Howdy, LGC Members and Lurkers,
In my new member introduction, I mentioned that I did summer biathlons, and some folks wanted to know a little more about the sport. The short version is that the sport combines two disciplines. In the Winter Olympics it is cross country skiing and rifle shooting. A summer version exists (which is what I do) that is running and shooting. There are also mountain bike and snow shoe versions.
The rifle is a bolt action .22, and the targets are simple knockdown targets -- either you hit or miss. Each miss results in a penalty of either time added or the requirement to ski or run a penalty loop.
It is a tough sport, but a lot of fun to try to move fast, then bring your heart rate under control long enough to make five good shots from either the prone or standing position. I wrote a little blog post about it, with pictures of what a summer set up and what the targets look like. You can find it here:
http://fivekrunner.com/2015/09/22/races ... some-more/
I am in the Northeast, and most of the clubs have wound down their seasons, but the next season will likely start soon. The two clubs I have been at generally have some loaner rifles for beginners and welcome new people.
http://pemi.org/biathlon.html
And
http://www.harvardsportsmensclub.com/
My first biathlon was actually with a club out in Seattle. They seem to have some upcoming stuff in January.
http://www.wabiathlon.org/
Lake Placid, NY, Jericho, VT, and Salt Lake City, UT, also have biathlon ranges I believe.
Also, here is the link the US Biathlon site, which also has connections to where you can watch competitions on the Web: http://www.teamusa.org/US-Biathlon
I know other folks have made mention of biathlon from time to time. I'd love to hear about others' experiences and any races you know that are coming up. I still need to learn to ski, but I like to keep track of what is happening.
Happy to share what knowledge I have as well.
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3That looks so fun!! I can't ski or run anymore, but I can watch, and I always watch it on the winter olympics (if they bother t show it). Never knew there was a summer version.
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5That is so far beyond my running or shooting abilities that I can barely stand it but that looks like loads of fun. What a cool sport. Do they have intro-ones that are shorter distance/larger targets for people just to get a feel for it?
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6For a much younger healthier version of me, but man that looks like fun. And a real challenge
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7The guns are racked, doesn't the winter biathlon have the skiers carry them?
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8What is the size of the target (MOA)?
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9And hah, I was just at Harvard sportsmen on Saturday. Nice range.
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10For prone it's 4.5cm (1.78") at 50m, so about 3.5 MOA. That's challenging, I can barely make 4 MOA prone in the best conditions, without an elevated heart rate. Standing up the target is 11.5cm (4.5") at 50m, about 9 MOA. No cake walk. This is definitely an olympic-grade sport.Buck13 wrote:What is the size of the target (MOA)?
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11What is MOA?
Also, for the folks wondering if they could do it, at the local matches, there is usually an adaptive class. So we have had walkers, a wheelchair class, and people with prosthetics compete. It's a lot tougher for people who have to propel themselves with their arms and then use those arms to aim and shoot, but they always seem to have a good time. If you have an interest and are close, come check one out. If you don't want to do the race, then you can always help with score keeping, educating new shooters, etc.
The winter biathletes do carry the rifles on their back. Since running would cause them to bounce around more than skiing, for summer biathlon I think it is generally considered safer to leave them racked, or stage them at the shooting mat for beginners.
Also, for the folks wondering if they could do it, at the local matches, there is usually an adaptive class. So we have had walkers, a wheelchair class, and people with prosthetics compete. It's a lot tougher for people who have to propel themselves with their arms and then use those arms to aim and shoot, but they always seem to have a good time. If you have an interest and are close, come check one out. If you don't want to do the race, then you can always help with score keeping, educating new shooters, etc.
The winter biathletes do carry the rifles on their back. Since running would cause them to bounce around more than skiing, for summer biathlon I think it is generally considered safer to leave them racked, or stage them at the shooting mat for beginners.
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12MOA is minute of angle, it's the language for adjustment of all scopes and many custom iron sights.
http://nssf.org/video/facts/MOA.cfm
A mass produced rifle firing mass produced ammo is expected to shoot 2 MOA, so the size of the bullet holes group should be less than 1" at 50m, if the rifle is put on a vise. A competent shooter should add no more than 2 MOA to that while prone, to a total of 4 MOA, or less than 2" at 50m.
With match grade rifle and match grade ammo, the platform should be capable of less than 1 MOA, giving the average shooter the ability to shoot 3 MOA, or less than 1.5" at 50m. As you can see the biathlon target doesn't leave much room for error, just a quarter of an inch leeway, and that's probably for the elevated heart rate.
http://nssf.org/video/facts/MOA.cfm
A mass produced rifle firing mass produced ammo is expected to shoot 2 MOA, so the size of the bullet holes group should be less than 1" at 50m, if the rifle is put on a vise. A competent shooter should add no more than 2 MOA to that while prone, to a total of 4 MOA, or less than 2" at 50m.
With match grade rifle and match grade ammo, the platform should be capable of less than 1 MOA, giving the average shooter the ability to shoot 3 MOA, or less than 1.5" at 50m. As you can see the biathlon target doesn't leave much room for error, just a quarter of an inch leeway, and that's probably for the elevated heart rate.
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13One of my wifes students a couple years ago parents were both olympic class biathaletes. Met the parents at a school function and I geeked out asking all sorts of questions about the rifles. Wife told me to leave them alone. There are quite a few living in the area we are from what I was told.
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14Ouch. With iron sights, I would certainly not hit a lot of those. Even if I hadn't just been living life on the anaerobic threshold...Stiff wrote:For prone it's 4.5cm (1.78") at 50m, so about 3.5 MOA. That's challenging, I can barely make 4 MOA prone in the best conditions, without an elevated heart rate. Standing up the target is 11.5cm (4.5") at 50m, about 9 MOA. No cake walk. This is definitely an olympic-grade sport.Buck13 wrote:What is the size of the target (MOA)?
IMR4227: Zero to 900 in 0.001 seconds
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16If you'd like to see some biathlon, you can watch it online here:
http://www.eurovisionsports.tv/ibu/
There are some videos on the sport and some videos of competitions.
http://www.eurovisionsports.tv/ibu/
There are some videos on the sport and some videos of competitions.
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17I just got some dates for biathlons in the Northeast from the organizer at Pemi:
Get excited: dates have been set for 2017 Pemi Biathlon races!
Jan 28
Feb 4
March 4
May 20
June 17
Aug 5
Sept 30
Oct 21
Events may be cancelled due to weather, so please be in touch if you have any questions before driving over. If you anticipate bringing a group of 5 or more participants that need to use club rifles and ammo, please be in touch before the race so that we can prepare.
More information can be found at http://pemi.org/biathlon.html but note that as of this email, the page has not been updated for 2017. Please feel welcome to download and complete forms beforehand and bring them along, but please do not send them, or payment, in the mail. We also have blank forms available at the events that you can fill out here.
For those interested, the Harvard Biathlon Club has been offering some exciting races. Their next events will occur on Jan 22, Feb 26, and March 26. https://www.facebook.com/HSCBiathlon
The Jackson Biathlon Club is offering a Wednesday race series: Jan. 4 (Training Day: included in series), 11, 18, 25. Feb: 1,8,15,22. March 1,8.
and a Sunday race series: Jan 15, 29. Feb 12, 26. March 12.
They also have programs for juniors and youth. Please contact Wayne at jxbiathlon@gmail.com
Finally, a few regional and national events:
Jan. 12, 19, 26 and Feb. 9, 16, 23. Ethan Allen Biathlon Thursday Night Series: Jericho, VT
February 11-12, 2017 NORAM #4 Ethan Allen Biathlon, Jericho, VT
February 18-19, 2017 NORAM #5 Lake Placid, NY
March 24-26, 2017 US Nationals, Jericho, VT
Ski fast, shoot straight!
Scott B
Get excited: dates have been set for 2017 Pemi Biathlon races!
Jan 28
Feb 4
March 4
May 20
June 17
Aug 5
Sept 30
Oct 21
Events may be cancelled due to weather, so please be in touch if you have any questions before driving over. If you anticipate bringing a group of 5 or more participants that need to use club rifles and ammo, please be in touch before the race so that we can prepare.
More information can be found at http://pemi.org/biathlon.html but note that as of this email, the page has not been updated for 2017. Please feel welcome to download and complete forms beforehand and bring them along, but please do not send them, or payment, in the mail. We also have blank forms available at the events that you can fill out here.
For those interested, the Harvard Biathlon Club has been offering some exciting races. Their next events will occur on Jan 22, Feb 26, and March 26. https://www.facebook.com/HSCBiathlon
The Jackson Biathlon Club is offering a Wednesday race series: Jan. 4 (Training Day: included in series), 11, 18, 25. Feb: 1,8,15,22. March 1,8.
and a Sunday race series: Jan 15, 29. Feb 12, 26. March 12.
They also have programs for juniors and youth. Please contact Wayne at jxbiathlon@gmail.com
Finally, a few regional and national events:
Jan. 12, 19, 26 and Feb. 9, 16, 23. Ethan Allen Biathlon Thursday Night Series: Jericho, VT
February 11-12, 2017 NORAM #4 Ethan Allen Biathlon, Jericho, VT
February 18-19, 2017 NORAM #5 Lake Placid, NY
March 24-26, 2017 US Nationals, Jericho, VT
Ski fast, shoot straight!
Scott B