes failure to report stolen firearm within 24 hours.
https://legiscan.com/TN/text/HB1952/id/ ... -Draft.pdf
SB2957
https://legiscan.com/TN/text/SB2957/id/ ... -Draft.pdf


All seem unlikely to pass, but it does show where Democrats stand on these issues.

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DispositionMatrix wrote: Mon Feb 26, 2024 4:28 pm All seem unlikely to pass, but it does show where Democrats stand on these issues.
Seems the Democrats seek to disarm America or make owning a firearm so expensive and convoluted that most folks will just give up. If Biden wins and we get enough Democrats in the house and senate we'll likely see federal version of this kind of thing. Anyway, I do believe we are witnesses to the end of gun possession in America. It's what happens after we are disarmed that scares me.

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Tyrants disarm the people they intend to oppress.

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VodoundaVinci wrote: Mon Feb 26, 2024 7:08 pm
DispositionMatrix wrote: Mon Feb 26, 2024 4:28 pm All seem unlikely to pass, but it does show where Democrats stand on these issues.
Seems the Democrats seek to disarm America or make owning a firearm so expensive and convoluted that most folks will just give up. If Biden wins and we get enough Democrats in the house and senate we'll likely see federal version of this kind of thing. Anyway, I do believe we are witnesses to the end of gun possession in America. It's what happens after we are disarmed that scares me.

VooDoo
Don’t vote for the asshole. There’s no way biden wins if he doesn’t get all left and left leaning likely dem voters. They’ve been taking our vote for granted.
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Those Democratic Tennessee legislators are playing to their supporters in the Democratic cities of Memphis and Nashville and even Knoxville. Republicans control the TN legislature, not Democrats. The TN Senate has 27 Republicans and 6 Democrats and the TN House has 75 Republicans and 24 Democrats. Politicians pander to their base.
"Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but not their own facts." - Daniel Patrick Moynihan

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highdesert wrote: Mon Feb 26, 2024 7:27 pm Those Democratic Tennessee legislators are playing to their supporters in the Democratic cities of Memphis and Nashville and even Knoxville. Republicans control the TN legislature, not Democrats. The TN Senate has 27 Republicans and 6 Democrats and the TN House has 75 Republicans and 24 Democrats. Politicians pander to their base.
Yes, but it’s a clear message where dems place their priorities. Given national control instead of state they will pursue the exact same agenda.
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We've been down this path before and honestly it's not as rugged or difficult as many folk suggest.
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A ban on magazine capacity or on particular types of firearms regardless of how common or popular they might be is not disarming the population.

We went through the restrictions of what handguns could be imported into the US with little discomfort and no serious harm. We have lived with restrictions on firearm rate of fire and size limitations for almost a century now,

The sky is NOT falling.
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sig230 wrote: Tue Feb 27, 2024 9:44 am We've been down this path before and honestly it's not as rugged or difficult as many folk suggest.

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A ban on magazine capacity or on particular types of firearms regardless of how common or popular they might be is not disarming the population.

We went through the restrictions of what handguns could be imported into the US with little discomfort and no serious harm. We have lived with restrictions on firearm rate of fire and size limitations for almost a century now,

The sky is NOT falling.
It's true. Erosion of rights is no big deal. Just ask the folk at the back of the bus. I mean, they're still on the bus, right? And what mother of 4 working two jobs wouldn't want to take a quick vacation to a neighboring state to get an abortion? I mean, she can still get one... And the vote? Hell, half the people don't vote anyway. [/Dripping sarcasm]

Erosion of one right is erosion of all rights. All rights for all people, I say.

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featureless wrote: Tue Feb 27, 2024 10:28 am
sig230 wrote: Tue Feb 27, 2024 9:44 am We've been down this path before and honestly it's not as rugged or difficult as many folk suggest.

restricted-mag.jpg

A ban on magazine capacity or on particular types of firearms regardless of how common or popular they might be is not disarming the population.

We went through the restrictions of what handguns could be imported into the US with little discomfort and no serious harm. We have lived with restrictions on firearm rate of fire and size limitations for almost a century now,

The sky is NOT falling.
It's true. Erosion of rights is no big deal. Just ask the folk at the back of the bus. I mean, they're still on the bus, right? And what mother of 4 working two jobs wouldn't want to take a quick vacation to a neighboring state to get an abortion? I mean, she can still get one... And the vote? Hell, half the people don't vote anyway. [/Dripping sarcasm]

Erosion of one right is erosion of all rights. All rights for all people, I say.
Agree. People who don’t seem to care about erosion of rights have likely never experienced infringement on a personal level. They’ve likely never been put in their “place”. Your sarcasm hit the mark.
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jc57 wrote: Tue Feb 27, 2024 11:35 am Tennessee? I would not worry about any of those bills passing. All just political theatre.
It sends a national message though and reinforces the idea dems have a priority to push gun bans and regulations. Considering how small the percentages are, this is misguided political grandstanding. However, it clearly shows if dems have control on the national level one can expect the same except as potential federal law. This is not a good approach and as a gun forum people should recognize this and demand meaningful legislation that addresses more critical issues.
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I don't see how any of the gun legislation erodes any right or could be compared to the examples you mention except in a Chicken Little scenario.

As I pointed out, no right is without limitations and restrictions.

Limiting one right does not in anyway limit or restrict some other right.
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The Tennessee State Legislature is not an indication of how the rest of the nation operates. Not everything is an example of some grand national agenda. The representatives of the people sometimes actually do represent the desires of the people who elected them. This is much more likely to be true at the state level. There is not as much corporate money sloshing around.

I am quite aware of the issues on the ground here in Tennessee, and why those kinds of bills would be introduced at all.

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jc57 wrote: Tue Feb 27, 2024 1:45 pm The Tennessee State Legislature is not an indication of how the rest of the nation operates. Not everything is an example of some grand national agenda. The representatives of the people sometimes actually do represent the desires of the people who elected them. This is much more likely to be true at the state level. There is not as much corporate money sloshing around.

I am quite aware of the issues on the ground here in Tennessee, and why those kinds of bills would be introduced at all.
It’s cumulative, the dems are doing similar in many states which establishes pattern. So we will just have to disagree.
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sig230 wrote: Tue Feb 27, 2024 12:00 pm I don't see how any of the gun legislation erodes any right or could be compared to the examples you mention except in a Chicken Little scenario.

As I pointed out, no right is without limitations and restrictions.

Limiting one right does not in anyway limit or restrict some other right.
Agree. However, SCOTUS has already ruled these types of hardware bans unconstitutional (in common use for lawful purpose is crystal fucking clear except, apparently, to Dems and their attorneys). Therefore, why the push to pass what are very clearly unconstitutional laws? That is my point. We can lie all we like that Heller, McDonald and Bruen don't say what they say, and the Dem party is doing just that. So while the nature may be different than the examples I provided tongue in cheek, the egregious and dishonest nature is the same. It is not about reasonable restrictions on rights.

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featureless wrote: Tue Feb 27, 2024 2:41 pm
sig230 wrote: Tue Feb 27, 2024 12:00 pm I don't see how any of the gun legislation erodes any right or could be compared to the examples you mention except in a Chicken Little scenario.

As I pointed out, no right is without limitations and restrictions.

Limiting one right does not in anyway limit or restrict some other right.
Agree. However, SCOTUS has already ruled these types of hardware bans unconstitutional (in common use for lawful purpose is crystal fucking clear except, apparently, to Dems and their attorneys). Therefore, why the push to pass what are very clearly unconstitutional laws? That is my point. We can lie all we like that Heller, McDonald and Bruen don't say what they say, and the Dem party is doing just that. So while the nature may be different than the examples I provided tongue in cheek, the egregious and dishonest nature is the same. It is not about reasonable restrictions on rights.
Yup. IMHO a stupid move but fits in with the current near universal concept of 'nullification'. More and more each day our courts and legislatures are mirroring the average American who loves and lives the Rule of Law so long as the Law doesn't inconvenience him or keep him from doing what he wants.
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sig230 wrote: Tue Feb 27, 2024 3:02 pm
featureless wrote: Tue Feb 27, 2024 2:41 pm
sig230 wrote: Tue Feb 27, 2024 12:00 pm I don't see how any of the gun legislation erodes any right or could be compared to the examples you mention except in a Chicken Little scenario.

As I pointed out, no right is without limitations and restrictions.

Limiting one right does not in anyway limit or restrict some other right.
Agree. However, SCOTUS has already ruled these types of hardware bans unconstitutional (in common use for lawful purpose is crystal fucking clear except, apparently, to Dems and their attorneys). Therefore, why the push to pass what are very clearly unconstitutional laws? That is my point. We can lie all we like that Heller, McDonald and Bruen don't say what they say, and the Dem party is doing just that. So while the nature may be different than the examples I provided tongue in cheek, the egregious and dishonest nature is the same. It is not about reasonable restrictions on rights.
Yup. IMHO a stupid move but fits in with the current near universal concept of 'nullification'. More and more each day our courts and legislatures are mirroring the average American who loves and lives the Rule of Law so long as the Law doesn't inconvenience him or keep him from doing what he wants.
Which pretty quickly leads to might makes right. And, incidentally, why I insist the 2A remains intact.

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