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sure are a lot of spammers

#1 Post by lurker » Mon Dec 03, 2018 11:19 am

creating accounts lately. this last one sells boxing gloves and padding in germany. do the mods prune them out, or are they left there until they cause trouble?
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#2 Post by shinzen » Mon Dec 03, 2018 11:45 am

Bastards trying to use us for black hat SEO. We try to go in an prune them periodically but there seems to be a glut of those garage door people recently.
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#3 Post by lurker » Mon Dec 03, 2018 5:31 pm

garage doors are so last week. yesterday, it was aviator-inspired watches. again, in germany.
"black hat SEO". interesting. i begin to think the internet is too easy or too cheap or something.
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#4 Post by Inquisitor » Mon Dec 03, 2018 5:49 pm

They come in waves

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#5 Post by lurker » Mon Dec 03, 2018 6:10 pm

Inquisitor wrote:
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They come in waves
i've noticed. i wonder why?
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#6 Post by shinzen » Mon Dec 03, 2018 8:29 pm

Owner signs up for "reputable" company to help them get onto the first page of google results. "Reputable" company helps with this by getting backlinks to sites that have a long time reputation like ours so that it helps them move their customer up.

Most of them get nuked, they bank on one or two staying and google not catching that they are spamming.

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#7 Post by AndyH » Tue Dec 04, 2018 12:51 am

The spammers use known weaknesses in websites, and they share their notes. My last business was web-based sales of custom and prototype parts and it quickly got to where it was a full time job keeping up with patches and rooting out malware just to keep from getting too far behind. One never gets ahead, especially when scripts exist that exploit multiple minor bugs. https://www.cvedetails.com/vulnerabilit ... Phpbb.html

The attacks we see (new user account spam) is easy to stop by shutting down automatic account activation...but that puts more load on the staff. (Who approves members when things are locked down - admins or mods?)
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#8 Post by lurker » Tue Dec 11, 2018 3:50 pm

really? escort services in kolkata (formerly calcutta), east bengal?
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#9 Post by YankeeTarheel » Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:20 pm

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really? escort services in kolkata (formerly calcutta), east bengal?
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#10 Post by spara » Tue Dec 11, 2018 5:43 pm

Thank you admins for cleaning up the mess spammers left behind and your constant vigilance.

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#11 Post by sikacz » Wed Dec 12, 2018 7:13 am

Is this becoming a daily thing?
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#12 Post by lurker » Wed Dec 12, 2018 7:41 am

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Is this becoming a daily thing?
at least two of them last night and a couple of new members worth looking into. i think we need a sentience check at the gate to weed out the bots. something simple like "how much is two plus four?"
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#13 Post by lurker » Wed Dec 12, 2018 8:04 am

and another new member, avawatson who provides homework for slacking plagarists. check their websites and sig lines.
i also notice that one of my e-mail accounts has gone from 10 spam emails a day to 30, then to 90 a day all in the last week.
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#14 Post by sikacz » Thu Dec 13, 2018 8:06 am

More this morning. What’s the solution?
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#15 Post by lurker » Thu Dec 13, 2018 10:09 am

[sarcasm]hunt them down and murder them in their sleep. torture them until they beg for death. [/sarcasm]

i don't know. there are people here far more qualified to answer that than i. i do think it might be useful to sort them by type, because the bots can be screened out at the door, at least until their AI improves. anything else requires a person at the switch, which costs someone something, time and/or money. i notice this last new assignment/plagarism guy claimed to be an australian marketing director, which would be refreshing in its candor. maybe a polite e-mail asking him to desist?

ultimately, there seems to be no penalty, no cost associated with spamming. someone pays someone else to spam, maybe 1 of 1000 actually generates some revenue, and apparently that's enough, win-win for the spammers, lose-lose for the rest of us. interesting problem.
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#16 Post by sikacz » Thu Dec 13, 2018 10:41 am

SPAM could be a new information war tactic. Going off the deep end here, but that is what I would do if I was in charge of some countries electronic warfare section. Idea is to force the enemy to increase restrictions and decrease access to information and hinder the flow. I think there are state actors behind things like this.
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#17 Post by lurker » Thu Dec 13, 2018 11:15 am

agree, the sheer volume of it makes it harder to tell what is chaff and what is useful information. and if we choose not to ignore it, we have to invest resources in countermeasures.
aha. warrior forum. a nest of them, and a throng of wannabes. SEO, backlinks the whole deal. "marketing".
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Re: sure are a lot of spammers

#18 Post by Eris » Thu Dec 13, 2018 11:49 am

One thing I did on a phpBB forum that I admined for a while was I added a custom question on the account registration page. We could do something similar here. Something like

"The Constitution guarantees the right to keep and bear what?"

A real person will know to answer "arms" but a generic spam bot won't get it. People could still target this site explicitly, but most spammers are looking for an easy time and don't go coding hacks in their spam bots just for particular forums.
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#19 Post by shinzen » Thu Dec 13, 2018 11:53 am

I did enable a question first thing this morning after seeing the flood of spam, we'll see if it has any impact or not.
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#20 Post by lurker » Thu Dec 13, 2018 11:59 am

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I did enable a question firs thing this morning after seeing the flood of spam, we'll see if it has any impact or not.
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#21 Post by shinzen » Thu Dec 13, 2018 12:06 pm

Also, I like your question better Eris, so changed it to that.
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#22 Post by Eris » Thu Dec 13, 2018 12:42 pm

shinzen wrote:
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Also, I like your question better Eris, so changed it to that.
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#23 Post by Inquisitor » Thu Dec 13, 2018 1:46 pm

We lost some of the spam block plugins during the last forum upgrade, we need to replace those too...

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#24 Post by lurker » Sun Dec 16, 2018 9:27 am

ulcerative colitis. that's different. good one, b0bby.
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#25 Post by YankeeTarheel » Sun Dec 16, 2018 9:53 am

I think paranoia is a natural quality of members of this forum, so suspicion of new members who a) don't respond after their first post, or b) may be here to troll (our "friends" at the NY Gun forum (!) ) makes us nervous.

Before members who are long-time shooters jump in to give me shit, I would like to point out that many of us newer shooters, specifically like myself, became shooters BECAUSE of our justifiable paranoia. As I've said many times before: The morning after the shit-stain "won" his stolen election, unleashing every kind of bigot hatred, and accelerating hate crimes, we decided to become gun owners.

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