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#26 Post by senorgrand » Wed Aug 28, 2019 10:49 pm

Well, I agree that the Left is no longer Liberal, but not because of what David Rubin says, but rather because Clinton moved the party to where the Republicans used to be, while Trump moved the Republicans to where Mussolini was.

"Libertarian" does not equal "liberal" anymore than "dog" equals "torque wrench".
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#27 Post by K9s » Thu Aug 29, 2019 12:03 am

Yeah, not a fan of Rubin or his YouTube guests. I have limited time on Earth, so I don't waste a lot of time with Rubin, or Candace Owens & Ben Shapiro. Seems like a few new members have a different understanding of libertarian than I do. I guess I am old fashioned.
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#28 Post by VoidNail » Thu Aug 29, 2019 2:33 am

senorgrand wrote:
Wed Aug 28, 2019 10:49 pm
Well, I agree that the Left is no longer Liberal, but not because of what David Rubin says, but rather because Clinton moved the party to where the Republicans used to be, while Trump moved the Republicans to where Mussolini was.

"Libertarian" does not equal "liberal" anymore than "dog" equals "torque wrench".
as stated, Rubin does a decent enough job of explaining the situation, but I dont agree on many of his positions on things.

I wanted to also add that I do understand that the general trend is that things are shifting rightwards for a long time. its just that more recently, the polarization has become more and more apparent with the "mainstream".

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#29 Post by YankeeTarheel » Thu Aug 29, 2019 4:10 pm

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Wed Aug 28, 2019 10:11 pm
That’s about the most foolish bullshit I’ve heard in a while. There may be some ideas there that don’t suck, but prying them loose from that pile of ahistorical fantasy and misunderstanding of political meanings would be difficult to say the least.

To say that Trump’s win was a rejection of identity politics is to abet the very view that whiteness is the default for humanity. You wanna fall for the silly word games of the alt white; declaring that mentioning race is racist and that objecting to Nazi mobs is an affront to free speech, be my guest. At least have the decency to go so far as to read a history book or two, so as to be able to use terms like “left” “liberal” “classical liberal” “right” and “identity politics” in a way that aligns with what those words actually mean rather than how they are used by people who think Barack Obama is a Socialist.
I don't it's foolish bullshit, Marlene, I think it's deliberate DANGEROUS bullshit!
He repeatedly claims to be a "liberal" because he's for legalized marijuana and gay marriage, but fills his video with reactionary buzzwords that NO liberal or Progressive ever used that I have heard.
He is no Liberal and his descriptions of Liberals based on a few fanatics are total garbage--reactionary boogieman-ism.

In fact, he sounds to ME like a reactionaries who call themselves "Libertarians" (think Rand Paul and Paul Ryan). Calling himself a "liberal" tags him as a 5th Columnist seeking to infiltrate and invalidate the Left. I've been a Progressive all my life and while I've seen SOME who are dogmatic and closed-minded, most would write them off as obnoxious pricks.

Other than his multiple claims of being a liberal, this could just as easily have been a screed by Sean Hannity or Ann Coulter-geist.
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#30 Post by K9s » Thu Aug 29, 2019 4:47 pm

YankeeTarheel wrote:
Thu Aug 29, 2019 4:10 pm
Other than his multiple claims of being a liberal, this could just as easily have been a screed by Sean Hannity or Ann Coulter-geist.
That is my general impression of Rubin and his friends. Antebellum reasoning.
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#31 Post by geno » Thu Aug 29, 2019 5:46 pm

I might go to u-tube to find out how to fix something, or maybe a dog driving a car; but not for political or social insight.
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#32 Post by K9s » Thu Aug 29, 2019 5:51 pm

Dog videos and some gun videos are why YouTube exists.
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#33 Post by senorgrand » Thu Aug 29, 2019 6:26 pm

Wait! Wait!!! There's a dog that can drive a car? Now that's news I can use!
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#34 Post by K9s » Thu Aug 29, 2019 6:28 pm

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#35 Post by lurker » Thu Aug 29, 2019 6:44 pm

if thread creep is so common, is there a creep for every thread?
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#36 Post by Bucolic » Thu Aug 29, 2019 6:55 pm

No video; truth.

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#37 Post by lurker » Mon Sep 02, 2019 8:50 pm

oops wrong thread
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#38 Post by K9s » Mon Sep 02, 2019 9:29 pm

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#39 Post by YankeeTarheel » Mon Sep 02, 2019 10:58 pm

'cuz wolves is kuul!
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#40 Post by lurker » Mon Sep 02, 2019 11:04 pm

because in some places being a wolf is still viable. try being a chihuahua in the canadian rockies and let us know how it works out.
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#41 Post by Hailey644 » Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:19 am

Hello Everyone and Welcome.

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#42 Post by lurker » Thu Sep 12, 2019 9:51 am

:sarcasm: hello, hailey, why don't you start your own thread and tell us about yourself and what you shoot?
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